[UPDATE] Epic Games to sue Apple and Google

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Following Apple's decision to pull Fortnite from its Apple Store, Epic Games announced that it will take legal action. Epic Games shared the news via the official Fortnite Twitter account:


“Epic brings this suit to end Apple’s unfair and anti-competitive actions that Apple undertakes to unlawfully maintain its monopoly in two distinct, multibillion dollar markets: (i) the iOS App Distribution Market, and (ii) the iOS In-App Payment Processing Market(each as defined below),” the lawsuit reads. “Epic is not seeking monetary compensation from this Court for the injuries it has suffered. Nor is Epic seeking favorable treatment for itself, a single company. Instead, Epic is seeking injunctive relief to allow fair competition in these two key markets that directly affect hundreds of millions of consumers and tens of thousands, if not more, of third-party app developers.”

You can read the complaint in its entirety in the source link below.

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UPDATE:

In response to Fortnite being taken down from the Google Play Store as well, Epic Games filed a lawsuit against against Google for antitrust violation.

:arrow: SOURCE
 
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Tell me if I got it wrong please
When an app is sold on the AppStore, Apple takes a 30% cut of the profit
When you buy something inside an app downloaded on AppStore, Apple takes a30% cut of the profit

Epic Games made its own microtransaction system so that they dont pay the 30% cut to Apple, right?
I got this right now?

Well... I just call what EG is doing unfair, right?
Because they are big, they shouldn't have to pay the cut? Is that it?
WTF is that? Another big company who thinks they are above everything?
 

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Tell me if I got it wrong please
When an app is sold on the AppStore, Apple takes a 30% cut of the profit
When you buy something inside an app downloaded on AppStore, Apple takes a30% cut of the profit

Epic Games made its own microtransaction system so that they dont pay the 30% cut to Apple, right?
I got this right now?

Well... I just call what EG is doing unfair, right?
Because they are big, they shouldn't have to pay the cut? Is that it?
WTF is that? Another big company who thinks they are above everything?

You got it wrong. Apple is the one who is not treating developers fairly. They never have.

It's anti-competitive bullshit that no one has had the guts to sue Apple for, because pissing off Apple means losing access to all iOS users as customers. I guess Epic is confident enough to fight this battle on behalf of everyone, probably because 1) Apple is already being investigated for anti-competitive behavior by congress and 2) Fortnite is so massively enormous that not even Apple would risk banning them from the app store for fear of losing customers.

Don't get me wrong: Apple is NOT the only tech giant guilty of anti-competitive practices, not by a long shot. But it doesn't really matter which one gets sued; as long as one of them does, it will create a legal precedent for future lawsuits against the others. I dislike Epic for a lot of reasons, but this right here is going to buy them a lot of good will from me, and likely a lot of other people.
 

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How long ago did it get taken off the app store? This is my first time hearing of it getting taken off, so I assume it was today.
 

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Tell me if I got it wrong please
When an app is sold on the AppStore, Apple takes a 30% cut of the profit
When you buy something inside an app downloaded on AppStore, Apple takes a30% cut of the profit

Epic Games made its own microtransaction system so that they dont pay the 30% cut to Apple, right?
I got this right now?

Well... I just call what EG is doing unfair, right?
Because they are big, they shouldn't have to pay the cut? Is that it?
WTF is that? Another big company who thinks they are above everything?
Well its not just about Epic, its about all companies. Should Epic alone be allowed to sell outside of the appstore? Of course not. Should ALL devs be allowed to though? Yes of course. Imagine if Microsoft made an official windows appstore and you werent allowed to sell outside of it, it doesnt just hurt big companies like Epic or Steam it affects everyone. If the court rules that Apple isnt allowed to force devs to sell through their store it will benefit all devs.
 

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If you take their statement at face value, and they actually pursue that specific cause, I am 100% behind Epic. I doubt they'll get anywhere, but if the end result is easy sideloading on iOS, that's the best possible outcome.

If Microsoft got called out for monopolistic practices in the '90s for including a web browser, "walled garden" ecosystems on general-purpose devices like smartphones should also fall under scrutiny.
 
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Since Google removed their app is Epic gonna sue them too? Don't think they can handle lawsuits against two giants.

Edit: looks like Epic knew Apple was gonna remove their app and was prepared to sue Apple all along, even made it some sort of "movement," but then Google also booted their app so idk how their plan is going
 
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2 vs 1 Smackdown!

But seriously, I doubt they are going to sue at the same time and only will sue Google, if they win against Apple. Of course, I could be wrong.
 

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They probably wouldnt need to have big lawsuits against both anyway. If Epic won against Apple then any court would uphold the set precedent towards Google as well.
 

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either way i hope apple loses, purely so they start bleeding money
I hate monopolies with a burning passion, and apple has a giant monopoly on the tech market, which is... just stupid, especially for how much theyve been harming it (yeah lets kill headphone jacks and chargers, yay!!!)
 
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Well its not just about Epic, its about all companies. Should Epic alone be allowed to sell outside of the appstore? Of course not. Should ALL devs be allowed to though? Yes of course. Imagine if Microsoft made an official windows appstore and you werent allowed to sell outside of it, it doesnt just hurt big companies like Epic or Steam it affects everyone. If the court rules that Apple isnt allowed to force devs to sell through their store it will benefit all devs.
Okay now i get it, thanks for the explanations
 

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Apple and gaming don't mix, who buys their overpriced garbage just to play games? Also Fortnite is overrated as hell, so I see no loss.
Enough people that gaming on mobile is still a feasible and profitable thing.

I mean, I understand your point and I also am not into mobile gaming at all, but just pointing out the technicality here.
 

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