FUNILLY ENOUGH, I havent called another person a nazi, because they disagreed with my position, but because
- they tried over three pages to find a reason, why behavior would be motivated by genetic traits (phenotype would determine genotype)
- after jumping in to defend a dude, that wanted to compare black people with bulldogs
- they did it derogatively ('what if black people are more aggressive', 'black people have a higher divorce rate (what), because they are on welfare (what)?
- they misrepresented my standpoint three times in a row, and tried to end the argument on antogonizing something I hadnt said - and blamed it on difficulties in understanding
- then they cited Victor Mendel, trying to construct, that race is a genetic concept primarily
- then they tried to misconstrue reality, by stating that anyone who would believe that race is a social construct would be a flat earther, while its actually the mainstream scientific position today.
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and all of that - combined, is how Neonazis recruit on the internet today - if you find unfair, that you cant use Mendels theories, to construct a world view, where race is based on genes, and responsible for 'problematic behavioral traits' -
you are a Nazi. By definition.
Also I have to hit FGFlan in the face, because he used the movie Freaks to emotionally defend Nazi ideology. Thats a mindf*ck I havent come across on the internet yet.
If you find all of this so toxic, and would rather discuss taboo Nazi ideology in this forum for ages, and then denounce people that tell you the mainstream science position of the day - please move over to 4chan today. I will suckepunch a dude (rhetorically), that tries to spread Neonazi recruitement tech in this forum.
Everytime.
None of us. (As long as they want to popularize that view.)
Also, Mendelian genetics played a role in debates over racial ideology— especially about policy relating to miscegenation—within the Nazi regime. However, in the decades preceding Hitler’s rise to power, many German racial theorists had synthesized Gobineau, Mendel, and antisemitism with social Darwinism. Nazi racial theory generally embraced this synthesis. Racial thinkers, such as Ludwig Woltmann and Ludwig Schemann, had synthesized Gobineau and Darwin long before Hitler.15 The leading anthropologist Eugen Fischer and the geneticist Fritz Lenz, both influential figures in racial science during the Nazi period, embraced both Gobineau and Darwinism. Hans-Walter Schmuhl perceptively notes that despite some contradictions between Gobineau’s racism and social Darwinism, “Nonetheless toward the end of the nineteenth century formulations of Gobineauism and social Darwinism blended into syncretistic racial theories.”16 Some leading antisemitic thinkers in early twentieth-century Germany, such as Theodor Fritsch and Willibald Hentschel, incorporated Darwinism into antisemitic ideology.17 Thus, many Nazi racial theorists interpreted the opposition between the Nordic and Jewish race as an episode in the Darwinian struggle for existence.
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I believe, the following also - verbatim - was one of the arguments UltraDolphinRevolution made in here (when he tried to argue, why 'racial breeding' (isolation), and selection biases had been in place to form very distinct genetic races as well which would be why you could compare black people to pitbulls - his words, not mine.):
Heberer was a pivotal figure in Germany in the development of the neo-Darwinian synthesis, the theory that synthesized Darwinian evolution with Mendelian genetics while rejecting Lamarckism. He edited what some historians consider the most important work on evolutionary theory during the Nazi period, Die Evolution der Organismen (1943). Four of the eighteen essays were on human evolution by the anthropologists Christian von Krogh, Wilhelm Gieseler, Reche, and Weinert (all but Reche were in the SS). Gieseler’s contribution to Heberer’s anthology was on “The Fossil History of Humans.” His vision of evolutionary history was consistent with the newly forming neo-Darwinian synthesis, since he explained that the most important mechanisms of evolution were mutations, selection, and isolation.44
src:
https://www.csustan.edu/sites/defau.../Weikart/Darwinism-in-Nazi-Racial-Thought.pdf
edit2: UltraDolphinRevolution then furthermore suggested, that he would be fine with extreme forms of Social-Darwinism ('its ok, if even 70% of students in Harvard are asian') because he saw that as a 'natural struggle between races', coincidentally with his own race 'winning'. And explicitly, that he found it outrageous, even unfair, to stop that 'social darwinist selection' by maintaining some form of racial diversity (that f.e. would represent people based on demographics, instead of just fostering 'a master race') in your highest educational institutions. All that - Nazi ideology as well.
THE ONLY other argument UltraDolphinRevolution allowed for, despite something being 'racially determined, genetically', was not circumstance, living conditions, economic outlook, historical perspective, or lack of role models, not - it was "family education". Nazi ideology.
I think you could get the pattern by now...
But calling them a Nazi is unfair, because you dont do it? Thats cancel culture at its finest.
Dumb, doctrinistic, ideology driven, and against using words, because words are so hurtful.
Pronouncing something toxic all the time yourself because thats considered 'a good word', even you shut down arguments with it all the time, without any reason given.
