AYA-NEO, a handheld gaming PC, claims to be the “most powerful handheld gaming device”

ov3rkill · Aug 16, 2020

Jesus Christ! This is is faster than my potato PC. AMD is on a roll. Damn!

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Now imagine the next gen Ryzen 5k series APU. Hopefully, most of those games will be able to play at high settings. The future is bright for PC mobile gaming with AMD.

tomhanks69 · Aug 16, 2020

*installs yuzu emulator on Aya-Neo*

peteruk · Aug 16, 2020

They stated in a previous video that this is not the finished article and the buttons and build will change

It's purely a proto type so please reserve judgements on the design until it's official release

I really want one of these, will be super useful for me

I'm hoping they decide to add a hdmi out port OR enable usb-c to hdmi with power pass through

Jokey_Carrot · Aug 16, 2020

It's cheaper than the iphone x

HideoKojima · Aug 16, 2020

That's amazing, I'd get one if I could afford it.

Ps didn't know our community has racists..

SSG Vegeta · Aug 16, 2020

They're out of their minds if they think that anyone would want to spend $700

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anhminh · Aug 17, 2020

Berkiel said:
Because games on PC are much cheaper, have actual graphical settings, access to fan made patches or MODS, have you ever heard of mods? Also emulation, have you heard of that before? Because any decent PC can emulate consoles up to the PS3, even the Wii U and nowadays the Switch too.

If a PC game has controller support, which is standard these days and has been since the x360/PS3 era it means you can play it as you would on consoles, with the ability to change resolution, framerate, graphical options like antialiasing, shadows, depth of field...

You sound like you're stuck 20 years in the past if not more, that's weird. PC players don't only play strategical games, and those even exist on consoles too more often than not, srsly.

I mean why would they buy a console that play PC game on tiny screen and controller when they can buy a fully functional PC and play it with both mouse/keyboard and controller.

People are only interested in console for exclusive, no one would buy a console JUST to play PC game.

fvig2001 · Aug 17, 2020

I'd be wary of this since given how much power it uses, the cooling would be a problem. I'd bet this would be like GPD Win 1 where it's fun to play the first 10 minutes and then it becomes hard to hold after that. If it has thunderbolt 3, I might get this instead of the GPD Win Max but it's their first product, so maybe on their 3rd generation.

GBADWB · Aug 17, 2020

fvig2001 said:
I'd be wary of this since given how much power it uses, the cooling would be a problem. I'd bet this would be like GPD Win 1 where it's fun to play the first 10 minutes and then it becomes hard to hold after that. If it has thunderbolt 3, I might get this instead of the GPD Win Max but it's their first product, so maybe on their 3rd generation.

TDP is measured in thermal watts(and not electrical watts). Both the 4500U in this aya-neo as well as the M3-7Y30 inside the GPDWin 2 are 15W TDP devices(not sure if the AYA-Neo is going to configure it to 12W or something because its not finalized yet). Visually speaking, the heatsink on the AYA-Neo seems to be larger than the GPDWin 2 so it should theoretically dissipate heat better.

Berkiel · Aug 17, 2020

SSG Vegeta said:
They're out of their minds if they think that anyone would want to spend $700

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The HP Envy Laptop has similar specs and cost more and it's hard to get because people are buying it like crazy, so don't speak for everyone when you have no clues, thanks.

anhminh said:
I mean why would they buy a console that play PC game on tiny screen and controller when they can buy a fully functional PC and play it with both mouse/keyboard and controller.

People are only interested in console for exclusive, no one would buy a console JUST to play PC game.

This a fully functional PC with 10 multipoints touch, WiFi 6, Bluetooth, 512GB of SSD storage. Also it's a handheld form factor, meaning it's like a Nintendo Switch you hold it in your hands, you play, no need to have it on a flat steady surface to sit in front of with a controller in your hands, except it can run any games.

If people were only interested in exclusives, game studios would long have stopped selling multiplatform games and there are much of those than there are exclusives, ask Microsoft, none of their games are consoles exclusives as they're also available on PC natively and on any devices with an internet access with Xcloud nowadays, also again, PC allows for emulation, I don't know what more to say honestly, there aren't any non-arguments you can make that wouldn't prove further it's a non discussion, you decided it's bad without even understanding the product, learn some stuff,

fvig2001 said:
I'd be wary of this since given how much power it uses, the cooling would be a problem. I'd bet this would be like GPD Win 1 where it's fun to play the first 10 minutes and then it becomes hard to hold after that. If it has thunderbolt 3, I might get this instead of the GPD Win Max but it's their first product, so maybe on their 3rd generation.

18 W is more than enough to run almost any games, that's not impossibe to keep cool, just takes thermal paste, copper, a fan and appropirately located vents, only poorly designed devices have overeheating issues. So I agree we'll have to see in the reviews that'll be available on YT when it'll be finished but I can tell you already from the screenshots posted on the Discord server,that it runs games like The Witcher 3 below 60°C at 30 FPS.
This is the latest AMD technology, this generation of Accelerated Processing Units have the Smartshift (also in PS5) technology that balances power usage between the CPU and the GPU automatically so that it doesn't waste power and create unnecessary heat, please don't compare this with some old gen device using Intel that, so far, are very less efficient in low wattage situations.
There's a reason manufacturers like Lenovo, Asus, HP, etc, etc... Are all making Renoir equipped laptops and the demand for those APUs is insane, because there are more efficient than anything we've ever seen before for very low power consumption.

Also, no Thunderbolt 3, this technology is very rare still for many reasons, I don't even think you can actually get it on AMD laptops of the highest cost, it takes 3 PCIe lanes and a module on the PCB that needs to be powered, 2017 articles mentions Intel dropped the royalties for it but it doesn't seem to be the case or it'd be more broadly available, it looks more like something that has so many constraints that you need to build your device around it, accept that you'll lose battery life for it, and that the the final product will be much more expensive for the consumer in the end. For what I understand from it, it'll be part of USB 4, so yeah, either buy an Intel Laptop (including Macbooks) or just wait for the technology to be more easy to implement, it's clearly not the case in 2020 in the world.

Deleted User · Aug 17, 2020

64bitmodels said:
SmachZ looks ugly as all hell, no thanks, il take this instead

Hey, what do you do of inner beauty ?

The steam controller always attracted me for some reason, don't you think it's daring on both design and mechanic ?

anhminh · Aug 17, 2020

Berkiel said:
This a fully functional PC with 10 multipoints touch, WiFi 6, Bluetooth, 512GB of SSD storage. Also it's a handheld form factor, meaning it's like a Nintendo Switch you hold it in your hands, you play, no need to have it on a flat steady surface to sit in front of with a controller in your hands, except it can run any games.

If people were only interested in exclusives, game studios would long have stopped selling multiplatform games and there are much of those than there are exclusives, ask Microsoft, none of their games are consoles exclusives as they're also available on PC natively and on any devices with an internet access with Xcloud nowadays, also again, PC allows for emulation, I don't know what more to say honestly, there aren't any non-arguments you can make that wouldn't prove further it's a non discussion, you decided it's bad without even understanding the product, learn some stuff,

This is not fully functional PC. Even mouse isn't accurate for aiming sometime and you say your big fat chicken tendy finger on tiny touch screen is more accurate? Also it have what? 20 button at max? Not enough to cover half of the short cut on normal keyboard. It is a fucking handheld that try to play PC game, it not a PC no matter what spec it got. The game it run would be design with mouse and keyboard most of the time so it just try to run something it not.

Also remind me how that work for Xbone on last gen? Being lack of exclusive and big first party tittle? Being a Steam Box now won't bring back its player base that they lost from the last gen. If exclusive isn't a big deal then PC master race wouldn't have to bend then back over to try and emulate console. They even have to deal with game breaking bug and shit on high end PC that cost them thousand dollars and yet they still want it. The best chance this "PC" got is it can at least run Wii U and Ps3 emulator or else it will just be another Steam box that no one want to talk about again.

GBADWB · Aug 17, 2020

anhminh said:
This is not fully functional PC. Even mouse isn't accurate for aiming sometime and you say your big fat chicken tendy finger on tiny touch screen is more accurate? Also it have what? 20 button at max? Not enough to cover half of the short cut on normal keyboard. It is a fucking handheld that try to play PC game, it not a PC no matter what spec it got. The game it run would be design with mouse and keyboard most of the time so it just try to run something it not.

Also remind me how that work for Xbone on last gen? Being lack of exclusive and big first party tittle? Being a Steam Box now won't bring back its player base that they lost from the last gen. If exclusive isn't a big deal then PC master race wouldn't have to bend then back over to try and emulate console. They even have to deal with game breaking bug and shit on high end PC that cost them thousand dollars and yet they still want it. The best chance this "PC" got is it can at least run Wii U and Ps3 emulator or else it will just be another Steam box that no one want to talk about again.

You are aware that even on the PC space, there are exclusives right. Most RTS and Mobas exist on the PC space, as well as half of the more popular MMO's are basically exclusively PC. Being able to emulate console exclusives is just icing on the cake.

There is always a subset of people who go for multiplat stuff and not for exclusives. By your logic, no one would be using linux for gaming, as there are a subset of games that work only for windows due to various reasons(launcher not being made for other OS, DRM, anti cheat) but linux gaming is actually growing on its own with the development of Proton.

64bitmodels · Aug 17, 2020

Torina said:
Hey, what do you do of inner beauty ?

The steam controller always attracted me for some reason, don't you think it's daring on both design and mechanic ?

i think its daring in the fact you wouldnt be able to play games with it
even the fucking gpd win max looks better, and the thing is so much bigger from its older counterparts it might as well be a fully fledged gaming laptop

Pickle_Rick · Aug 18, 2020

AkiraKurusu said:
Oh no. Ohhh noooooo.

They screwed up the buttons and the analog sticks, by copying Xbox. That's dumb, and alienates those who never use Xbox controllers.

Hey, Aya Neo, how about making a model with aligned analog sticks, and the (clockwise) XABY button layout? For those who grew up with Nintendo? Or, to aim towards PlayStation users, aligned sticks and Circle/Square/Triangle/Cross?
Something non-Xbox players can find comfortable and doesn't mess with their muscle memory?

Quite a large percentage of PC games only have button icons for Xbox controllers. Not to mention xinput is far better supported in PC games. (DualShock uses DirectInput.)

osaka35 · Aug 18, 2020

AMD 4500U? Not too shabby. Definitely not useless, but definitely niche.

ganons · Aug 18, 2020

Rail Fighter said:
I guess it's capable of running the Yuzu emulator.

Don't expect it to be amazing. I have an 4800U laptop, Zelda chokes hard. Mario Kart 8 gets about 40 FPS.

Cemu botw was quite disappointing, around 18fps

geargeeksp · Aug 18, 2020

ganons said:
Don't expect it to be amazing. I have an 4800U laptop, Zelda chokes hard. Mario Kart 8 gets about 40 FPS.

Cemu botw was quite disappointing, around 18fps

I think ur number sounds about right , but our screen is only 800p
so how about u change ur resolution from 1080p or 2.5k before talking about the speed?

Cheers

Lee

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ov3rkill said:
Jesus Christ! This is is faster than my potato PC. AMD is on a roll. Damn!

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Now imagine the next gen Ryzen 5k series APU. Hopefully, most of those games will be able to play at high settings. The future is bright for PC mobile gaming with AMD.

I think AMD is indeed on a roll here~

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tomhanks69 said:
*installs yuzu emulator on Aya-Neo*

some tested on their 4500u ~

and I don't think Nintendo will like the result like at ALL lol

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peteruk said:
They stated in a previous video that this is not the finished article and the buttons and build will change

It's purely a proto type so please reserve judgements on the design until it's official release

I really want one of these, will be super useful for me

I'm hoping they decide to add a hdmi out port OR enable usb-c to hdmi with power pass through

thx man, but u can just get a type-c to hdmi cable or get it docked lol like you know , on the switch ~

Hanafuda · Aug 18, 2020

I’m on my phone, not gonna read 7 pages to see if asked but, what’s the point of the detachable controls? Some Switch games make use of motion controls but when would it be thing for this?? Is it just to make it an even more blatant Switch tail-rider, or am I missing something?

And, why not just get a top shelf tablet and a good Bluetooth controller?? Just for more longterm reliable support, if nothing else.

Prans · Aug 18, 2020

Hanafuda said:
I’m on my phone, not gonna read 7 pages to see if asked but, what’s the point of the detachable controls? Some Switch games make use of motion controls but when would it be thing for this?? Is it just to make it an even more blatant Switch tail-rider, or am I missing something?

And, why not just get a top shelf tablet and a good Bluetooth controller?? Just for more longterm reliable support, if nothing else.

to double as a Windows tablet I presume. Although on the smaller side of the spectrum, it will still be pretty portable and offer full Windows features/apps.

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