New Raspberry Pi 4 model launches today, comes with 8GB RAM

Bladexdsl · May 28, 2020

leon315 said:
guys, never bought one, what's use for this Rasperry?

they are good emulation boxes, kodi boxes and arcade mame cabinets

Pipistrele · May 28, 2020

fvig2001 said:
Does anyone actually really need that much RAM? I mean, do people like do GIMP projects on Pis or make video edits on their Pis?

Some people turn their Pis into smartboxes and emulation machines, so extra RAM can be handy there. Also decent for putting a torrent-box.

Tom Bombadildo · May 28, 2020

Pretty much only useful if you're one of the 10 people who compile code on a Pi (lolwhy?), or one of the few who use it as a dedicated computer for whatever reason.

The usual emulation/TV box stuff I would imagine most consumers buy a Pi for won't benefit a single bit from this (shit, even the 4GB one is overkill for that kind of thing), so I won't bother grabbing one. The $75 price point is also a bit steep as well.

Teletron1 · May 28, 2020

bodefuceta said:
I wonder why someone would need that much RAM on a Pi. I don't think I ever exceded 200MB usage on mine.

Don’t a lot of people use these to run media servers like Plex ram becomes and issue with it

FAST6191 · May 28, 2020

Tom Bombadildo said:
Pretty much only useful if you're one of the 10 people who compile code on a Pi (lolwhy?)

Try to find out how old they are and when they learned computing. Today it is nothing but not having to cross compile was something back in the day and it became something of a thing for those of that era.
That and those *nix distros that prefer not to have repos but instead compile source from distros, or have it is a major option and precompile/partially compile the big packages.

Re: useless RAM. Given how many of you all probably have a barely filled 4 gig SD card then 4 gigs is enough to do a reasonable RAM drive, 6 even more so.

nolimits59 · May 28, 2020

The Pi now have double more ram than my iPhone 11 pro x).

shaunj66 · May 28, 2020

If you're planning on a Retropie build, from what I've read even the 4GB model is overkill as none of the emulators will use the RAM. The 2GB model is apparently more than enough for the systems it can accurately emulate.

Nekomaru · May 28, 2020

The day when a mid-range DIY chip doubled the RAM size of Switch. Wake up. get up, get out there, Ninny!

Kioku · May 28, 2020

shaunj66 said:
If you're planning on a Retropie build, from what I've read even the 4GB model is overkill as none of the emulators will use the RAM. The 2GB model is apparently more than enough for the systems it can accurately emulate.

Can confirm. You'd never use the full 4GB in a retro gaming setup. Stacking on an extra 4GB makes no sense to me. The hardware is already heavily limited in power. Increasing the RAM won't change that fact.

Hambrew · May 28, 2020

Who cares? They killed the 1GB RAM option! :cry:

Tom Bombadildo · May 28, 2020

Hambrew said:
Who cares? They killed the 1GB RAM option!

Is that really a problem? They slashed the 2GB version down to the same $35 as the 1GB version a couple months ago, I honestly can't think of any reason to buy a 1GB version at that point.

diggeloid · May 28, 2020

I've bought so many of these over the years and never did anything with them. The longest use I ever got out of one was a emulation station setup, but that ended when the cheapo sdcard I was using mysteriously died.

But this thing at $75 seems like a poor value. How are you going to fill up those 8gb of RAM on such a weak processor? Even Google Chrome would need at least 5 tabs open at once to reach that amount, and I can't imagine performance would be great. Maybe if you want to use it as a server of some kind, but a 1.5ghz ARM quad core is still not great.

Anyone know of a good use case for this thing?

Hambrew · May 28, 2020

Tom Bombadildo said:
Is that really a problem? They slashed the 2GB version down to the same $35 as the 1GB version a couple months ago, I honestly can't think of any reason to buy a 1GB version at that point.

i was joking around, it's fine

Deleted member 512337 · May 28, 2020

It would be cool if we got a pi 0 with pi 3 specs

Lodad · May 28, 2020

leon315 said:
guys, never bought one, what's use for this Rasperry?

I use my model 3 B for pihole to kill ads, and also have a 1TB hard drive hooked up to use it as a plex server for my kid to watch paw patrol and downloaded youtube videos, and also have Samba installed so I can use it as a NAS and transfer video files to it more easily (also general storage).

ETA that I've also had OctoPi set up on it before my 3D printer took a crap, but that's a dedicated OS and I didn't really like having a $55 piece of kit just to remote control my printer, so I installed OctoPrint directly on my PC and just controlled my printer over USB.

matpower · May 28, 2020

The biggest news here isn't not even the 8GB Pi, it is that they are finally doing a 64-bit OS. A 64-bit Debian-based was something seriously missing within the Raspberry ecosystem and it is finally solved, and no, Ubuntu Server doesn't count as it is a bloated piece of crap. Who the hell uses snapd in a server environment, really?

Anyway, a 8GB Pi is overkill, even if you go crazy with it running the usual media server + addons combo, you can still keep it under 1GB headless (I'm still running mine on Pi3), and if you go full power user, 4GB is still enough. Unless you are compiling things on the Pi itself or refuse to use amd64 for some reason, 4GB is more than enough.

IMO Raspberry is only relevant due to the brand, the Pi4 is a flawed design that requires active cooling, lacks eMMC connectors and still has 2 USB2.0 ports for some reason. Odroid-C4 is really competitive to the Pi4 4GB and has crypto extensions + OpenCL while being 2% slower than the Pi4 in just a few scenarios (on raw power only, the crypto extensions give the C4 a great edge, specially on VPN-related scenarios) or the RockPro64 that has a PCI-E slot built-in which gives it a lot more flexibility than the Pi.

yikkyon · May 28, 2020

leon315 said:
guys, never bought one, what's use for this Rasperry?

I made a mini gameboy thing with it. Added an analog stick to it. Plays games all the way to PSP. That was only 2GB.

Deleted User · May 28, 2020

maybe... JUST maybe I'll buy it for mame

kublai · May 28, 2020

I'm waiting to see if Retropie builds can make use of the bigger RAM from 4GB to 8GB RAM to see if there's a significant improvments.

Tom Bombadildo · May 28, 2020

kublai said:
I'm waiting to see if Retropie builds can make use of the bigger RAM from 4GB to 8GB RAM to see if there's a significant improvments.

There's not even any benefit going from 1GB->2GB, so there will be 0 benefit going from 4GB->8GB. IIRC the most RAM hungry emulator with RetroPie is like...PPSSPP, which eats up maybe 600mb of RAM max.

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