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[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

For whom will/would you vote?


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Itsuki235

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So we should punish the rich for being smart with their money.
Here is a sanity check with a reference to the foundation of this country:

When a wealthy person part of the 0.1% dies, should the wealth they accumulated throughout their life be returned to society from whence it came, or should they be allowed to pass on all/most of it to their "inheritors" who are then wealthy enough to not have to work a day in their life? Such persons would then be free to live on the interest the wealth generates and also have enough to contribute financially to political campaigns to ensure they have political power. The coagulation of that wealth would then predictably create an elite "ruling class".

If you voted for Mitt Romney (advocate of total repeal of estate tax) or Trump (edit: who doubled the estate tax maximums), e.g. Republican, then congrats, you voted for "Let them eat cake."
 
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By that logic, Trump should have retired 17 years ago. Like I'm no fan of Biden, but this is a really dumb line of attack regardless. Most US presidents have been hella old.
Hold your horses, i am not attacking nobody, i work ,never got any type of help from government, 22 years working and paying taxes.Get a job and get loss with your coupons pu***. You are a bum , you dont even have 2 dollars to pay patreon.
 

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Not particularly. As I've said before, Biden and Harris are center-right, while Trump and Pence are far right. Then again, I never thought I'd see any president, Democrat or Republican, attack the post office of all things in my lifetime. That, and the fact that I can't be confident there will ever be any more elections should Trump win a second term, is slowly nudging me toward voting Biden. Not that it really matters, he'll win my state regardless (Colorado).

Voting for the lesser of two evils blows and I'm certainly sick of it, but thanks to the Trump administration's failures in dealing with the coronavirus, moving to a country with an actual democracy and an actual leftist party isn't even an option right now. So step one is getting some stable leadership to convince the rest of the world that all Americans aren't ignorant, science-denying plague rats. After that I can weigh my options and possibly abandon ship before this country decides to go full fash.
Biden and Harris are not center-right. They can be described as center-left or maybe even left.
 

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Trump, in fact, disbanded the pandemic response team in 2018. Your own links acknowledge this (they take issue with the word "fired").

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

Edit: Off topic, but I wanted to point out that Politifact is a joke. They routinely rate true statements as false in order to avoid the appearance of bias.
 
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nvm. I'm in too good a mood for this shit.
Even if you were in a bad mood, this thread would surely make it worse.

Although, even through the hoax gaze of the media, this past week has begun to indicate a tipping point among many that is finally starting to favor giving Trump a real shot at pulling through with this thing.
 

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Your source is a wiki? Well then it must be true.
There are a lot of crimes, and I'm not going to do your homework for you. Wikipedia is an excellent compendium of information with sources provided for you. I suggest perusing it at your leisure. If you disagree with something there, feel free to change the page and provide your sources.

If you arbitrarily don't want to look at the well-organized list I linked to you, I'd recommend starting instead with the Mueller Report, particularly with regard to criminal obstruction of justice.
 
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There are a lot of crimes, and I'm not going to do your homework for you. Wikipedia is an excellent compendium of information with sources provided for you. I suggest perusing it at your leisure. If you disagree with something there, feel free to change the page and provide your sources.

If you arbitrarily don't want to look at the well-organized list I linked to you, I'd recommend starting instead with the Mueller Report, particularly with regard to criminal obstruction of justice.
Sorry, but as the one making the statement, the burden of proof is on you, not me. Also if you are able to provide a more unbiased source, I may take you more seriously. Unfortunately, I need to get some rest, as I have a job I have to go to, and am unable to find the time to parse through walls of text at the moment.
 

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Sorry, but as the one making the statement, the burden of proof is on you, not me. Also if you are able to provide a more unbiased source, I may take you more seriously. Unfortunately, I need to get some rest, as I have a job I have to go to, and am unable to find the time to parse through walls of text at the moment.
  1. I provided a compendium of information on Trump's alleged crimes, including sources.
  2. Wikipedia is not biased.
  3. I mentioned the Mueller Report as a source.
  4. Wikipedia sounds like the right thing for someone who "doesn't have time to read through walls of text," so here's the summary page on Trump's alleged obstruction of justice in the Mueller Report. It's a lot more concise than the Mueller Report itself.
I'm not sure what else you want from me.
 
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  1. I provided a compendium of information on Trump's alleged crimes, including sources.
  2. Wikipedia is not biased.
  3. I mentioned the Mueller Report as a source.
  4. Wikipedia sounds like the right thing for someone who "doesn't have time to read through walls of text," so here's the summary page on Trump's alleged obstruction of justice in the Mueller Report. It's a lot more concise than the Mueller Report itself.
I'm not sure what else you want from me.
Yes yes. You are ever so eager to find information that supports your bias against Trump while proclaiming that Biden has done nothing wrong which couldn't be further from the truth. *cough*Tara Reed*cough*
 
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Yes yes. You are ever so eager to find information that supports your bias against Trump while proclaiming that Biden has done nothing wrong which couldn't be further from the truth. *cough*Tara Reed*cough*
I didn't say "Trump has committed crimes" because of a bias against Trump. I don't like Romney, for example, but I wasn't calling him a criminal in 2012. I said "Trump has committed crimes" because we have evidence that he has committed crimes.

We don't have sufficient evidence to accept any of the Tara Reed allegations, and I'm not going to talk about them. If our standards of evidence are so low that we are going to accept the Tara Reed allegations, then we have to accept at least 25 allegations against Trump in order to be consistent. It sounds like I'm not the one who hasn't checked their biases at the door.

Let me know when you want to discuss Trump's crimes instead of deflecting and attacking my character.
 

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Not an American, but as an outsider, I would have really loved to see Bernie be the next POTUS. Seemed like the only guy with the guts to stand up to Israeli shenanigans and be a fair arbitrator in settling the issue. The current efforts are overwhelmingly one-sided.
 
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