Oculus devices will require Facebook logins, the company announces

GbaNober · Aug 19, 2020

another scanning device

thequadehunter · Aug 19, 2020

Christ. Why do I even need to log into anything?

pcwizard7 · Aug 19, 2020

I delete my facebook account year ago and when i do go for vr i d prob pick steam headset or something else

M7L7NK7 · Aug 19, 2020

the_randomizer said:
Total shit move, not buying

Were you honestly going to buy it anyway?

spotanjo3 · Aug 19, 2020

No thanks. Stupid decision!

MetoMeto · Aug 19, 2020

Another shameless, legal invasion of privacy.
I never liket that VR sh*t anyway.

Anywya, i didn't get this right, can someone please explain?
So in order to simply USE the device i need an account and now i will need a Facebook account?

LightBeam · Aug 19, 2020

Wanted to go for an Oculus Quest, guess I'll pass ?

WeedZ · Aug 19, 2020

I've never owned one of these, so maybe I'm missing something.. but why do you need to log in to use a piece of hardware at all?

Brayton1-7 · Aug 19, 2020

im not suprised, but this sucks

Clydefrosch · Aug 19, 2020

i guess fuck occulus then, eh?

FAST6191 · Aug 19, 2020

thequadehunter said:
Christ. Why do I even need to log into anything?

It is a question often asked.

As popular media since the 80s has accurately predicted VR is going to be huge, doubtless bigger than Jesus (though at current rates of religious decline that won't be saying much), when it finally works well enough for the purposes of the general public (right now we are still in the nerd toy that other nerds don't even care about) and hits a price point/tech demand point worth it.
He who controls either the APIs or the main tech path into it (be it through patents, which might be hard given VR is screens in glasses and maybe some kind of position sensor) or a consumer base that might not shift due to initial investment, and maybe extant library, will then be a prime position to do the something something profit routine similar to how going up against Steam or DirectX today is a hard task. Whether Facebook will use it to prop up their ailing business (new users are not so many, the youth are dropping out, various older people treating it as another service to catch news on, other parts of the world are doing other things, adverts not doing so much, backlash from tech evangelists and governments...) or sell it for all the money I don't know. Until then though you get to be an active user for facebook's purposes, possibly pay them to advertise your new games (if all your target hardware's users, and their good friends, have a facebook account that facebook presumably knows about rather than being scattered across a hundred websites and more video channels...), and live under their ~~censorship~~ content guideline policies.

TheCasualties said:
Edit: @FAST6191 have you played Boneworks yet? Half life alyx? Original doom in VR? Obviously these aren't Oculus exclusives but hot damn, they are the best VR titles to date and they are amazing.

I did see a video gushing about the water physics patch for Alyx. If that is all it has to offer then I will stick with AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! for the Awesome which was fun but nothing to particularly write home about.

Spider_Man · Aug 19, 2020

so your forced to use facebook to use vr, theyll likely be spying more on what your doing and likely start bombarding your profile with shit.

Mark McDonut · Aug 19, 2020

looks like it'll be HTC Vive or Steam VR for me.

This is exactly what people said would happen when facebook became part of it.

wiiando · Aug 19, 2020

Easy solution to this, if you have a legit facebook or don't have facebook, create a fake email, create a fake facebook account, link it, log out of facebook, block any urls that seem to capture data

Redhorse · Aug 19, 2020

I don't trust FaceCrook in the slightest... They have been pushing me to link my two accounts for years, and finally blocked me out of one of mine recently, because I wouldn't. All this because I wouldn't merge my list of contacts and grow their base. They can suck my filthy keyboard. Also why I don't make FB posts on ANY device, ever.

FAST6191 · Aug 19, 2020

wiiando said:
Easy solution to this, if you have a legit facebook or don't have facebook, create a fake email, create a fake facebook account, link it, log out of facebook, block any urls that seem to capture data

Facebook have been seen to be clamping down on fake accounts in places most care to live (their lack of concern towards the Indian like spammer set almost makes me wonder if they have a direct financial interest in having them still around), and in some places probably have better biometric data setups, to say nothing of their social mesh/degrees of separation, than most local state driving test types and that is for people not on their site (see the fun and games of being tagged in photos or data requests from non users). I don't maintain any virtual networks of people any more* but those that do tell me it is quite hard, and the last time someone wanted me to set up an account (thinking it was like any random shopping site account/just another in the "setting up a business" checklist things that I had handled the last 20 of for them) I had a pretty hard time stopping the "are you sure you really are an older man in California and not in the UK" even with legit data, location and whatever else.
Equally privacy blockers are probably harder to get going on than advert blockers on mobile devices.

*Never once had a personal account and not wanted one either, used to have a few where you would make various accounts, scatter proxies around the place, alter virtual biometrics (assuming you did not just post pictures of food, tech and cats and prevent tineye from working altered landscape shots), create virtual links, have 3/4 of your puppets go to imaginary parties, follow "local" companies and so on. Towards the end it was mostly intellectual curiosity that kept things going.

Deleted User · Aug 19, 2020

Negative vibe here, but GBATEMP isn't common place.
Majority of folks don't value their privacy, otherwise FB wouldn't even be a thing.

On a salty note, VR is like amiibo or Shelby Cobra GT 500, just another expensive dust collector.

FAST6191 · Aug 19, 2020

Torina said:
Negative vibe here, but GBATEMP isn't common place.

Maybe not but if this move does turn reasonably tech savvy gaming types (which is GBAtemp's general demographic*, and likely also the main focus of this sort of thing at this point in time) away from the project that would speak to them in turn struggling to get/maintain a foothold in the field.

*if you can wrangle a flash cart or custom firmware, and at the same time new and novel experiences is also a thing you go in for (while there are those doing the annual EA/Ubisoft efforts + Nintendo franchise they brought back this year there are plenty that do go exploring the depths, and this last decade or so also be well into motion controls/touchscreen space as well), then I would posit you are prime if not early adopter then early growth phase.

If they had done this in 7-10 years when the cost of entry is enough that it is little more than a half decent racing wheel is today, or maybe even it is bundled by default or much like buying a headset with mic, then yeah opposing it might be as easy as opposing Steam (their insistence upon it for the various Half Life efforts back in the day was not uncontroversial, today those of us opposing Steam are either considered antiquated luddities, opposition to the march of progress or shills for Epic Game Store). Today it is a different matter, though presumably if they waited someone else might lock down the market, or, worse, someone might have made a nice open API that everybody can play with.

Bladexdsl · Aug 19, 2020

just when you thought VR couldn't get any worse

the_randomizer · Aug 19, 2020

Milenko said:
Were you honestly going to buy it anyway?

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