New "Poketoon" short animation takes inspiration from classic Golden Age era cartoons

codezer0 · Jun 7, 2020

raxadian said:
I honesty don't understand why they keep Ash.

The most popular character is Pikachu, not him.

And as series targeted for kids it definitely has gotten way too long.

Ash Ketchum is literally Satoshi Tajiri's self-insert, the way that Bella from Twilight is Stephanie Meyer's self-insert.

Unfortunately, nothing in Pokemon changes without Tajiri's blessing, because that jerk's ego would dwarf the milky way. Combined with the utter laziness of Game Freak's primary dev team. So far, it's clear all the talent and ability to get games done is on the side team for Game Freak.

While I don't care for MatPat (of the Youtube channel Game Theory), he actually slugged it out and went on to watch all episodes until the Sun and Moon series to try and figure out Ash's true age. As of the start of that series, he's now 20 years old. And yet he is still a flat-planed imbecile. And unlike Goku of Dragon ball, Ash is not the kind of flat character that at least makes those around him better. If anything, many of the recurring characters are worse off for following that moron. Why? for nothing other than to stroke Tajiri's colossal ego.

HarveyHouston · Jun 7, 2020

I have expressed my hatred towards Pokemon various times, but I have to say that this is actually very well done. In fact, it may be the ONLY Pokemon-related thing I have liked thus so far. Then again, I'm a big Looney Tunes fan, and I also am looking to get Cuphead on my Switch Lite, soooo... enough said.

RedBlueGreen · Jun 7, 2020

Never saw myself saying this, but Scraggy looks like a penis in this.

codezer0 said:
Ash Ketchum is literally Satoshi Tajiri's self-insert, the way that Bella from Twilight is Stephanie Meyer's self-insert.

Unfortunately, nothing in Pokemon changes without Tajiri's blessing, because that jerk's ego would dwarf the milky way. Combined with the utter laziness of Game Freak's primary dev team. So far, it's clear all the talent and ability to get games done is on the side team for Game Freak.

While I don't care for MatPat (of the Youtube channel Game Theory), he actually slugged it out and went on to watch all episodes until the Sun and Moon series to try and figure out Ash's true age. As of the start of that series, he's now 20 years old. And yet he is still a flat-planed imbecile. And unlike Goku of Dragon ball, Ash is not the kind of flat character that at least makes those around him better. If anything, many of the recurring characters are worse off for following that moron. Why? for nothing other than to stroke Tajiri's colossal ego.

If we're going by how many regions, I think he'd be closer to 16. A special episode (I think it was Ash's birthday) said they had been traveling around Kanto for a year. Johto presumably took the same (maybe more), Hoenn was around 10 months, not sure about the others. But it takes about a year and canon for Ash to qualify and compete in the conferences. So it's likely the same for at the very least the other regions. Six regions before Alola, so his "real age" is 16 or so by Sun and Moon if we're using the time for each region actually explained in series and not "The series has been airing for x years so Ash's age is 10+x".

The real answer is he's 10 because that's his canon age, and they don't age him because they want him to be around the age of the target demographic, which is kids, so they made him 10 to appeal to kids.

Pipistrele · Jun 7, 2020

Goku1992A said:
This is why Pokemon is going to die because of the way they do things. The Anime is lame and the games are repetitive.

I've heard this sentiment again and again since 2009, and franchise is only getting bigger, so I don't know about that.

Hells Malice · Jun 7, 2020

Veho said:
The original demographic has moved on and a very small minority is still interested in Pokemon. Their aim is to attract new fans, while creating content for their majority userbase, which are kids. "Growing up with the fanbase" has ruined many franchises and media.
Nintendo could run a parallel project aimed at the older fans but their main projects will always be for kids.

They definitely tried to flesh out the competitive side of pokemon, just for the kids i'm sure.

Pokemon would be -very- easy to balance for both kids AND adults with difficulty options. They're trying to target their older fanbase they're just not sure how.

sj33 · Jun 7, 2020

Misread this as 'golden axe cartoons' and got excited.

raxadian · Jun 7, 2020

sj33 said:
Misread this as 'golden axe cartoons' and got excited.

I loved the first two games.

They definitely should do new Golden Axe game someday.

64bitmodels · Jun 7, 2020

raxadian said:
I loved the first two games.

They definitely should do new Golden Axe game someday.

They did streets of rage, don't see why they wouldnt do golden axe as well

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HeartfeltDesu · Jun 8, 2020

Now this, this is beautiful.

windmill · Jun 8, 2020

looks better than anything from gen 8

SANIC · Jun 8, 2020

RedBlueGreen said:
Never saw myself saying this, but Scraggy looks like a penis in this.

If we're going by how many regions, I think he'd be closer to 16. A special episode (I think it was Ash's birthday) said they had been traveling around Kanto for a year. Johto presumably took the same (maybe more), Hoenn was around 10 months, not sure about the others. But it takes about a year and canon for Ash to qualify and compete in the conferences. So it's likely the same for at the very least the other regions. Six regions before Alola, so his "real age" is 16 or so by Sun and Moon if we're using the time for each region actually explained in series and not "The series has been airing for x years so Ash's age is 10+x".

The real answer is he's 10 because that's his canon age, and they don't age him because they want him to be around the age of the target demographic, which is kids, so they made him 10 to appeal to kids.

The Kanto episode said they had been traveling for a few months in the JP version, and Ash celebrated his birthday in SM anime so he's 11 now

XBzombieMan1337 · Jun 8, 2020

This is cool to see for a Pokemon short! Being a fan of the classic cartoons and Pokemon just makes this perfect!

DJPlace · Jun 8, 2020

now we need CUPHEAD meets Pokemon.

Crazystato · Jun 8, 2020

Is that Foreskinimon

Tigran · Jun 8, 2020

codezer0 said:
As of the start of that series, he's now 20 years old. And yet he is still a flat-planed imbecile

Bart mofher hugging Simpson.

tivu100 · Jun 8, 2020

Goku1992A said:
I may sound like the bad guy but we don't need this at all. Just give us a full fledged pokemon twilight series. They get over 1 million views per episode so it is obviously popular why waste time on this when they can make a full fledged series to promote their game more.

Honestly really they should have made the series and then pushed out the game after their sales would have maybe triple or quadrupled.

The Ash/Satoshi series got stuck in the vicious forever young loop, because the maker try to keep it going for younger kids. Perhaps, if they can keep up this toon version, as platform for introducing new Pokemon, the older fans can get something new for the main series?

Goku1992A · Jun 8, 2020

tivu100 said:
The Ash/Satoshi series got stuck in the vicious forever young loop, because the maker try to keep it going for younger kids. Perhaps, if they can keep up this toon version, as platform for introducing new Pokemon, the older fans can get something new for the main series?

I'm not sure I personally saw season 1 -3 (Kanto/Jhoto/Hoen) Ash was always a lame character I always liked Brock he is a PG version of Miroku from Inuyasha (If you watched that before) Almost evrey chareter was more interesting than the bland character "Ash" They need a mature version of pokemon I think Twilight Wings covers it but it is too short and everything is mostly fillers.

KingVamp · Jun 8, 2020

DJPlace said:
now we need CUPHEAD meets Pokemon.

Considering some of the entries in the Pokedex, that can get creepy pretty fast.

RedBlueGreen · Jun 9, 2020

Goku1992A said:
I may sound like the bad guy but we don't need this at all. Just give us a full fledged pokemon twilight series. They get over 1 million views per episode so it is obviously popular why waste time on this when they can make a full fledged series to promote their game more.

Honestly really they should have made the series and then pushed out the game after their sales would have maybe triple or quadrupled.

I'm sure if the official channel started uploading the main anime it would get that many views as well.

JavaScribe · Jun 9, 2020

KingVamp said:
I meant fps.

This is animated at 24 FPS. Apparently, anime is usually animated at 12 or 8 FPS, with frames being repeated two or three times (sometimes with camera trickery involving cels).

So... yes. It is a higher framerate.

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