Homebrew TWPatcher - DS(i) mode screen filters and patches

andot · Sep 7, 2020

playsaves3 said:
question on the old version do we hold x when clicking start to have widescreen or no?

Hold Y for a second or two, then hold B for a bit, then release B, and release Y when the menu shows up.
From there use the DPAD to (awfully slowly) navigate to the widescreen patch and the GPU scale patch. Use A to toggle the patches on/off.
Press B to go back to the main menu, select a matrix you want, then hold *just* START to patch.

playsaves3 · Sep 7, 2020

andot said:
Hold Y for a second or two, then hold B for a bit, then release B, and release Y when the menu shows up.
From there use the DPAD to (awfully slowly) navigate to the widescreen patch and the GPU scale patch. Use A to toggle the patches on/off.
Press B to go back to the main menu, select a matrix you want, then hold *just* START to patch.

ill try this thanks

playsaves3 · Sep 7, 2020

Sono said:
It does say how to open the patch menu.
Hold Y for a second or two, then hold B for a bit, then release B, and release Y when the menu shows up.
From there use the DPAD to (awfully slowly) navigate to the widescreen patch and the GPU scale patch (optional). Use A to toggle the patches on/off.
Press B to go back to the main menu, select a matrix you want, then hold *just* START to patch.

Hi I play the pokemon games which in your opinion is the best scale patch also whats the difference between the sono crisp original and tweaked

r0achtheunsavory · Sep 9, 2020

playsaves3 said:
Hi I play the pokemon games which in your opinion is the best scale patch also whats the difference between the sono crisp original and tweaked

^I used the "pixel doubling" patch personally because it seemed to look the least blurry out of all the options. Any type of blurry interpolation looks disgusting. It makes me question the sanity of the Retroarch git maintainer when they enable bilinear filtering by default for a monolithic app that mostly handles 2d images.

Turning on the widescreen option seemed to work amazingly well. Much better than I thought it would. My main concern is now testing to see if there's any difference in things like input lag with this or any of it's options installed. Coder monkeys ALWAYS manage to screw up input lag somehow by feature creep. TLDR: the more features a program has, the worse it is.

playsaves3 · Sep 9, 2020

r0achtheunsavory said:
^I used the "pixel doubling" patch personally because it seemed to look the least blurry out of all the options. Any type of blurry interpolation looks disgusting. It makes me question the sanity of the Retroarch git maintainer when they enable bilinear filtering by default for a monolithic app that mostly handles 2d images.

Turning on the widescreen option seemed to work amazingly well. Much better than I thought it would. My main concern is now testing to see if there's any difference in things like input lag with this or any of it's options installed. Coder monkeys ALWAYS manage to screw up input lag somehow by feature creep. TLDR: the more features a program has, the worse it is.

thanks for the input

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r0achtheunsavory said:
^I used the "pixel doubling" patch personally because it seemed to look the least blurry out of all the options. Any type of blurry interpolation looks disgusting. It makes me question the sanity of the Retroarch git maintainer when they enable bilinear filtering by default for a monolithic app that mostly handles 2d images.

Turning on the widescreen option seemed to work amazingly well. Much better than I thought it would. My main concern is now testing to see if there's any difference in things like input lag with this or any of it's options installed. Coder monkeys ALWAYS manage to screw up input lag somehow by feature creep. TLDR: the more features a program has, the worse it is.

I like the effect on renegade platinum thanks for the info I also assume you use the gpu scale patch right?

Nemix77 · Sep 9, 2020

I think I'm doing something wrong but I cannot get only the games that support widescreen to be displayed in widescreen.

When I enable widescreen all games get widescreen even the ones that do not support widescreen which means they are stretched.

emcintosh · Sep 9, 2020

Nemix77 said:
I think I'm doing something wrong but I cannot get only the games that support widescreen to be displayed in widescreen.

When I enable widescreen all games get widescreen even the ones that do not support widescreen which means they are stretched.

This is normal unless you launch your games through TWiLightMenu. This lets you set whether to use the widescreen or standard version of the firmware for each game. Launching straight from the 3DS menu (either original cartridge or flashcart) will just use whichever version you have in the Luma folder on the SD card. Or, if you don't mind the non-widescreen games using Nintendo's default scaling rather than Sono's improvement, you could toggle it by holding select when turning the 3DS on and [de]activating FIRM patching.

I use a SuperCard DSTwo flashcart for my DS games, so I have to move/rename the file to toggle widescreen.

Nemix77 · Sep 9, 2020

Sorry, yeah I'm launching the games through Twilight Menu.

The widescreen guide for Twilight Menu has been updated and no longer requires naming TwlBg.cxi to Widescreen.cxi and moving it to sd:/_nds/TWiLightMenu/TwlBg/.

https://github.com/DS-Homebrew/TWiL...reen/14180edfbd4e5e4798c703843fc4090618fcf431

Could this be the problem?

RocketRobz · Sep 10, 2020

Nemix77 said:
Sorry, yeah I'm launching the games through Twilight Menu.

The widescreen guide for Twilight Menu has been updated and no longer requires naming TwlBg.cxi to Widescreen.cxi and moving it to sd:/_nds/TWiLightMenu/TwlBg/.

https://github.com/DS-Homebrew/TWiL...reen/14180edfbd4e5e4798c703843fc4090618fcf431

Could this be the problem?

Yes. 4:3 games now require either no TwlBg.cxi file, or turning off external FIRMs and modules.

Nemix77 · Sep 10, 2020

Robz8 said:
Yes. 4:3 games now require either no TwlBg.cxi file, or turning off external FIRMs and modules.

Can the sd:/_nds/TWiLightMenu/TwlBg/ folder still use a Widescreen.cxi file in the latest Twilight Menu?

ccfman2004 · Sep 10, 2020

Nemix77 said:
Can the sd:/_nds/TWiLightMenu/TwlBg/ folder still use a Widescreen.cxi file in the latest Twilight Menu?

No. Only the TwlBG.cxi in the Luma/sysmodules is checked now.

playsaves3 · Sep 10, 2020

ccfman2004 said:
No. Only the TwlBG.cxi in the Luma/sysmodules is checked now.

should I switch to 4:3 when using widescreen on the pokemon games?

DSoryu · Sep 10, 2020

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PrincessLillie · Sep 10, 2020

Dartz150 said:
I will give the .3dsx retroarch builds a go, since given the comments of other uses it seems to load faster than the cia builds. I onbly have a question: Should the .3dsx files be on the cores folder inside the /retroarch directory or inside the /3ds directory?

Did you reply to the wrong topic? This thread is for TWPatcher, nothing about it is related to RetroArch.

DSoryu · Sep 10, 2020

sks316 said:
Did you reply to the wrong topic? This thread is for TWPatcher, nothing about it is related to RetroArch.

Yikes, thanks for the warning, I have my browser tabs all messed up.

ccfman2004 · Sep 10, 2020

playsaves3 said:
should I switch to 4:3 when using widescreen on the pokemon games?

That doesn’t work anymore unless you delete TwlBG.cxi or turn off loading external FIRMs and modules now.

playsaves3 · Sep 10, 2020

ccfman2004 said:
That doesn’t work anymore unless you delete TwlBG.cxi or turn off loading external FIRMs and modules now.

what setting do you use to get the clearest image ive heard double pixel is the best

seriffic · Sep 12, 2020

The GPU scaling hack is great

I realize that I much prefer how GBARunner2 scales GBA games on my o3DS, which does a 1.25x scale vs the VC scaling.
Are any current methods to patch AGB_FIRM to force 1.25 scaling of GBA games? Retroarch emulation is too slow for the games I want to play.

Alternatively it'd be cool to make DS channel forwarders that launch GBA games from GBARunner2... which ever way works.

BETA215 · Sep 12, 2020

seriffic said:
The GPU scaling hack is great

I realize that I much prefer how GBARunner2 scales GBA games on my o3DS, which does a 1.25x scale vs the VC scaling.
Are any current methods to patch AGB_FIRM to force 1.25 scaling of GBA games? Retroarch emulation is too slow for the games I want to play.

Alternatively it'd be cool to make DS channel forwarders that launch GBA games from GBARunner2... which ever way works.

Haven't tried open_agb_firm yet? It works exactly like GBA's VC (GBA games run natively on the console) and it has its own scaling method. Maybe you like it (or maybe you don't). It's still WIP, so it might get better for you later on.

playsaves3 · Sep 12, 2020

seriffic said:
The GPU scaling hack is great

I realize that I much prefer how GBARunner2 scales GBA games on my o3DS, which does a 1.25x scale vs the VC scaling.
Are any current methods to patch AGB_FIRM to force 1.25 scaling of GBA games? Retroarch emulation is too slow for the games I want to play.

Alternatively it'd be cool to make DS channel forwarders that launch GBA games from GBARunner2... which ever way works.

I dont like the way it looks in motion im just tolerating it cause if i dont add then the actual visuals look bad

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BETA215 said:
Haven't tried open_agb_firm yet? It works exactly like GBA's VC (GBA games run natively on the console) and it has its own scaling method. Maybe you like it (or maybe you don't). It's still WIP, so it might get better for you later on.

where do I access this?

Homebrew TWPatcher - DS(i) mode screen filters and patches

Are you interested in a complete replacement of TwlBg which includes all patches?

Yes, I don't care how broken it will be!

No, I don't want to use even more broken stuff

Yes, but only in GBA mode, because I play DSi exclusives

No, because I only use DS and DSi mode

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