Hacking Sx Core and Sx Lite , test Units Received

S_Sustain · Jun 8, 2020

Astur_torque said:
I'm don'0t think is that difficult if you have the proper tools.. a nice JBC soldering iron and 1mm or smaller tip, flux and tin

I've been practicing a bit more with a cheap temp controlled iron and a soldering practice board. Tried an 0.2mm tip but didn't really get on with it. The top 3mm of the tip never gets up to temperature, so I switched back to a 1mm tip and it was loads better. Did a pretty decent job of soldering/desoldering some 0402 resistors, so I'm feeling fairly confident. Using plenty of MG Chem. Liquid flux and some 0.6mm solder and it hasn't given me any problems at 300c. Always open to advice though if any of this sounds like a bad idea.

matias3ds · Jun 8, 2020

Astur_torque said:
I'm don'0t think is that difficult if you have the proper tools.. a nice JBC soldering iron and 1mm or smaller tip, flux and tin

The solder part wasnt hard with the tools i bought , i did a mistake when i purchase a magnifying glass that has only 3x zoom and the glass is to thin , so i canberly see what i was soldering .
i would dare to do it again if i can get a better magnifying glass or microscope ,, and if i have the concept ( because i dont know how ) to replace capacitors 0201 , i think ive burned or broke one of them . But as my magnifyng glass is a poor quality one , i cant see if the silver part to solder at the left or right are still there

S_Sustain · Jun 8, 2020

matias3ds said:
The solder part wasnt hard with the tools i bought , i did a mistake when i purchase a magnifying glass that has only 3x zoom and the glass is to thin , so i canberly see what i was soldering .
i would dare to do it again if i can get a better magnifying glass or microscope ,, and if i have the concept ( because i dont know how ) to replace capacitors 0201 , i think ive burned or broke one of them . But as my magnifyng glass is a poor quality one , i cant see if the silver part to solder at the left or right are still there

Are those components below the chips 0201s then? Holy shit if so. I need more practice.

matias3ds · Jun 8, 2020

S_Sustain said:
Are those components below the chips 0201s then? Holy shit if so. I need more practice.

No you actually sold the flex to the capacitors left and right for one cap and left and right for another one .

MrSandstorm · Jun 8, 2020

Astur_torque said:
I'm don'0t think is that difficult if you have the proper tools.. a nice JBC soldering iron and 1mm or smaller tip, flux and tin

JBC is quite the overkill here, their cheapest station is over 10x the price of the modchip. They're great tools, but only worth their (quite absurd) price tags if you're using them to make money AND routinely working on solder joints that require very high capacity heater+tip, like heat sinks, high current connectors or PCBs with large ground planes.

The TS100 or one of those STM32-based stations with T12 tips are more than enough for the task here. I think even those cheap Hakko 936 clones would work fine as long as you have a decent quality tip on them.

Deleted member 510354 · Jun 8, 2020

Dgchips has SX Core/Lite in stock now and sells them for 160,50€

JonJaded · Jun 8, 2020

Karlingen said:
Dgchips has SX Core/Lite in stock now and sells them for 160,50€

Thats an insane price. Don't even bother.

agpixel · Jun 8, 2020

x*cuter-sxdotcom said I will be refunded but i'm not, and now they don't answer my emails

Astur_torque · Jun 8, 2020

MrSandstorm said:
JBC is quite the overkill here, their cheapest station is over 10x the price of the modchip. They're great tools, but only worth their (quite absurd) price tags if you're using them to make money AND routinely working on solder joints that require very high capacity heater+tip, like heat sinks, high current connectors or PCBs with large ground planes.

The TS100 or one of those STM32-based stations with T12 tips are more than enough for the task here. I think even those cheap Hakko 936 clones would work fine as long as you have a decent quality tip on them.

Of course you are not gonna buy a new JBC joldering iron for this, I mean this is if you want a soldering iron that lasts lifelong (And you don't even need a station. just a 14ST. I haven't tried TS100 but definitely JBC are worth after trying some shity soldering irons

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Karlingen said:
Dgchips has SX Core/Lite in stock now and sells them for 160,50€

They can put them into their arse at that price

S_Sustain · Jun 8, 2020

matias3ds said:
No you actually sold the flex to the capacitors left and right for one cap and left and right for another one .

Yep, but are the caps 0402s, or 0201s?

Size Length (mm) Width (mm)
0201 0.60x0.30
0402 1.00 0.50

I'm just trying to get a sense of scale.

xadra · Jun 8, 2020

Karlingen said:
Dgchips has SX Core/Lite in stock now and sells them for 160,50€

I have seen the same price in other oficial resellers.

For what I understand the resellers are bumping up the price (up to~150-200) until TX starts sending the chips (it's believe to be very soon). So I expect they lower the price once they filled the pre-orders batch.

I recommend waiting a couple of weeks, I'm pretty sure the price is going to return to the normal price (~60).

matias3ds · Jun 8, 2020

Karlingen said:
Dgchips has SX Core/Lite in stock now and sells them for 160,50€

On AliExpress any product has increase the shipment fee 45 use approximately , for the flights cancelled between USA and China . And that affected on other countries as Argentina

R23D2 · Jun 8, 2020

how can they sell chips when they are not even out? they clearly state on their website dgchips. high risk etc bla bla. that means they are not yet in germany? otherwise it would be an easy sent to germany, belgium netherlands, spain italy etc.
or do they try to sell them directly from china so whereever it needs to be? to me it seems very fishy at the moment.

semzorro · Jun 8, 2020

any news?

vvaitforme · Jun 8, 2020

spielking in stock
US$ 59.27
elewelt in stock
€ 51.99
teamxecutersx in stock
51,99 €

Astur_torque · Jun 8, 2020

and txswitch? it costs less than 50 euros

MrSandstorm · Jun 8, 2020

Astur_torque said:
Of course you are not gonna buy a new JBC joldering iron for this, I mean this is if you want a soldering iron that lasts lifelong (And you don't even need a station. just a 14ST. I haven't tried TS100 but definitely JBC are worth after trying some shity soldering irons

I see what you mean, and yeah, it's definitely worth investing a little more to get an iron that actually helps you do the job instead of just being a constant headache.

I also didn't realize you were talking about JBC's "classic" irons, sorry. ~50USD for a simple thermally balanced iron is quite stiff, though, and JBC's classic irons don't have those cartridge stile tips you'd find in their stations, so I'd still go with the TS100 or a STM32-based station. Same price range but you get temperature control, cartridge stile tips, sleep mode to help preserve those tips and a quite a bit more brawn (65W for the TS100 and up to 120W for the STM32 stations depending on the specific model).

This actually got me curious. How would a thermally balanced iron from a top brand like JBC perform compared to stuff from "cheaper" brands that have temp control. Anyone here with that kind of experience?

Patison · Jun 8, 2020

agpixel said:
x*cuter-sxdotcom said I will be refunded but i'm not, and now they don't answer my emails

Same here, got the email confirmation a few days ago but still no refund.

agpixel · Jun 8, 2020

Patison said:
Same here, got the email confirmation a few days ago but still no refund.

Either they lie to not have legal proceedings. Either there is just a delay because we are a lot

nero99 · Jun 8, 2020

vvaitforme said:
spielking in stock
US$ 59.27
elewelt in stock
€ 51.99
teamxecutersx in stock
51,99 €

Except they’re not in stock. Sx core and lite haven’t been shipped to resellers yet. Pretty sure that’s the preorder like everywhere else.

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