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Racial police killings, still not an issue for juries in the US

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What a misleading, click-bait title, but I supposed it worked since we're all commenting.

George Floyd
Narrative: racial police killing
Reality: ~8 minute video shows George resisting arrest, very uncooperative. Says "I can't breathe" multiple times, long before the knee on his neck. Police managed to get him in the back of the car, but he went berserk, then leading to the infamous knee on the neck (the only part we were showed to begin with) Autopsy showed George had lethal amounts of fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system.

Breonna Taylor
Narrative: racial police killing
Reality: Based on the details and facts we know, sounds like a tragic accident. Meaning neither the boyfriend or the police wanted the outcome, but, it happened nonetheless. If you want to point the finger at the police, you have to point an equal one at the boyfriend then.

Bubba Wallace
Narrative: racial hatred, a "noose" designed to intimidate and threaten Bubba
Reality: The "noose", the garage door rope, had been in the garage since October 2019....Bubba has to later backpeddle

So, to get this straight, the three best and most recent examples of "racism" in the USA are THOSE? Reasonable human beings are supposed to buy that? Nope, I don't think so. Give us a real example if you want to make a real argument. Sure, each heart is different, I'm sure there are some racist and hateful hearts here no doubt, but widespread and systematically? Prove it with real examples.

BTW, if Black Lives Matter really do matter...why ~19,000,000 black abortions since 1973?
 
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I'm not retro actively assuming anything, I'm basing it off the FACT there was a warrant for his arrest based on dealing drugs, and the fact he opened fire on the police tends to back those facts up, but hey, who cares about facts when you can cry racism.
Your 'fact' (or FACT if you think all capitals holds more weight) was disputed earlier by me, and then again twice since you posted this.
It was also posted that he fired at home invaders, and since they didn't properly announce as the police, he was perfectly within his right to defend himself. It only backs up your wrong idea because you filter out the truth.

Oh, and I didn't really cry racism but a massive screw up of the police. I'm fairly sure that if similar stories happened with white victims, all those 'noooo, all lives matter' crowds would hold those up to illustrate that it can't be racism if the police is equally trigger happy amongst white folks. Right? :D

All lives matter crowd: *insert uneasy silence *
Me : yeah... I thought so. Rather than pretending that cops can't be murderers, you better listen to what happens to people that aren't you. It might save you from a police bullet one day. :glare:
 
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Your 'fact' (or FACT if you think all capitals holds more weight) was disputed earlier by me, and then again twice since you posted this.
It was also posted that he fired at home invaders, and since they didn't properly announce as the police, he was perfectly within his right to defend himself. It only backs up your wrong idea because you filter out the truth.

Oh, and I didn't really cry racism but a massive screw up of the police. I'm fairly sure that if similar stories happened with white victims, all those 'noooo, all lives matter' crowds would hold those up to illustrate that it can't be racism if the police is equally trigger happy amongst white folks. Right? :D

All lives matter crowd: *insert uneasy silence *
Me : yeah... I thought so. Rather than pretending that cops can't be murderers, you better listen to what happens to people that aren't you. It might save you from a police bullet one day. :glare:

What are you talking about, just say you hate white people and all cops are racist. Because that's worked for the last 4 years.
 

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What are you talking about, just say you hate white people and all cops are racist. Because that's worked for the last 4 years.
Trolling. They tried to rectify their behavior, you asserted, but why didnt you do the horrible thing I said you were doing - because you were doing it anyways - as a group.

You are stirring the pot.

You are destroying conversation.

You are eliminating nuance.

You are promoting hate speech.

No one in here cares, the moderator is with you.
 
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Reality: ~8 minute video shows George resisting arrest, very uncooperative. Says "I can't breathe" multiple times, long before the knee on his neck.

The police were happy with him not breathing and to continue they put their knee on his neck.
He should have been uncooperative as the police obviously didn't care if he was dying, if anyone other than police were doing that then you would shoot them and get a medal for saving someones life.

The police can't have it both ways, they can't say you shouldn't attack them while they sit back and listen to someone say they can't breath.

Reality: Based on the details and facts we know, sounds like a tragic accident. Meaning neither the boyfriend or the police wanted the outcome, but, it happened nonetheless. If you want to point the finger at the police, you have to point an equal one at the boyfriend then.

Equal? One shot fired defending property compared to ten shots fired into the property, police then tried to cover it up because they knew they were guilty.

I'm sure they didn't specifically want to kill her, the problem was they didn't seem to care if they did.

BTW, if Black Lives Matter really do matter...why ~19,000,000 black abortions since 1973?

The mothers life beats the life of an non viable collection of cells, the argument is unrelated to color.
 
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I wonder how much "truth" is present in the text of this image?
Taylor.jpg
 
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I wonder how much "truth" is present in the text of this image?

It's kinda irrelevant how much is true, none of it is relevant to whether police were culpable of causing her death.
She could have been selling drugs at the time, that crime doesn't have a death sentence.
If the police were so sure they had done the right thing they wouldn't have tried to cover it up.
 

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It's kinda irrelevant how much is true, none of it is relevant to whether police were culpable of causing her death.
She could have been selling drugs at the time, that crime doesn't have a death sentence.
If the police were so sure they had done the right thing they wouldn't have tried to cover it up.

The boyfriend was shooting at the police and they were both drug dealing scum. They got what they deserved.
 

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What a misleading, click-bait title, but I supposed it worked since we're all commenting.

George Floyd
Narrative: racial police killing
Reality: ~8 minute video shows George resisting arrest, very uncooperative. Says "I can't breathe" multiple times, long before the knee on his neck. Police managed to get him in the back of the car, but he went berserk, then leading to the infamous knee on the neck (the only part we were showed to begin with) Autopsy showed George had lethal amounts of fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system.

Breonna Taylor
Narrative: racial police killing
Reality: Based on the details and facts we know, sounds like a tragic accident. Meaning neither the boyfriend or the police wanted the outcome, but, it happened nonetheless. If you want to point the finger at the police, you have to point an equal one at the boyfriend then.

Bubba Wallace
Narrative: racial hatred, a "noose" designed to intimidate and threaten Bubba
Reality: The "noose", the garage door rope, had been in the garage since October 2019....Bubba has to later backpeddle

So, to get this straight, the three best and most recent examples of "racism" in the USA are THOSE? Reasonable human beings are supposed to buy that? Nope, I don't think so. Give us a real example if you want to make a real argument. Sure, each heart is different, I'm sure there are some racist and hateful hearts here no doubt, but widespread and systematically? Prove it with real examples.

BTW, if Black Lives Matter really do matter...why ~19,000,000 black abortions since 1973?
What are you talking about, just say you hate white people and all cops are racist. Because that's worked for the last 4 years.
Sorry. I can't explain myself any clearer than that. Perhaps try reading more slowly.
 
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They got what they deserved.

There will always be someone who disagrees with the things you do. I'm sure you've broken the law, one day someone will come for you and if you end up dead then well you'll have got what you deserved.

Lying on their reports, having body cams but no footage is available. Really suspect. Really really suspect.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/09/04/breonna-taylor-killing-one-police-officer-wore-body-cam-footage-shot/
"As we reported, local prosecutors tried to squeeze a plea deal out of Breonna's ex-boyfriend, telling him if he would say Breonna was dealing drugs they would cut him a sweet deal -- possibly probation instead of 10 years in prison. Cops have no evidence Breonna was involved in drugs and the family says it's a shocking case of trying to smear Breonna's name in order to protect the cops who killed her. The ex-boyfriend rejected the deal"

If it's unclear, the ex boyfriend was the person they were looking for. He wasn't there, her boyfriend was. The ex boyfriend has more integrity than the police or prosecuters who are desperate to blame the dead black woman.
 
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