Hardware After my laptop kept crashing I accidentally deleted the C: Drive with Windows from it

Deleted User · Sep 28, 2020

Hayato213 said:
You don't happen to have another computer you can pop the SSD into and check? My guess is that the SSD isn't initialized, when you run diskpart and by list disk command you should see your drive if it not dead, can also check control panel-> administrative tool- computer management-> disk management.

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He meant that some computer come with a D: partition specially for recovery when someone messes up the C drive.

I'm not opening the laptop. I've had a bad experience. I fucked up some wires and couldn't even power it back on lol. Not going to risk I'd rather let a computer guy look at it.

But no there's no recovery at all showing it only shows C: which is the 1 TB regular HDD and D: which is Hiren usb and X which is where Hiren puts their recovery files I think.

Captain_N · Sep 28, 2020

JuanMena said:
If I'm not mistaken, missing partitions are normal?
I'm not sure, let me look it up.

I'm sure I've seen that same message when I open "Device Manager" in my laptop.

He probably deleted the original boot partition and the partition structure is messed up. If he can recover that it will be nice but, its totally not needed. The recovery partition does make it easier. there is a program called MiniTool Partition Wizard that has a partition recovery option.

I sure as hell would not trust that ssd unless you have a full backup of it. It could be ok, but if it was in my laptop if be suspicious of it. I'm guessing the SSD is a m.2

JuanMena · Sep 28, 2020

Captain_N said:
He probably deleted the original boot partition and the partition structure is messed up. If he can recover that it will be nice but, its totally not needed. The recovery partition does make it easier. there is a program called MiniTool Partition Wizard that has a partition recovery option.

I sure as hell would not trust that ssd unless you have a full backup of it. It could be ok, but if it was in my laptop if be suspicious of it. I'm guessing the SSD is a m.2

But isn't that supposed to be the purpose of "D:RECOVERY"?

Just asking as he might've missed looking for that option before attempting all he has done up-till now.

Deleted User · Sep 28, 2020

Captain_N said:
He probably deleted the original boot partition and the partition structure is messed up. If he can recover that it will be nice but, its totally not needed. The recovery partition does make it easier. there is a program called MiniTool Partition Wizard that has a partition recovery option.

I sure as hell would not trust that ssd unless you have a full backup of it. It could be ok, but if it was in my laptop if be suspicious of it. I'm guessing the SSD is a m.2

I have every important file backed up like games but there's always programs you have to reinstall directx files that I don't have so it's still annoying but not a disaster where I lose everything.

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JuanMena said:
But isn't that supposed to be the purpose of "D:RECOVERY"?

Just asking as he might've missed looking for that option before attempting all he has done up-till now.

It isn't there. D: was my internal 1 TB regular HDD. There's no recovery

Hayato213 · Sep 28, 2020

ForgotWhoIam said:
I'm not opening the laptop. I've had a bad experience. I fucked up some wires and couldn't even power it back on lol. Not going to risk I'd rather let a computer guy look at it.

But no there's no recovery at all showing it only shows C: which is the 1 TB regular HDD and D: which is Hiren usb and X which is where Hiren puts their recovery files I think.

You going have to get a bootable windows 10 usb and use diskpart to check the status of the SSD, it is either dead or not properly setup after you use the clean command from diskpart.

https://www.diskpart.com/diskpart/initialize-disk-4125.html

Deleted User · Sep 28, 2020

However there's a X: drive called Boot and it has a Windows folder. But it's definitely not the SSD. It's only 500 mb.

JuanMena · Sep 28, 2020

ForgotWhoIam said:
It isn't there. D: was my internal 1 TB regular HDD. There's no recovery

ForgotWhoIam said:
However there's a X: drive called Boot and it has a Windows folder. But it's definitely not the SSD. It's only 500 mb.

Again... I'm realizing just now how fuckingly outdated I am with these matters, the thing is that I've never had any problems in order to get the required info.
But, If I'm not mistaken "D:RECOVERY" is a partition on C: in case something like this happens.
Then, in theory you should be able to wipe out and make a completely clean reinstall of Windows using "D:RECOVERY" as it's supposed to have a copy of your Windows OS in it.

This is where I'm being stupid... but if what I said is correct, isn't that the purpose of having "D:RECOVERY" in the first place?
I mean, even if your C: drive gets corrupted, it should remain "D:RECOVERY" intact in order to reinstall your Operative System.

I just remembered about "D:RECOVERY" thanks to this old picture I posted long time ago asking how to make my notebook faster

D:Recovery is not a physical drive but a partition on C

RIVE that's supposed to save your computer in case something like this happens.

About the "X DRIVE" containing 500MB of data... it might as well contain a copy of Windows itself.
Like they're not super heavy in size.

Deleted User · Sep 28, 2020

JuanMena said:
Again... I'm realizing just now how fuckingly outdated I am with these matters, the thing is that I've never had any problems in order to get the required info.
But, If I'm not mistaken "D:RECOVERY" is a partition on C: in case something like this happens.
Then, in theory you should be able to wipe out and make a completely clean reinstall of Windows using "D:RECOVERY" as it's supposed to have a copy of your Windows OS in it.

This is where I'm being stupid... but if what I said is correct, isn't that the purpose of having "D:RECOVERY" in the first place?
I mean, even if your C: drive gets corrupted, it should remain "D:RECOVERY" intact in order to reinstall your Operative System.

I just remembered about "D:RECOVERY" thanks to this old picture I posted long time ago asking how to make my notebook faster

D:Recovery is not a physical drive but a partition on CRIVE that's supposed to save your computer in case something like this happens.

About the "X DRIVE" containing 500MB of data... it might as well contain a copy of Windows itself.
Like they're not super heavy in size.

I don't know what else to tell you man. If it's there I don't see it anywhere. I've looked through C: (which was D: ) I know exactly what you're referring to, but it's not anywhere to be found.

Captain_N · Sep 28, 2020

Can you see the partition structure using a tool on hirens boot cd? The picture posted above is similar to what you should see (if you did not delete the partitions). The 2 small partitions are boot partitions for windows recovery mode. The recovery partition contains a .win file used to restore factory settings.

JuanMena · Sep 28, 2020

Seems like we're more worried wondering about what happened exactly rather than solving the issue.
Just re-install Windows 10.

And here's where I might leave the thread as I think I'm getting confused and I'm cofusing you in the process.

But don't worry, Captain_N sure knows way, way more than me, and he'll be able to help you better than me.

Deleted User · Sep 28, 2020

Well I'm pretty much expecting I will have to reinstall WIndows 10 be it on the SSD or the other,.

The problem is I only see this mediacreationtool and I tried several times earlier but it errored when installing to my usb.

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Doesn't this point to the SSD NOT being dead though? This RAID Recovery says it's missing.

Captain_N · Sep 28, 2020

there is a program called rufus that can take a bootable iso of windows 10 and create a bootable usb flash drive. Microsoft's media creation tool is supposed to do that for you as well. To avoid all the problems with usb flash drive media i always prefer to use good old dvd-r and a usb dvd drive. It has never failed me before.

Edit. Oh i see there are 3 drives in raid 5 wtf. i thought it was a single ssd and 1tb hdd.

Deleted User · Sep 28, 2020

Captain_N said:
there is a program called rufus that can take a bootable iso of windows 10 and create a bootable usb flash drive. Microsoft's media creation tool is supposed to do that for you as well. To avoid all the problems with usb flash drive media i always prefer to use good old dvd-r and a usb dvd drive. It has never failed me before.

Already using rufus. My laptop doesn't have a disc drive. I don't own a usb dvd drive unfortunately.

What is your opinion about the pic above where it says drive is "missing" ?

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There's another error after that I should have taken a pic of "unable to mount "X:\files\files\files" The file system might not be readable.

Maybe X: is the SSD and I just didn't realize it. But the size is wrong.

Captain_N · Sep 28, 2020

ForgotWhoIam said:
Already using rufus. My laptop doesn't have a disc drive. I don't own a usb dvd drive unfortunately.

What is your opinion about the pic above where it says drive is "missing" ?

OK thats interesting. its saying you have 3 drives in raid5 array. ai thought there was only 1 ssd and 1 hdd. is there 3 physical ssds? the only reason there would be a raid5 array is to use multiple ssds to create a larger and redundent data storage. If one of the drives dies then the physical drive has to be replace and the raid rebuilt.

Deleted User · Sep 28, 2020

Captain_N said:
OK thats interesting. its saying you have 3 drives in raid5 array. ai thought there was only 1 ssd and 1 hdd. is there 3 physical ssds? the only reason there would be a raid5 array is to use multiple ssds to create a larger and redundent data storage. If one of the drives dies then the physical drive has to be replace and the raid rebuilt.

No there's only 2 internal. Could the 3rd be the usb that has Hiren?

I only have 1 256 GB SSD and 1 1 TB regular HDD for internal.

Captain_N · Sep 28, 2020

if there never was a raid then it shouldn't say there is a raid at all. I wonder if that laptop was setup to raid5 3 seperate partitions together rather then 3 physical drives. I dont really see the point of that. can you use a regular partition tool that is not a raid recovery tool and see if you can see the partitions on only the ssd?

The only other thing i can think of is the raid recovery tool falsely thinks the 3 drives you have the ssd,the hdd and the usb are supposed to be raided. that would be really odd tho.

Deleted User · Sep 28, 2020

Captain_N said:
if there never was a raid then it shouldn't say there is a raid at all. I wonder if that laptop was setup to raid5 3 seperate partitions together rather then 3 physical drives. I dont really see the point of that. can you use a regular partition tool that is not a raid recovery tool and see if you can see the partitions on only the ssd?

The only other thing i can think of is the raid recovery tool falsely thinks the 3 drives you have the ssd,the hdd and the usb are supposed to be raided. that would be really odd tho.

That's what I'm doing right now but it's been 2-3 hours and it's only 31%, so it won't be done until tomorrow. It's already 1130 pm here.

I dont know if it's working but it says it's found 571150 file system records.

Captain_N · Sep 28, 2020

it might take even longer if the drive is bad. I was googling raid5 array on a single disk and it is possible to do with software in windows. Its really a bad idea as the drive is going to be reading and writing to those partitions alot. so the only benefit would be if one partition became corrupt you could recover the entire array. But it does no protection if the drive fails.

I have never even thought about of raiding partitions on a single drive before. The drive1,2,3 must be the 3 partitions on the single drive that are combined into a raid5 array. That might be what you have here. Its really strange that the laptop manufacturer would do that. It seriously decreases the life of the ssd and it takes a huge performance hit.

If my theory about the 3 partitions on a single physical drive being in raid5 is correct, then the raid recovery should be able to rebuild the corrupt partition. The performance hit would also explain why its taking so long to rebuild the array. Its reading and writing to 3 places on the drive at a time.
Anyways its almost 1am here and i got to get some sleep. feel free to let me know what happens.

Deleted User · Sep 28, 2020

Thank you guys so much for the advice I finally got the media creation tool to work with a legit external hard drive (with a flash drive it kept erroring) and then it showed the SSD in the installation under custom as unallocated. I installed Windows and BAM it was back. I couldn't believe it. The sad thing is that makes me want to scream at myself is it's still doing the glitching with the mouse and blinking pages that it was doing in the first place if I had just lived with it none of this would have happened. Oh well, at least I reinstalled windows to my SSD.

tglaria · Sep 28, 2020

JuanMena said:
Actually... if I'm not mistaken, BIOS is the very first thing you should encounter when building a computer.
This BIOS would automatically detect any drive plugged into the Mother board and install any OS from CD from there.
At least that's how it used to be as far as I know.
Again, I once installed Windows 7 Ultimate via USB using BIOS.

If you want details about mother board and stuff like that I don't know.

But I'll tell you this, it was a 40GB Hard Drive and I had 1GB of RAM...

OK, so you were not using BIOS to format a drive, you used BIOS to configure whuch device to boot (CD in yoir case) and then used the booted device to format the internal drive.

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