Sony confirms PS5 won't be backwards compatible with PS1, PS2, or PS3 games

Silent_Gunner · Sep 18, 2020

xenocard said:
if my m

if my macbook pro from 2017 can play RPCS3 emulator, by the time PS5 gets hacked, it will emulate it just fine

Just because the PS5 may be rocking a variant of the Ryzen processor doesn't mean it's rocking a straight up Ryzen 2700x; likely, it's going to be some APU based on Ryzen 2 (though some rumors said that Sony initially based the PS5 on Ryzen 1 and scrambled to put some stuff from Ryzen 2 or something according to one rumor about what's under the hood of the system) that won't be clocked to what the desktop CPU is given that I'm sure the PS5 isn't rocking anything like the Noctua DH-15, or anything like it's thermal paste in terms of absorbing heat. If it is, hey, I'll be glad to be proven wrong, but when devs are making games for consoles, they usually try to get as close to the metal as they can, where as with PC, you have to target as many hardware/software configurations as possible to ensure maximum compatibility and that you won't have people refunding the game when they buy a game and find out that some random bug (probably due to an AMD video card driver problem, but it's not like Nvidia doesn't have their moments) prevents their hardware from working correctly with the game that the dev, be it from the main team or some separate studio responsible for the PC port, didn't account for.

You can add support for Vulkan, sure, but it's still not quite as close to the metal as what a dev could get from working with on a console that only has to target one, two, possibly three different configurations at once as opposed to Heaven knows how many there are on PC.

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NoNAND said:
It's okay. The PS5 is strong enough to emulate them.

Just you wait till PS5 Pro.

the_randomizer · Sep 18, 2020

Lol that is all

RichardTheKing · Sep 18, 2020

Ericzander said:
What classic PS1, PS2, or PS3 era games do you wish you were able to play on the PS5?

PS1: None. Wasn't around for this.
PS2: Ratchet & Clank 2, 3, Deadlocked. Persona 3 FES. Ben 10: Protector of Earth. Probably a lot of others I've forgotten over the decade-plus.
PS3: No idea. I still have my PS3 (the later silver revision) in my drawer; I can swap it with my Wii U or PS4 Pro whenever I want. If this was a couple of (or several; lost track) years ago, I'd say Okami HD, but that's everywhere these days. Maybe Persona 4 Arena and P4A Ultimax? Never did get to play those.

JFizDaWiz · Sep 18, 2020

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tofast4u · Sep 18, 2020

Would I be able to use my PS4 disks on the PS5 or will it only be backwards compatible with PS4 digital titles?

osaka35 · Sep 18, 2020

Silent_Gunner said:
Eh...I mean, are they? What games that actually look good that are exclusive to their systems are there that people are excited about?

I'm fine with that. Doesn't have to be exclusive, just be the best one to play all your games. There a lot of old games i own that i can actually play now with the improved specs and loading times. Slime rancher will actually hit 60fps hopefully, and ff15 won't take 20 minites to load between scenes. And I'm hoping all my rockband stuff from the 360 won't be unsupported again just so i have to buy rockband 4 and its trashiness.

i never played the original xbox, so I'm excited to plop some of those games I've got lying around on there. The option to do so is nice, and definitely makes me feel better about purchasing xbox. I plan on buying playstation eventually when more ff7 comes out since I'm guessing I'll have to repurchase psclassic titles again.

Pokemon_Tea_Sea_Jee · Sep 18, 2020

Ericzander said:
The excuse that they ran out of time is clearly... Uh... Wrong. But hey, why get rid of an excuse to continuously remaster and resell old games?

This.

PlayStation 3 is the last Great game console from Sony.

Bedel · Sep 18, 2020

That "99%" means absolutly nothing xDDDD let's wait. I mean, I wish it were real, but you know what they say: 99% of people who talk in % invent them.

Deleted User · Sep 18, 2020

depaul said:
PS2 too was easy to emulate for Sony on PS3 and PS4.
I think the PS5 would be more than capable to emulate PS3 as well, but business decisions may exclude those platforms.

didn't sony remove ps2 BC on the ps3 because it barrely worked? though i'll admit ps5 indeed should have no problems emulating ps1, ps2 and ps3

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Harsky said:
Watch as the inevitable PS5 Slim drops the PS4 backwards compatibility.

doubt it, most likely they use a compatibility layer, as both are x86 based

godreborn · Sep 18, 2020

I think I'm going to pass on the ps5. I've got too much junk already, and that thing seems to be pretty large. I mean look at my floor. I have to plug and unplug stuff.

Goku1992A · Sep 18, 2020

Hmm I'm not too sure why people are upset. If the PS5 was BC with PS1-PS3 there will be zero reason for PS Now. PS Now is a substitute for BC but you have to pay for it. Hard to expect BC for PS5 when PS4 didn't support BC. At least the good news is 99% of PS4 games can be emulated with the PS5 Sony should provide the list of games that would not work on it. Does the PS5 really need BC no it doesn't. As long as the PS4 games work Sony wants you to purchase the PS Now service. I already have a modded PS2 and PS3 so I couldn't really care less about BC anyway. It is nice but not needed.

Most companies shy away from BC and they rather charge you for the remaster version of the game or even worse Nintendo would just repackage it and sell it to you (Mario 3D Allstars). Keep your consoles in good condition or support the devs for future development for emulators. If we had no emulators lots of games we wouldn't be able to play and we would be at the mercy of the big companies.

nitrozz · Sep 18, 2020

psx backup!! wow.

Ryccardo · Sep 18, 2020

Azerus_Kun said:
didn't sony remove ps2 BC on the ps3 because it barrely worked?

It never had 100% compatibility but it was first and foremost a matter of cost cutting, because their Five Hundred and Ninety-Nine U.S. Dollars system was not affordable enough by the masses yet was manufactured and sold at a loss, so in fact it went from 99% (CPU+GPU+memory) to 95% (GPU) to maybe 70% (full software emulation - officially for digital titles only and no support for most accessories) compatibility

wartutor · Sep 18, 2020

Azerus_Kun said:
didn't sony remove ps2 BC on the ps3 because it barrely worked? though i'll admit ps5 indeed should have no problems emulating ps1, ps2 and ps3

doubt it, most likely they use a compatibility layer, as both are x86 based

They removed it because ps3 was so expensive to make and it saved alot of money making the console cheaper. The 1st ps3 essentally had a ps2 built into it for backwards compatability The $600+ price tag put alot of people off of it and they was still loosing money

Edit ninja'd again lmao

pedro702 · Sep 18, 2020

Azerus_Kun said:
didn't sony remove ps2 BC on the ps3 because it barrely worked? though i'll admit ps5 indeed should have no problems emulating ps1, ps2 and ps3

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doubt it, most likely they use a compatibility layer, as both are x86 based

barely worked? lol are you for real? almost all ps1 and ps2 games work perfectly well on the phat ps3 models, they removed because ps3 phat models had some hardware for ps2 games and such and it was extra expensive.

afaik the backwards compat is very high for ps2 and ps1 on my entrie 200 games collection i only found out 2 opr 3 ps1 games that had issues and 1 ps2 game that has a glitch, the rest all work fine with smooth filter and upscalled to hd.

Darkworld92 · Sep 18, 2020

I was kinda hoping they would go for PS1/2 backwards compatibility.. looks like Microsoft won this round

Nobody_Important4u · Sep 18, 2020

This is stupid, they are the ones who have all the fucking documentation in the World so here's summary:

Ps1: NONE! THERE'S NO FUCKING EXCUSE FOR THEM! FUCKING SONY THE MULTIMILLIOM COMPANY COULD PULL THIS IN A WEEK! BUT NOOOOOOOO! THEY ARE NOT EVEN GONNA SELL THEM DIGITALLY! I COULD RUN PS1 EMULATOR ON A FUCKING WINDOWS MOBILE I AM TALKING ABOUT THIS SHIT! THIS SHIT:

AND I HAD OLDER ONE!
THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN THINK OF IS THE FACT THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE PS1 DISCS BUT THAT'S WHAT DIGITAL STORES ARE FOR!
PS2: NO FUCKING EXCUSE AGAIN!
Ps3: The only one that i can forgive i mean the have all the fucking documentation on the world about it so they could definitly do it but it still would take actual time and money so i guess that it would make sense.

Do it you cowards!

Lazyboss · Sep 18, 2020

Didn't we know that like a year ago?

pedro702 · Sep 18, 2020

Nobody_Important4u said:
This is stupid, they are the ones who have all the fucking documentation in the World so here's summary:

Ps1: NONE! THERE'S NO FUCKING EXCUSE FOR THEM! FUCKING SONY THE MULTIMILLIOM COMPANY COULD PULL THIS IN A WEEK! BUT NOOOOOOOO! THEY ARE NOT EVEN GONNA SELL THEM DIGITALLY! I COULD RUN PS1 EMULATOR ON A FUCKING WINDOWS MOBILE I AM TALKING ABOUT THIS SHIT! THIS SHIT:
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AND I HAD OLDER ONE!
THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN THINK OF IS THE FACT THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE PS1 DISCS BUT THAT'S WHAT DIGITAL STORES ARE FOR!
PS2: NO FUCKING EXCUSE AGAIN!
Ps3: The only one that i can forgive i mean the have all the fucking documentation on the world about it so they could definitly do it but it still would take actual time and money so i guess that it would make sense.

Do it you cowards!

sadly i dont think sony will ever go back making a full compatible console ever again that is why i keep my 60gb phat ps3 hooked.

maybe in afew years you get a clone console, you already have for ps1 games polymega reads ps1 discs and plays them amazingly and it plays alot of other stuff like sega saturn and so on.

Phat ps3 RIP, the last fully backward compatibility greatest console.

Microsoft backwards compact as always been a joke, if you get like 30-40 % success your lucky, and now you need to wait for them to manually add titles after making agreements with devs which means defunct devs and such will never get backwards compat on xbox consoles.

Nintendo either does 1 gen behind or none at all depending on the generation.so yeah don't expect a legacy console any day in hell.

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