Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Remastered's online play will be region locked

MetoMeto · Aug 23, 2020

Region locking.........that's still a thing?!
And online region locked?!?!?

DarkCoffe64 · Aug 23, 2020

Well, fuck you too Square Enix

gonna wait for sum hacker to get around this bullcrap I guess

Jayro · Aug 23, 2020

I don't understand why some devs still pull this bullshit. To me, region-locking is a form of racism. Or somewhere on that line of discrimination.

ChaosEternal · Aug 23, 2020

Jayro said:
I don't understand why some devs still pull this bullshit. To me, region-locking is a form of racism. Or somewhere on that line of discrimination.

But if every region is being locked equally, then who is being discriminated against? To me it sounds more like the opposite; being too race-conscious. "If everyone is segregated into proper ethnic groups, then they're less likely to face microaggressions" or something. That being said, I rather doubt that race or ethnicity played any factor in their decision. I simply can't think of any reasons related to those factors that would prompt such a move. Regardless, I do wish that they wouldn't restrict us so...

DarkCoffe64 · Aug 23, 2020

ChaosEternal said:
But if every region is being locked equally, then who is being discriminated against? To me it sounds more like the opposite; being too race-conscious. "If everyone is segregated into proper ethnic groups, then they're less likely to face microaggressions" or something. That being said, I rather doubt that race or ethnicity played any factor in their decision. I simply can't think of any reasons related to those factors that would prompt such a move. Regardless, I do wish that they wouldn't restrict us so...

I can think of one

they're massive idiots
and probably senile
and hey, its them japanese, as far as I can remember, they've always been mostly terrible with online stuff

xdarkx · Aug 23, 2020

Jayro said:
I don't understand why some devs still pull this bullshit. To me, region-locking is a form of racism. Or somewhere on that line of discrimination.

This region lock thing has nothing to do with racism. It's a form of DRM.

On topic: I am interested as to why this game is region locked. My guess would be as some of the guys here pointed out is the online doesn't work that well across region. It's possible they didn't have enough time to work on this part of online play as they spent most of time developing the crossplay feature for the online portion and are trying to get this out asap.

Hells Malice · Aug 24, 2020

It's like they asked themselves "How can we royally fuck this extremely beloved remaster before it's released"

and to their credit, they knocked it out of the park fucking things up.

tabzer · Aug 24, 2020

PiracyForTheMasses said:
Region locking is the sensible thing to do. Wish more games did the same.

WHY?

Arras said:
Trying to minimize ping when you're playing with randoms is something all games do.

100% False.

Jayro said:
I don't understand why some devs still pull this bullshit. To me, region-locking is a form of racism. Or somewhere on that line of discrimination.

They reinforce the idea of borders and force people to make decisions based on ethnic preference--I get what you mean.

ChaosEternal said:
"If everyone is segregated into proper ethnic groups, then they're less likely to face microaggressions" or something. That being said, I rather doubt that race or ethnicity played any factor in their decision.

"proper ethnic groups" is the racist part. Some people don't fit into that mold so therefore it can never be applied "equally". That being said, their decisions weren't based on race, but ethnicity is usually considered with many aspects of localizing and region-restricting. It's not overt or intended to be racist, per se, but it saves them money.

Kioku · Aug 24, 2020

The Frenchman said:
People complaining about no local play, there never was, that was the point of the GBA connectivity, play it on switch face to face.

People importing the japanese physical copy will be limited to that region... that is bad though

Did you really just say there was never local play? Huh? Then you proceed to talk about GBA connectivity. How did you think it worked? You plug in one GBA and you can play over the air with other players around the world?

You needed the GBA connection (super gimmicky at the time) to play LOCALLY with up to 4 players.

Impossible_Igntiz · Aug 24, 2020

Already wasn't interested in this spin-off garbage and now they don't want local co-op for why? I guess Squrash-enix doesn't like money or longevity

Impossible_Igntiz · Aug 24, 2020

MetoMeto said:
Region locking.........that's still a thing?!
And online region locked?!?!?

Well that's the Japanese for you...

SS4 · Aug 24, 2020

Everyone saying its because of lag . . . Ppl having horseshit internet is much more of an issue than ppl that are far.
I have played PSO2 on the Japanese servers for years and never had any lag issues . . .
Its 2020, most ppl have access to fiber nowadays except those in remote areas so distance is a non issue unlike 20 years ago . . .

osaka35 · Aug 24, 2020

I'm sorry, the whole point of the original game, local co-op, has been axed? this isn't a hd release then, it's a feature removed version. How so incredibly disappointing and infuriating. I'm beyond pissed. I have enough switches to play online, but I have to have four nintendo online accounts to play with my 3 friends sitting right beside me? COME ON. What an absolutely shiet thing to do to the fanbase. Really feels like they're spitting in our faces and saying it's for our own good.

seseiSeki · Aug 24, 2020

SS4 said:
Its 2020, most ppl have access to fiber nowadays except those in remote areas so distance is a non issue unlike 20 years ago . . .

Most people? I don't know anyone who has access to fiber. Also, I just looked at a few statistics and unless you live in Korea, Japan or one of a few European countries, fiber is not really an option.

That being said, PSO2 JP worked perfectly for me. A connection shouldn't be that big of a problem nowadays.

tabzer · Aug 24, 2020

It's true that there are many people who do not have access to high speed internet, causing their latency to be lower than others; so pairing based on latency might disenfranchise them. This can still be considered by a protocol integrated in the program itself to pair despite latency, if the past few attempts haven't encouraged better results. Ultimately, pairing based on region is/should be considered obsolete/counter-intuitve.

GbaNober · Aug 24, 2020

SS4 said:
Everyone saying its because of lag . . . Ppl having horseshit internet is much more of an issue than ppl that are far.
I have played PSO2 on the Japanese servers for years and never had any lag issues . . .
Its 2020, most ppl have access to fiber nowadays except those in remote areas so distance is a non issue unlike 20 years ago . . .

you mean your social circle

Arras · Aug 24, 2020

SS4 said:
Everyone saying its because of lag . . . Ppl having horseshit internet is much more of an issue than ppl that are far.
I have played PSO2 on the Japanese servers for years and never had any lag issues . . .
Its 2020, most ppl have access to fiber nowadays except those in remote areas so distance is a non issue unlike 20 years ago . . .

That's because PSO2 opts to do almost everything locally, and since you don't interact much with other players directly, it's usually fine. It can desync pretty badly though, where you'll see your ally hitting the air and enemies in a completely different part of the room taking damage. Games where stuff needs to be more synchronized can't really do that.

spotanjo3 · Aug 24, 2020

Who cares. I do not care about online but I feel bad for those who wants to use online for region free. That's stupid decision ever made. Why don't you guys complain to them and hope that they heard you and make a wish reality for region free online.

DJPlace · Aug 24, 2020

i will only pay 10 dollars for this at the most. i heard online is way worse. but why the fuck remove local co-op?

Pokemon_Tea_Sea_Jee · Aug 24, 2020

Region lock should be optional, like in street fighter4.

and it doesnt make sense for this type of game.

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