Gaming Mario 3DAS differences from original games

regnad · Sep 16, 2020

I’ve started playing Sunshine, and two things jumped out at me.

first is that the intro cutscene has been greatly truncated. It no longer makes sense that Mario’s eyes are hearts since we don’t see the video of Isle Delfino’s highlights.

Also, and this may be my imagination, when spraying water standing still, I feel like the Y axis has been reversed. I’m constantly spraying down when I want to spray up. Hopefully I’ll get used to this since there’s no way to customize this.

Anyone find any other differences so far?

Technicmaster0 · Sep 16, 2020

regnad said:
I’ve started playing Sunshine, and two things jumped out at me.

first is that the intro cutscene has been greatly truncated. It no longer makes sense that Mario’s eyes are hearts since we don’t see the video of Isle Delfino’s highlights.

Also, and this may be my imagination, when spraying water standing still, I feel like the Y axis has been reversed. I’m constantly spraying down when I want to spray up. Hopefully I’ll get used to this since there’s no way to customize this.

Anyone find any other differences so far?

You can remap the gamepad buttons in the switch settings

regnad · Sep 16, 2020

Technicmaster0 said:
You can remap the gamepad buttons in the switch settings

Can you do it on a per game basis? In any case it’s just when squirting water while standing still. And it could be my imagination.

I have to say, overall I’m not that happy with the Sunshine controls, but I can’t quite put my finger on what it is. In general, though, I feel clumsy. On a GCN or Nintendont with a GCN controller I can zip through this stuff gracefully, but on Switch it’s one frustrating misstep after another. I need to try it with a pro controller and see how that goes.

TheCasualties · Sep 18, 2020

regnad said:
Also, and this may be my imagination, when spraying water standing still, I feel like the Y axis has been reversed. I’m constantly spraying down when I want to spray up. Hopefully I’ll get used to this since there’s no way to customize this.

It's not your imagination. The Y axis is indeed inverted when spraying. I'm starting to get used to it but muscle memory makes me pull back to aim up. Also the X axis of the camera is inverted, making it like most modern game cameras. This one isn't a big deal as I liked to reverse the X axis of the c-stick for this game in Dolphin anyways.

AFAIK there is no way to just change that axis. You can't even map the axis in system settings anyways. It's a shame they didn't include options. They tried to make it faithful to the original, then change some of the controls..

I'd have to start another new game in dolphin to check about the shortened intro. I think you are right that they cut the "highlights".

EDIT: apparently there is a config file, we might be able to change the axis settings but it doesn't seem worth the hassle to me.

The Real Jdbye · Sep 18, 2020

regnad said:
I’ve started playing Sunshine, and two things jumped out at me.

first is that the intro cutscene has been greatly truncated. It no longer makes sense that Mario’s eyes are hearts since we don’t see the video of Isle Delfino’s highlights.

Also, and this may be my imagination, when spraying water standing still, I feel like the Y axis has been reversed. I’m constantly spraying down when I want to spray up. Hopefully I’ll get used to this since there’s no way to customize this.

Anyone find any other differences so far?

I didn't even catch the Y axis being reversed, I just naturally moved it in the right direction, so I guess it makes more sense this way to me. It's been ages since I played the original though. What tripped me up were the ABXY button mappings, they didn't need to be changed, the layout is almost the same as a GameCube controller, keeping the mappings the same would be the closest thing.
I'm sure we'll get used to the changes after playing it for a few hours though.

antiNT · Sep 18, 2020

Yeah I definitely noticed the Y axis being inverted. I wish we could change this...

Deleted User · Sep 18, 2020

regnad said:
I’ve started playing Sunshine, and two things jumped out at me.

first is that the intro cutscene has been greatly truncated. It no longer makes sense that Mario’s eyes are hearts since we don’t see the video of Isle Delfino’s highlights.

Also, and this may be my imagination, when spraying water standing still, I feel like the Y axis has been reversed. I’m constantly spraying down when I want to spray up. Hopefully I’ll get used to this since there’s no way to customize this.

Anyone find any other differences so far?

That's disappointing, but the game's still playable. I'd say, if folks have a NGC/Wii around, then use it to play Mario Sunshine.

McPringles · Sep 18, 2020

Anyone know the software version for the leaked release? I just popped in my preorder cart and it seems to be version 1.0.1 without any updates. Wondering if there's a version 1.0.0 out there and what (if anything) got patched.

hippy dave · Sep 19, 2020

McPringles said:
Anyone know the software version for the leaked release? I just popped in my preorder cart and it seems to be version 1.0.1 without any updates. Wondering if there's a version 1.0.0 out there and what (if anything) got patched.

Leak was 1.0.0, Thursday's update took it to 1.0.1

Julie_Pilgrim · Sep 19, 2020

Don’t forget, captain toadstool has a single voxel missing, LITERALLY FUCKING UNPLAYABLE

shadoxXx · Sep 19, 2020

Anyone knows the changes made in the 1.0.1 patch?
They mentioned some changes to galaxy multiplayer, but I also read something about texture changes for galaxy I think. Someone datamined the update?

Lacius · Sep 19, 2020

regnad said:
I’ve started playing Sunshine, and two things jumped out at me.

first is that the intro cutscene has been greatly truncated. It no longer makes sense that Mario’s eyes are hearts since we don’t see the video of Isle Delfino’s highlights.

You can still watch the Delfino highlights at the beginning like before.

Julie_Pilgrim · Sep 21, 2020

ALSO MARIO’S MUSTACHE IS ONE PIXEL OFF WHAT THE FUCK NINTENDO

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