SX OS v3.0.0 update leaked ahead of official release

nikeymikey · May 31, 2020

I might be wrong but i get the feeling both Mike and Michael have some vendetta against TX....

DbGt · May 31, 2020

tech3475 said:
Well maybe not for those who want open source versions and don't care about SXOS.

But at the end you still need a specialized modchip, and you can load any CFW with Tx`s modchip, so i dont completely see your point.... you can still load you open source CFW if you wanted to.

As for an open source modchip, i dont really know how that could work, and probably will take months to develop one at the very least.
We already have a high quality modchip designed by the very team that developed this achievement, I would feel more confident using their product.

MK73DS · May 31, 2020

nikeymikey said:
I might be wrong but i get the feeling both Mike and Michael have some vendetta against TX....

They support piracy and do illegal stuff (like using Nintendo keys), so I understand. I don't like TX neither.

wurstpistole · May 31, 2020

JoeBloggs777 said:
Yes those were the days, some computers shows here in the UK had people who would mod your console while you waited The shop that fitted my kids RGH in their Xbox 360's years ago are still in business here in the UK, they still fit 360 mods and repair consoles, so if I ever buy my kids a patched switch I'll see if they will fit the TX mod.

I guess they would install it, but not provide the chip itself.
That's what I meant with convenience... had this mod shop here in the country where I would just ship my PS2 (later PS3) to and get it back modded and working, even could buy a pre-modded console directly from them... just checked their website, company name has changed and they do smartphone repairs now

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JoeBloggs777 · May 31, 2020

nikeymikey said:
I might be wrong but i get the feeling both Mike and Michael have some vendetta against TX....

they were upset because TX originally used their code and added features to it over time, thou Michael has praised TX a couple of times ( I think when TX used their own code because they didn't have the keys to use Sept and now with this Mod)

altorn · May 31, 2020

JoeBloggs777 said:
yes, but a weak one, it's not long ago certain people were saying TX had nothing, how wrong they were

from what i understood: hexkyz said late last year that if TX would have a solution, it would be the brute force one, which requires them to repeatedly glitch out the boot until their custom bootloader can take over. TX are able to do it because it's the pirate way and with modchips involved. others can't because there's no open source/legal way (for now).

JoeBloggs777 · May 31, 2020

MK73DS said:
They support piracy and do illegal stuff (like using Nintendo keys), so I understand. I don't like TX neither.

many people use Atmos for illegal stuff to, maybe SciresM could prevent Atmos running pirated games, upto now many people are still using it for that.

maybe TX is like marmite , you love it or hate it, no in btw. I bought 2 Gateway cards for the 3DS years ago and my kids had many years of use out of them, just as they've had nearly 2 years of use out of the SX Pro I bought.

love or hate them they were first with many features on the 3DS and Switch.

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altorn said:
from what i understood: hexkyz said late last year that if TX would have a solution, it would be the brute force one, which requires them to repeatedly glitch out the boot until their custom bootloader can take over. TX are able to do it because it's the pirate way and with modchips involved. others can't because there's no open source/legal way (for now).

yes your right, but there is more to it than that, I've already had some of my posts deleted by a mod for being off topic on this matter :teach:

read the long thread on it and you'll see who said what and when and what some people posted on Twitter

the long thread is here and if you have an hour or so spare to read it .. TX had nothing

https://gbatemp.net/threads/team-xecuter-solution-coming-soon-for-latest-switch-models.551125/

tech3475 · May 31, 2020

DbGt said:
But at the end you still need a specialized modchip, and you can load any CFW with Tx`s modchip, so i dont completely see your point.... you can still load you open source CFW if you wanted to.

As for an open source modchip, i dont really know how that could work, and probably will take months to develop one at the very least.
We already have a high quality modchip designed by the very team that developed this achievement, I would feel more confident using their product.

There may be people who want to avoid TX's product for whatever reason, just look around this forum, so to them the quality of TX's product doesn't matter so long as the exploit is known and alternatives are made.

wurstpistole · May 31, 2020

JoeBloggs777 said:
many people use Atmos for illegal stuff to, maybe SciresM could prevent Atmos running pirated games, upto now many people are still using it for that.

And that would be the death of Atmosphere and/or the birth of a kip that enables piracy again. Pointless either way

DbGt · May 31, 2020

tech3475 said:
There may be people who want to avoid TX's product for whatever reason, just look around this forum, so to them the quality of TX's product doesn't matter so long as the exploit is known and alternatives are made.

Yeah, i know. In my opinion thats a very stupid stance to take on... Hate on some group for no apparent reason. At the end they are bringing new developments and advancing the scene, and thats only good for everyone.

Tx exploit = bad
Other company/ group using exactly same exploit and method developed by Tx = good

I dont understand this logic you are referring to.... If they hate so much tx, then they should also wait for some other exploit/method to be found, as this one is already "cursed" by tx and will always be related to them, because in one or another they will be using Tx`s method, the group they hate so much.... thats the logical thing to do following their way of thinking

RichardTheKing · May 31, 2020

tech3475 said:
Well maybe not for those who want open source versions and don't care about SXOS.

Atmosphere, now that Kosmos is unfortunately dead?

Adran_Marit · May 31, 2020

DbGt said:
But at the end you still need a specialized modchip, and you can load any CFW with Tx`s modchip, so i dont completely see your point.... you can still load you open source CFW if you wanted to.

As for an open source modchip, i dont really know how that could work, and probably will take months to develop one at the very least.
We already have a high quality modchip designed by the very team that developed this achievement, I would feel more confident using their product.

They already know how the chip works, and I have heard talk of possibly already replicating it on FPGA

MetoMeto · May 31, 2020

x65943 said:
"This is, however, ineffective."

Pirating the pirates - this is gonna lead to a lot of interesting developments

MK73DS · May 31, 2020

JoeBloggs777 said:
many people use Atmos for illegal stuff to, maybe SciresM could prevent Atmos running pirated games, upto now many people are still using it for that.

maybe TX is like marmite , you love it or hate it, no in btw. I bought 2 Gateway cards for the 3DS years ago and my kids had many years of use out of them, just as they've had nearly 2 years of use out of the SX Pro I bought.

love or hate them they were first with many features on the 3DS and Switch.

I agree with you. TX does stuff. But the fact that it's closed-source, illegal and focused on piracy makes me want to stay as far from it as I can. That's only my opinion about TX, and I think that's also why other don't like it.

Moreover, piracy can't be avoided in Atmosphere due to it's open source nature, but I don't really care since I know I'm using a legal tool to do legal stuff on my Switch, I don't care if there are kip patches and torrent sites that allow me to pirate games.

tabzer · May 31, 2020

ombus said:
What i mean by both sides is that as there are people who say sxos steals code and what not.. now its atmos who will do it by looking at the sxos mod chip...

There was a kerfuffle where SX was caught red-handed using GPL code in their commercial product. There was a useless message embedded by one of the open-source devs that SX didn't scrub before implementing.

Using the hardware to retrieve keys isn't so different than hacking hardware--as opposed to selling open-sourced code. I mean, they would have had purchased the hardware from SX to begin with, and then manipulate it to see how they see fit. A little apples and oranges... and presumes that SX's method of coding is preferred by the other teams who already have their own methods.

smf · May 31, 2020

tabzer said:
Are you saying that hexkyz is guilty of underestimating TXOS when it's a known fact that TX was ripping off code?

Just because they took open source code and included it in their product, doesn't mean they don't have anything.

And it wasn't underestimating, because everyone has known that TX had this for years. They've essentially been trolling TX to get them to release information about their exploit and also trying to put people off buying TX products by spreading misinformation.

I'm completely impartial, but it does seem rather dumb to knowingly tell lies about TX.

tabzer said:
Not the same as giving credibility to some anon troll who says,"TXOS got nuthin' Atmos for life!"

Anon troll? Wasn't it SciresM and Hexkyz that were doing that? Abusing their status to knowingly spread fake news.

DbGt · May 31, 2020

Adran_Marit said:
They already know how the chip works, and I have heard talk of possibly already replicating it on FPGA

I dont think it will be so simple and replicated soon as you seem to suggest. I mean, not even Tx have released their product after months of testing....

But only time will tell.

nikeymikey · May 31, 2020

smf said:
Just because they took open source code and included it in their product, doesn't mean they don't have anything.

And it wasn't underestimating, because everyone has known that TX had this for years. They've essentially been trolling TX to get them to release information about their exploit and also trying to put people off buying TX products by spreading misinformation.

This.

Adran_Marit · May 31, 2020

DbGt said:
I dont think it will be so simple and replicated soon as you seem to suggest. I mean, not even Tx have released their product after months of testing....

But only time will tell.

I'm not saying it will be easy, I'm saying I've heard talk of the possibility of doing it

But yeah it didn't take them long to dissect how it worked though

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