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President Signs Executive Order Abolishing Critical Race Theory

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No offense, but if you can't really back up your claims with facts and figures, you really shouldn't be parading them around as facts, or at least make it clear that you believe such laws are that way in some states, though you recognize you can't readily backup those claims.

None taken. I can't say specifically why the sun is orange in color, but I know it's orange in color. I can't say specifically how a calculator adds numbers, but I know it can add numbers... Get my drift?
 
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None taken. I can't say specifically why the sun is orange in color, but I know it's orange in color. I can't say specifically how a calculator adds numbers, but I know it can add numbers... Get my drift?
Eh, I don't feel comfortable taking these thoughts as simple facts like I can recognize the sky is blue, just because someone I don't know on the internet is saying it is so. It is not as blatantly evident as that. And you're right, you don't have to backup or defend your points of view, but the more you do, the more credible your side of the argument looks.
 

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Eh, I don't feel comfortable taking these thoughts as simple facts like I can recognize the sky is blue, just because someone I don't know on the internet is saying it is so. It is not as blatantly evident as that. And you're right, you don't have to backup or defend your points of view, but the more you do, the more credible your side of the argument looks.

Some years ago there were stories in the local papers about other states that I didn't live in and how their absurd liability laws were leading to situations where criminals were making bank suing people if they got hurt in the process of a crime on that persons property. It was printed in paper newspapers and talked about a lot in my family. I was quite young, so the laws may have changed and there wasn't an Internet back then either. You can't find everything on the Internet either. I run into that problem often.

However, a 30 second search turned up these. They seem to give an general overview, but not per state laws.

https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nol...operty-owner-liable-trespassers-injuries.html
https://injury.findlaw.com/accident-injury-law/premises-liability-who-is-responsible.html

I still have family that might remember the various lawsuits taking place back in the day. If I remember the next time I'm at a gathering I'll ask around.
 
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Some years ago there were stories in the local papers about other states that I didn't live in and how their absurd liability laws were leading to situations where criminals were making bank suing people if they got hurt in the process of a crime on that persons property. It was printed in paper newspapers and talked about a lot in my family. I was quite young, so the laws may have changed and there wasn't an Internet back then either. You can't find everything on the Internet either. I run into that problem often.

However, a 30 second search turned up these. They seem to give an general overview, but not per state laws.

https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nol...operty-owner-liable-trespassers-injuries.html
https://injury.findlaw.com/accident-injury-law/premises-liability-who-is-responsible.html

I still have family that might remember the various lawsuits taking place back in the day. If I remember the next time I'm at a gathering I'll ask around.

Yeah, that's not really talking about state by state laws in this regard at all, in fact it just seems like a general overview of how a lawyer might approach the subject no matter what state it occurred in, and knowing this country, I bet it's been taken to court at least once in every state, whether it has ever won remains to be seen though.
 

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I just can not wait till he is out of Office. But you know, if the Votes are against him, he is going to cry and moan like a little bitch saying the Numbers are wrong, he wants a Re-Count (Florida. LOL).
But Biden is not any better. A few of the ones he wants to put in Office would try their best to get rid of the 2nd Amendment. The People have the Right to be able to Defend themselves AND help Defend this Country from Enemies, Foreign and Domestic!

He already said that he is not going to transfer powers peacefully if he loses and is going to fight it all the way to the supreme court. (just in time to rush in a lifetime partisan sycophant to replace RBG before the election) He also said at a rally that if Biden wins then the election will be "stolen", completely ruling out the possibly that Biden just may have had more votes that him. Remember, demigods in the public eye are flawless and never lose.

The Trump Administration is apparently mulling ways to bypass the election results. There's talk of red states with current red legislatures appointing electors themselves instead of popular vote. Unfortunately, there is nothing in the constitution that dictates electoral college electors have to be decided by popular vote...it's just been tradition that hasn't really been challenged. The idea has come up a few times in the past before in our history though. With the sediment of vOtEr fRauD, red states could potentially challenge the legitimacy of their electors vote if they cast a vote that's not in favor of their fascist leader
 
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You are all on glue! WTF? Why must everyone politicize everything? You all know right from wrong. The Democrats aren't responsible for the actions of morons! Neither are the Republicans. Blanket statements. Generalizations. Blaming Trump for the KKK and blaming Biden for BLM is liker blaming God for making you murder your neighbor! God didn't do it, you did! Biden didn't burn down any houses (that we know of) Trump didn't string up any nooses! (That we know of). Truth is, you are all to blame! All of you! The only reason people elect people like Trump is to get things done. Do my dirty work. Then there's remorse for electing a greedy fascist devil so they elect Someone like Biden the punk ass feminized do nothing butt puppet corpse so the rest of the world stops hating us. It's called having your cake and eating it too. WE NEED EACH OTHER AND WE ARE ALL TO BLAME. How else can we rule the would and still claim to be humanitarians? If an collective body of people in America, or anywhere else, had half a brain/soul then this shit would stop. But they don't, so this will never end. You are all diseased. It's the human condition.

Lefties, grow up. You have too much freedom already and you can't handle it. Abolishing the rules will backfire as it always does. You can't spend you way out of everything. Stop trying to save the world when your home is crumbling. Put our people first and save our country.

Righties, grow up. You have too much money already and you can't handle it. Didn't you mommy teach you how to share? We are all in this together here. Be nice. Share some of that mountain of money. People aren't just tools for you to manipulate and enslave. Put our people first and save our country.

Both sides will preach that they are putting the people first. They are stupid. I can't point my finger at any one of us. Nobody agrees with any candidate 100%. It's always a Giant Douche VS the Turd Sandwich. Just because FogotWho is a moron doesn't mean he supports everything his party does. I can only assume he has some kind of good intentions. Scared people love guns and beg for someone to protect them. No surprise. Glad they want the police to do it rather do it himself. Just because it's your right doesn't mean you should be armed. Paranoia like that and firearms are a lethal combo.
 

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He already said that he is not going to transfer powers peacefully if he loses and is going to fight it all the way to the supreme court. (just in time to rush in a lifetime partisan sycophant to replace RBG before the election) He also said at a rally that if Biden wins then the election will be "stolen", completely ruling out the possibly that Biden just may have had more votes that him. Remember, demigods in the public eye are flawless and never lose.

The Trump Administration is apparently mulling ways to bypass the election results. There's talk of red states with current red legislatures appointing electors themselves instead of popular vote. Unfortunately, there is nothing in the constitution that dictates electoral college electors have to be decided by popular vote...it's just been tradition that hasn't really been challenged. The idea has come up a few times in the past before in our history though. With the sediment of vOtEr fRauD, red states could potentially challenge the legitimacy of their electors vote if they cast a vote that's not in favor of their fascist leader

I really hope if the Democrats aren't caught with some massive voter fraud scheme and Trump loses a fair election that he steps down. There's also talk from Biden's side that he's already hired lawyers to contest the election if he loses, simply for losing. So there's that too. Do you have a source for Trump saying he won't go gracefully if he loses a legally run election? If you're sourcing part of a statement/speech please include the entirety of it. I don't like when things are taken out of context, simple statements mixed together from paragraphs of speech and/or meaning implied when there was none.

The fun part though is if Biden wins is his impeachment. Now that it's customary to impeach a President because you don't like the election results regardless of any wrong doing :) We definitely need to gear up on getting him impeached and start the process asap!
 
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I really hope if the Democrats aren't caught with some massive voter fraud scheme and Trump loses a fair election that he steps down. There's also talk from Biden's side that he's already hired lawyers to contest the election if he loses, simply for losing. So there's that too. Do you have a source for Trump saying he won't go gracefully if he loses a legally run election? If you're sourcing part of a statement/speech please include the entirety of it. I don't like when things are taken out of context, simple statements mixed together from paragraphs of speech and/or meaning implied when there was none.

The fun part though is if Biden wins is his impeachment. Now that it's customary to impeach a President because you don't like the election results regardless of any wrong doing :) We definitely need to gear up on getting him impeached and start the process asap!
Oh you want evidence for that?
okay.
Starting off with him saying he wants a third term because he thinks he deserves it
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrew...otiate-third-term-because-hes-entitled-to-it/
Second is the fact that he was targeting mail in ballots, which go through the same verification as absentee. And he never said he would accept the election results. Only speaking of a fake reality that the only way he would lose, is if the election is rigged. I don't think I need to state how much people rather have Biden over Trump.
And when I say that regarding mail in votes. He put Louis de joy, who wasn't only a massive money donor to the trump campaign, but has financial interest in mail services like fedex.
And he didn't do this earlier, he did it when he noticed his numbers were going down.
And MANY people, even people within certain departments of this administration have fears that Trump will not leave office peacefully primarily due to everything the president has tried to pull this election year. Hell, even Michel Cohen, his old lawyer said Trump would not leave office.
 
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Oh you want evidence for that?
okay.
Starting off with him saying he wants a third term because he thinks he deserves it
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrew...otiate-third-term-because-hes-entitled-to-it/
Second is the fact that he was targeting mail in ballots, which go through the same verification as absentee. And he never said he would accept the election results. Only speaking of a fake reality that the only way he would lose, is if the election is rigged. I don't think I need to state how much people rather have Biden over Trump.
And when I say that regarding mail in votes. He put Louis de joy, who wasn't only a massive money donor to the trump campaign, but has financial interest in mail services like fedex.
And he didn't do this earlier, he did it when he noticed his numbers were going down.
And MANY people, even people within certain departments of this administration have fears that Trump will not leave office peacefully primarily due to everything the president has tried to pull this election year. Hell, even Michel Cohen, his old lawyer said Trump would not leave office.

I looked into the issue. Trump made some comments in a press conference regarding mail in ballots and the fact he'd challenge the results in there was massive fraud. Once again the Democrats are full of shit regarding implying meaning when it's not what Trump said or meant. It's simply what the Democrats implied he meant. Same old game, another day ...

Already is in colleges and universities. Here's hoping Trump will add these institutions to the executive order and revoke government funding if they don't comply.

The executive order includes language that anyone that does business with or takes money from the Federal Government can't teach it or they lose that opportunity and/or funding. Every college I've ever heard of takes Federal Student Loans, meaning every single college will have to stop teaching this garbage or lose funding.

Theory aside...

I find it funny that "socialism" is bad because of government power and control, but this is somehow fine.

There's a stark difference between a few new laws and complete socialism, especially when the purpose of this executive order is to eradicate racism against White people.
 
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I looked into the issue. Trump made some comments in a press conference regarding mail in ballots and the fact he'd challenge the results in there was massive fraud. Once again the Democrats are full of shit regarding implying meaning when it's not what Trump said or meant. It's simply what the Democrats implied he meant. Same old game, another day ....
Yesterday when the president was asked if he would have a peaceful transition of power.
He didn't answer it.
Second off I already explained to you it's difficult to commit fraud. The burden of proof is significantly higher regarding mail in ballots. Higher than normal voting.
And not only that but the cases for fraud the last election cycles, where not 3% not 2 %
three to seven cases. All of which was caught.
This year a republican was going into people's mailboxes and changing their ballots with a marker.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ion-fraud-altered-ballot-requests/5412010002/
But guess what he was caught.
It could be a testament that committing fraud will likely get caught.
Which is a good thing right?
 
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I looked into the issue. Trump made some comments in a press conference regarding mail in ballots and the fact he'd challenge the results in there was massive fraud. Once again the Democrats are full of shit regarding implying meaning when it's not what Trump said or meant. It's simply what the Democrats implied he meant. Same old game, another day ...
Your evidence is 'I've looked into the issue and found that all people of a political fraction are full of shit'?

With an added 'dont worry' and no source given?
 
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I looked into the issue. Trump made some comments in a press conference regarding mail in ballots and the fact he'd challenge the results in there was massive fraud. Once again the Democrats are full of shit regarding implying meaning when it's not what Trump said or meant. It's simply what the Democrats implied he meant. Same old game, another day ...
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There is another issue of trying to have fraudulent mail in ballots. Effort.
In order to tip a election, the amount of effort required is 1 to 1. Aka, if you want to fake 10,000 votes. your going to need to create 10,000 fake ballots and somehow have every single one, with unique information that only those people would know. And even then, can be checked by signature.
 

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Yesterday when the president was asked if he would have a peaceful transition of power.
He didn't answer it.
Second off I already explained to you it's difficult to commit fraud. The burden of proof is significantly higher regarding mail in ballots. Higher than normal voting.
And not only that but the cases for fraud the last election cycles, where not 3% not 2 %
three to seven cases. All of which was caught.
This year a republican was going into people's mailboxes and changing their ballots with a marker.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ion-fraud-altered-ballot-requests/5412010002/
But guess what he was caught.
It could be a testament that committing fraud will likely get caught.
Which is a good thing right?

There is another issue of trying to have fraudulent mail in ballots. Effort.
In order to tip a election, the amount of effort required is 1 to 1. Aka, if you want to fake 10,000 votes. your going to need to create 10,000 fake ballots and somehow have every single one, with unique information that only those people would know. And even then, can be checked by signature.

Let me ask you a couple of questions.

(1) Even if you think it's impossible, what if Trump won the election and then afterwards we found out that he cheated using forged or fake ballots and by making ballots of people who voted for Biden vanish? In this unlikely situation what would you do?

(2) Now let me ask you something. What if Biden won, but then Trump refused to accept the results and contested the election just because he lost.

After you've answered those two questions you might want to realize that #1 is what Trump might face and #2 is what Biden formed a group of lawyers already to do.
 

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(1) Even if you think it's impossible, what if Trump won the election and then afterwards we found out that he cheated using forged or fake ballots and by making ballots of people who voted for Biden vanish? In this unlikely situation what would you do?
Yeah, what if. That would be a reason to dismantle democracy, right?

Just dont recognize that you've lost, until you are 'sufficiently convinced'.

Its not like as if we've never seen that in the case of Bushs brother in florida, right? (Voter registration lists controversy).

src: https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...r-suppression-to-a-brazen-new-extreme-184830/
 
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