Nintendo leaks continue, this time featuring N64 development repositories and source codes

FanofFans · Jul 27, 2020

MikaDubbz said:
It's a handheld in the sense that it's a handheld device. It has a great little dock that comes with it that you can pop it in and bam its on your TV, making it playable just like a home console. Hence the label of a hyrbid, which is truly what it is. Again, I'm not arguing about perception of how we each view the system, I'm arguing about the true nature of what the device really is, and scoffing at the idea that Nintendo is trying to dupe anyone into thinking that the device is strictly a home console.

But again, there is no "true nature". You're not listening. It is about how it's viewed.

MikaDubbz · Jul 27, 2020

FanofFans said:
But again, there is no "true nature". You're not listening. It is about how it's viewed.

Yeah, there is, it's a device that can be played portably or on your TV, there is no denying that (unless you're looking at the Lite which can only be played on the go). You seem to think my argument is about how we each perceive the device, when my only argument has been how stupid it is to believe that Nintendo is trying to trick anyone into thinking the device is strictly a home console. It is a hybrid, it can be played at home or on the go, you can choose to do one exclusively, but that doesn't negate the fact that it can still do the other. And that is supposed to be the big draw of the device (and it is a big draw, it's a brilliant idea that clearly has a lot of demand). That doesn't mean someone is wrong to only play it portably or only on the big screen. It simply means that there is no intent by Nintendo to try and 'pass off a handheld as a home console'. The intent is to sell a hybrid portable and that's exactly what they've been doing since day one.

I love how you seem to ignore the whole point that the first guy was trying to make that Nintendo is trying to trick anyone with the nature of the device, when that has been the entire crux of my argument from the start here.

FanofFans · Jul 27, 2020

MikaDubbz said:
Yeah, there is, it's a device that can be played portably or on your TV, there is no denying that (unless you're looking at the Lite which can only be played on the go). You seem to think my argument is about how we each perceive the device, when my only argument has been how stupid it is to believe that Nintendo is trying to trick anyone into thinking the device is strictly a home console. It is a hybrid, it can be played at home or on the go, you can choose to do one exclusively, but that doesn't negate the fact that it can still do the other. And that is supposed to be the big draw of the device (and it is a big draw, it's a brilliant idea that clearly has a lot of demand). That doesn't mean someone is wrong to only play it portably or only on the big screen. It simply means that there is no intent by Nintendo to try and 'pass off a handheld as a home console'. The intent is to sell a hybrid portable and that's exactly what they've been doing since day one.

I love how you seem to ignore the whole point that the first guy was trying to make that Nintendo is trying to trick anyone with the nature of the device, when that has been the entire crux of my argument from the start here.

Wait how is anyone trying to trick anyone? If they're marketing it as a console, I mean, technically, it can be referred to as such. I find your inability to look outside your own bias frustrating to say the least. It's a hybrid, sure, but it's also a console, and it's also a handheld. If one chooses to call it one or the other, fine. Its definition is far more flexible than say arguing that a rock is a rock, vs a rock is a lantern. That is black and white. This is not. It's not one-or-the-other, it's a hybrid, I agree. But it is also a console, and it is also a handheld. Why must there be such an argument over something so juvenile, which doesn't even really matter?

MikaDubbz · Jul 27, 2020

FanofFans said:
Wait how is anyone trying to trick anyone? If they're marketing it as a console, I mean, technically, it can be referred to as such. I find your inability to look outside your own bias frustrating to say the least. It's a hybrid, sure, but it's also a console, and it's also a handheld. If one chooses to call it one or the other, fine. Its definition is far more flexible than say arguing that a rock is a rock, vs a rock is a lantern. That is black and white. This is not. It's not one-or-the-other, it's a hybrid, I agree. But it is also a console, and it is also a handheld. Why must there be such an argument over something so juvenile, which doesn't even really matter?

Exactly!! You're finally starting to understand what I was arguing against to begin with! They aren't trying to trick anyone, but that guy I quoted sure was implying that Nintendo is trying to trick us.

Joom · Jul 27, 2020

Goku1992A said:
How benefical are these "leaks" I thought we already have good up and running emulators for the N64. Android N64 emulator works amazing and so does PC. I honestly don't think this is really going to help make native ports because I doubt devs are going to be messing with legal code and etc risking a lawsuit. I also thought we already have N64 on retroarch it runs fairly decent so am I missing something here?

Uh, N64 emulation is very far from being good. Playable and "good" are two different things when it comes to emulation. Current emulators are still really inaccurate, and graphics development is still a ways off. There are still games that can't be emulated, so yeah, you're missing the point here.

Goku1992A said:
Also for the argument above yes if the switch was my only device I would feel duped too. The best thing I can say is just don't complain too much and just pirate all the games you can.

Lulwut...

FanofFans · Jul 27, 2020

MikaDubbz said:
Exactly!! You're finally starting to understand what I was arguing against to begin with! They aren't trying to trick anyone, but that guy I quoted sure was implying that Nintendo is trying to trick us.

Smh. Nintendo's not trying to trick anybody. You sound like a conspiracy theorist. They market it as a console, then fine. That's technically what it is. Stop trying to make an argument and complain about something that isn't even there.

MikaDubbz · Jul 27, 2020

FanofFans said:
Smh. Nintendo's not trying to trick anybody. You sound like a conspiracy theorist. They market it as a console, then fine. That's technically what it is. Stop trying to make an argument and complain about something that isn't even there.

I AGREE! That's what I've been saying this whole time. I'm not the conspiracy nut, I was calling out the conspiracy nut to begin with, but then you retaliated against me calling him out for some reason which led us down this whole path. I genuinely wonder if you've been reading my entire posts and that quote that I quoted that started this whole thing or if you've just been skimming. Even now it reads like you think I'm the one that was claiming Nintendo was trying to trick anyone. When this whole time that's exactly what I've been arguing against.

Joom · Jul 27, 2020

MikaDubbz said:
I AGREE! That's what I've been saying this whole time. I'm not the conspiracy nut, I was calling out the conspiracy nut to begin with, but then you retaliated against me calling him out for some reason which led us down this whole path. I genuinely wonder if you've been reading my entire posts and that quote that I quoted that started this whole thing or if you've just been skimming. Even now it reads like you think I'm the one that was claiming Nintendo was trying to trick anyone. When this whole time that's exactly what I've been arguing against.

This is another problem on this site. People cherry pick and take things entirely out of context so that they can seem like they are some virtuous genius on the subject they shoehorn themselves into. I think half this site is populated with narcissists and egomaniacs all just stroking themselves.

Vancete · Jul 27, 2020

Any Pokemon source code leak? That would be useful heh

Joom · Jul 27, 2020

Vancete said:
Any Pokemon source code leak? That would be useful heh

There were leaks for Diamond and Pearl in the other leak.

Vancete · Jul 27, 2020

Joom said:
There were leaks for Diamond and Pearl in the other leak.

Hmmm time to look for it, thanks :grog:

ghostbit · Jul 27, 2020

MikaDubbz said:
In what world do you live in where the Switch is considered a console over a handheld? What the hell would that make the Switch Lite? I think part of the reason the Switch has sold as well as it has despite being so underpowered compared to what Sony and Microsoft have to offer for their consoles, is because most people recognize that the Switch is a powerful handheld that just so happens to also be playable on your TV.

The entire intended appeal of the switch was supposed to be the concept of a 'console/handheld fusion'.

Both fans and then stockholders speculated about this as an amazing forward-thinking idea for nintendo's next console during the wii u era, when people began to see the potential behind an idea like that, so much so that it seemed nearly the only possible way to move forward and innovate from that point.

Switch technically fulfills this, but in the laziest way possible, to the point that there was no benefit to the console side. So at the end of the day it's just, as you said, a high-powered handheld.

But it was supposed to be so much more.

Silent_Gunner · Jul 27, 2020

I like how there's this big massive leak for these old games with legacies, and everyone's getting into a busy argument about what the Switch is.

What's next? Are we going to define what a true Nintendo fan is? Which Nintendo console makes you hard for it? Or the girlfriends you guys could have and be spending time with if you weren't acting like manchildren?

How about we talk about some of the findings from this leak as opposed to what ultimately boils down to an e-dick measurement competition? XD

SG911 · Jul 27, 2020

Chary said:
A direct source/download link to the contents of this leak cannot be shared, as they are warez.

Can they be PM'd tho? o.o

MikaDubbz · Jul 27, 2020

ghostbit said:
The entire intended appeal of the switch was supposed to be the concept of a 'console/handheld fusion'.

Both fans and then stockholders speculated about this as an amazing forward-thinking idea for nintendo's next console during the wii u era, when people began to see the potential behind an idea like that, so much so that it seemed nearly the only possible way to move forward and innovate from that point.

Switch technically fulfills this, but in the laziest way possible, to the point that there was no benefit to the console side. So at the end of the day it's just, as you said, a high-powered handheld.

But it was supposed to be so much more.

Exactly, Nintendo isn't trying to trick anyone into thinking it's strictly a home console. It's a hybrid portable gaming device that just so happens to be able to played on your TV like a home console. There is no right or wrong way to play the device, but this idea that Nintendo was trying to hide the fact that it's a portable system behind the veil of being a home console just isn't the reality of the situation. It was never going to compete in power with the likes of the Xbone or PS4 simply by the very nature of what the device has always been and was always meant to be.

Silent_Gunner · Jul 27, 2020

ghostbit said:
The entire intended appeal of the switch was supposed to be the concept of a 'console/handheld fusion'.

Both fans and then stockholders speculated about this as an amazing forward-thinking idea for nintendo's next console during the wii u era, when people began to see the potential behind an idea like that, so much so that it seemed nearly the only possible way to move forward and innovate from that point.

Switch technically fulfills this, but in the laziest way possible, to the point that there was no benefit to the console side. So at the end of the day it's just, as you said, a high-powered handheld.

But it was supposed to be so much more.

You want something that's "so much more?" Get any dead end job (they'll hire a fucking cat if it walked into an HR department), and start making some money to get a GPD WIN Max to play "everything" on the go.

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SG911 said:
Can they be PM'd tho? o.o

Don't count on it.

Joom · Jul 27, 2020

Silent_Gunner said:
I like how there's this big massive leak for these old games with legacies, and everyone's getting into a busy argument about what the Switch is.

What's next? Are we going to define what a true Nintendo fan is? Which Nintendo console makes you hard for it? Or the girlfriends you guys could have and be spending time with if you weren't acting like manchildren?

How about we talk about some of the findings from this leak as opposed to what ultimately boils down to an e-dick measurement competition? XD

None of the people here know what they're even looking at in these leaks. It's why they're still hung up on the emulation question. It's not like there's really much to be said anyway as these leaks are essentially useless, and only really serve as a novelty collector's piece.

Helmax · Jul 27, 2020

Read through 12 pages of pointless arguments to find 1 video of the Luigi model, in the PC port of Mario 64.

Can we expect anything else from this dump or is that it?

Joom · Jul 27, 2020

Helmax said:
Read through 12 pages of pointless arguments to find 1 video of the Luigi model, in the PC port of Mario 64.

Can we expect anything else from this dump or is that it?

Read the post above yours.

The Real Jdbye · Jul 27, 2020

FanofFans said:
Clearly it all comes down to perception. I would argue that the original switch, it could go either way. If someone uses theirs primarily as a handheld, then to them, it's likely a handheld. If another person uses theirs in docked mode primarily, they probably see it as a console. This isn't something that's set in stone, and one thing or the other. The lite is clearly a handheld, of course, (but even then I've known people to call handheld systems, "consoles", as it's their tool that they play with. Definitions vary, even though I wouldn't consider the 3DS, for example, a console, and I think most of us would refer to it as a handheld - but that nuanced example aside) I think that especially when it comes to something as abstract as something that can be docked and undocked, I think objectively, there's no one correct answer or the other. It's all about perception, how you play it, etc. And for you to say that one is "clearly not correct" for a device that can be docked and undocked, that shows more about your arrogance and immaturity than it does of your intelligence.

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