Bernie Sanders drops out of Presidential Race

Xzi · Apr 9, 2020

The primary was rigged by the DNC yet again, this time by forcing every non-Biden candidate out of the race just before Super Tuesday and bribing them all for endorsements. Even the one other "progressive" candidate who was in the race, Warren, did her fair share of damage by refusing to endorse Sanders. Also doesn't help that the Democratic party puts so much stock into the primaries in deep red states which are guaranteed to vote Trump in November. As much as I wanted to hold on to any shred of hope, the bottom line is that there cannot be true democracy with a two party system. Thus the reason many founding fathers warned against it. I guess accelerationism is the final path left to us; perhaps after this country completes its descent into a fascist police state we'll finally get people to wake up and enact real change through revolution.

Foxi4 said:
I have no idea why people are surprised at all, this was a forgone conclusion from Day 1. He's laughing all the way to the bank, it's time to buy another summer home.

Give me a fucking break. He's an old man on a Senator's salary, if he didn't have a decent nest egg saved up by this point you'd be attacking him for being fiscally irresponsible. It's obvious there's no leftist politician who could possibly win you over, so pretending otherwise is asinine.

Foxi4 said:
The Democrats will have an extremely hard time convincing the average Joe (pun intended) that Biden isn't in a state of rapid decline in terms of his mental faculties. His recent public appearances have all been disasters. The man can't string a sentence together, he either babbles nonsensically or recounts bizarre, mostly fictional anecdotes. He had his fair share of gaffes during his term as VP, but now it's just embarrassing. Democrat voters should give him a warm blanket, not their votes. I'm not even being funny, at this point a vote for Biden is irresponsible.

Dems are running a rapist with dementia against an incumbent who's a rapist with severe mental deficiencies. This is a no-win scenario for America and Americans, it's only a can't-lose scenario for corporations.

For anyone searching for an alternative, I suggest doing some research on Gloria La Riva. I'm not sure she'll be on the ballot in every state, but I intend to vote her for president and Democrat for every race down ballot. I expect Biden to win my state/the popular vote and lose the election regardless, same thing that happened with Clinton.

The Catboy · Apr 9, 2020

Foxi4 said:
We will not be a nation in dentures any longer. Zombies belong in power plants - that's green energy.

Ponies, teeth, zombies, vote for the only tyrant you can trust, vote Vermin Supreme.

Foxi4 · Apr 9, 2020

Xzi said:
The primary was rigged by the DNC yet again, this time by forcing every non-Biden candidate out of the race just before Super Tuesday and bribing them all for endorsements. Even the one other "progressive" candidate who was in the race, Warren, did her fair share of damage by refusing to endorse Sanders. Also doesn't help that the Democratic party puts so much stock into the primaries in deep red states which are guaranteed to vote Trump in November. As much as I wanted to hold on to any shred of hope, the bottom line is that there cannot be true democracy with a two party system. Thus the reason many founding fathers warned against it. I guess accelerationism is the final path left to us; perhaps after this country completes its descent into a fascist police state we'll finally get people to wake up and enact real change through revolution.

Give me a fucking break. He's an old man on a Senator's salary, if he didn't have a decent nest egg saved up by this point you'd be attacking him for being fiscally irresponsible. It's obvious there's no leftist politician who could possibly win you over, so pretending otherwise is asinine.

Dems are running a rapist with dementia against an incumbent who's a rapist with severe mental deficiencies. This is a no-win situation for America and Americans, it's only a can't-lose situation for corporations.

For anyone searching for an alternative, I suggest doing some research on Gloria La Riva. I'm not sure she'll be on the ballot in every state, but I intend to vote her for president and Democrat for every race down ballot. I expect Biden to win my state/the popular vote and lose the election regardless, same thing that happened with Clinton.

I sure hope you have evidence for those claims, otherwise you're slandering both. I understand that you were knee deep in the Bernie camp, but what's done is done - it's just politics, relax. Out of all the DNC candidates I actually had an affinity for Bernie since he seems to truly believe in his vision of America. It's a horrible, dystopian vision, but at the very least he's somewhat genuine about it. When Warren and Sanders propose the exact same ridiculous level of taxation, Warren sugarcoats it as something people won't even notice whereas Bernie says it how it is - "I'm going to tax you all more, but I'll give you this in return and I think it's worth it". It takes some guts to be forward with your base when you know your proposal is unpopular, and Sanders had that. I may be diametrically opposed to everything he represents and I may find his politics to be immoral and reprehensible, but I can still respect honesty.

zer01717 · Apr 9, 2020

Maybe off topic, but seeing as he was a prime supporter of it can someone please explain why you guys do not want universal health care? I feel like you guys need it more then ever now...

SG854 · Apr 9, 2020

Foxi4 said:
I sure hope you have evidence for those claims, otherwise you're slandering both. I understand that you were knee deep in the Bernie camp, but what's done is done - it's just politics, relax. Out of all the DNC candidates I actually had an affinity for Bernie since he seems to truly believe in his vision of America. It's a horrible, distopian vision, but at the very least he's somewhat genuine about it. When Warren and Sanders propose the exact same ridiculous level of taxation, Warren sugarcoats it as something people won't even notice whereas Bernie says it how it is - "I'm going to tax you all more, but I'll give you this in return and I think it's worth it". It takes some guts to be forward with your base when you know your proposal is unpopular, and Sanders had that. I may be diametrically opposed to everything he represents and I may find his politics to be immoral and reprehensible, but I can still respect honesty.

I feel like violence is going to break out. Just like last time Bernie lost.

People don't really see it as just politics like it's just a video game. They see it as a life or death situation. Vote for X and we will suffer. This is more prone to violence. Fight for survival situation.

A lot of Bernie Supporters will rather vote Trump then Biden. With a few saying Bernie or else. The or else being violence. You can't convinced these people that you lost fair and square deal with it. All the arguments that happened these past couple of years about this topic proved that. They come up with a reason, either being rigged or whatever. And use that to justify their actions.

Xzi · Apr 9, 2020

Foxi4 said:
I sure hope you have evidence for those claims, otherwise you're slandering both.

I'm not sure how anybody could watch the on-camera behavior of either Biden or Trump and have any doubts left about their predatory tendencies. If they're that bold about it in public, I shudder to think about what happens behind closed doors. IIRC Trump has more than 50 female accusers, while Biden is also close to breaking double digits. Then there's the whole matter of Trump being BFFs with Epstein, who "mysteriously" committed suicide in a federal jail under the supervision of AG William Barr. As far as I'm aware, Biden's name doesn't appear on flight logs for the "Lolita Express," but it wouldn't surprise me to later find out that it does. I'd keep rattling off more evidence against the two of them, but frankly I don't have all week.

Foxi4 said:
I understand that you were knee deep in the Bernie camp, but what's done is done - it's just politics, relax.

I'm sure you've lived a fairly privileged life, as have I, but that's no excuse for treating politics like a game without real-life consequences. It permeates through nearly every facet of our every day routines. Especially at a time when we're dealing with a pandemic killing people and destroying jobs.

zer01717 said:
Maybe off topic, but seeing as he was a prime supporter of it can someone please explain why you guys do not want universal health care? I feel like you guys need it more then ever now...

A lot of Americans are just as bewildered about this as you are. Every primary exit poll showed a large majority of Democrats support Medicare for all. What it seems to come down to is that people didn't vote based on policy platforms. They voted based on fear (of change) and name recognition, same as they did in 2016.

Foxi4 · Apr 9, 2020

Xzi said:
I'm not sure how anybody could watch the on-camera behavior of either Biden or Trump and have any doubts left about their predatory tendencies. If they're that bold about it in public, I shudder to think about what happens behind closed doors. IIRC Trump has more than 50 female accusers, while Biden is also close to breaking double digits. Then there's the whole matter of Trump being BFFs with Epstein, who "mysteriously" committed suicide in a federal jail under the supervision of AG William Barr. As far as I'm aware, Biden's name doesn't appear on flight logs for the "Lolita Express," but it wouldn't surprise me to later find out that it does. I'd keep rattling off more evidence against the two of them, but frankly I don't have all week.

I'm sure you've lived a fairly privileged life, as have I, but that's no excuse for treating politics like a game without real-life consequences. It permeates through nearly every facet of our every day routines. Especially at a time when we're dealing with a pandemic killing people and destroying jobs.

A lot of Americans are just as bewildered about this as you are. Every primary exit poll showed a large majority of Democrats support Medicare for all. What it seems to come down to is that people didn't vote based on policy platforms. They voted based on fear (of change) and name recognition, same as they did in 2016.

I wouldn't call my upbringing privileged, but I also don't see how that would have any relevance here - observations are either accurate or they're not. With all due respect, America was doing just fine for the last four years and it's not going to implode after another four - the only reason the economy bombed this year is COVID-19, a rather sudden pandemic that KO'd the economies of most first-world countries, not just the United States. If you're looking for someone to blame for the current situation, I would direct your attention to China which diligently "handled" the coronavirus pandemic by silencing whistleblowers until it became impossible to conceal the spread anymore. You're right, politics do permeate our day to day lives, but at the end of the day a loss is still a loss - you can blame everybody but your candidate or you can take it gracefully and identify the flaws in his campaign, of which there were many. I will agree with you in regards to one crucial detail - the DNC set the primary up to ensure that Sanders fails. Everything, from last minute changes to the rules that allowed Bloomberg to run to a sudden shower of Biden endorsements indicates that the choice wasn't exactly "democratic", Biden was the chosen one from the start, like Clinton was before him.

Viri · Apr 9, 2020

Foxi4 said:
the only reason the economy bombed this year is COVID-19, a rather sudden pandemic that KO'd the economies of most first-world countries, not just the United States. If you're looking for someone to blame for the current situation, I would direct your attention to China which diligently "handled" the coronavirus pandemic by silencing whistleblowers until it became impossible to conceal the spread anymore. .

Don't forget that the WHO refused to listen to Taiwan or even recognize them, and ignored them about their warnings about COVID-19. Taiwan took it very seriously, and got their shit together fast. If there is one country that doesn't trust China, that's Taiwan. Just go take a look at their numbers. Also, the WHO is bought out by China.

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

morvoran · Apr 9, 2020

To any Bernie supporters who are still wishing to know what life would be like under a Bernie presidency, go ahead and send me half your paycheck and I'll give you nothing in return.
If you need to see a doctor for any reason, schedule your appointment 3 or more weeks from the day you would need to see them. If you need any basic procedure done, ask your doctor to push it at least a year in the future.
If you ever need to protect yourself, just call the cops and wait while you are being assaulted or murdered.
If you own a home, start camping on your sidewalk and just poo anywhere you like.
There are so many wonderful ways to still live in a pretend Bernie world, but these should get you started.

On another note, just to show the type of folks who supported this socialist, take a look at this pic:

It looks like a lot of people desperate for "free stuff" really had their hopes on the US becoming a socialist nation. SMH!!!

Captain_N · Apr 9, 2020

Lilith Valentine said:
And the DNC just handed 4 more years to Trump.

You really think bernie can beat trump? Just look how pissed bernie got when bloomberg called him a commie. Trump would have trolled Bernie so hard that bernie would run out of shades of red to turn. Bernie cant even tell you that your taxes will be over 60%. Hes so far left that the left dont even want him. Instead of trying to impeach trump on bullshit, they should have worked on a candidate that could beat him. Oh wait, they dont have one. They are still to salty that trump raped that in 2016. Trump is to much of a master troll for them to handle they still cant deal with him.

SexiestManAlive · Apr 9, 2020

dont worry guys, we wont be around too much longer with the way things are going, which is why im not having children, im not reproducing if it means my children are gonna grow in a fucked world

Xzi · Apr 9, 2020

Foxi4 said:
I wouldn't call my upbringing privileged, but I also don't see how that would have any relevance here - observations are either accurate or they're not.

How you make observations and the things you choose to make observations about is influenced almost exclusively by your upbringing and environment. A person from North Korea is obviously going to have a very different process for thinking about things than a person from Africa, and that applies not only to geography, but also to differences across social status/class, among other factors. Sure, facts are facts regardless, but so often they're ignored entirely in today's political discourse. Case in point:

Foxi4 said:
America was doing just fine for the last four years and it's not going to implode after another four

Citation needed. Wages in America are about as low as they've ever been relative to inflation and cost of living. The vast majority of Americans didn't even have an extra $600 bucks saved for an emergency, and that was before COVID-19 started spreading to the US. Not to mention the deliberate and gradual dismantling of every federal institution which ensured America remained a democratic republic in more than title only.

Foxi4 said:
the only reason the economy bombed this year is COVID-19

Along with a piss-poor and extremely late federal response to it, sure. We'll also be waiting much longer for a recovery than other countries due to lack of funding, given that it's all been frittered away on corporate tax cuts and handouts.

Foxi4 said:
China which diligently "handled" the coronavirus pandemic by silencing whistleblowers

Yes...that's something I'm sure the US government would never do. :rolleyes:

Foxi4 said:
at the end of the day a loss is still a loss

osaka35 · Apr 9, 2020

Assuming Biden doesn't die or isn't otherwise incapable of proceeding by the time the primaries are over, neither the democrats or republicans will have a candidate who supports the beliefs they're suppose to support. Biden is a conservative. Trump is an authoritarian. Neither have their full faculties and neither are going to support the things they're suppose to support. USA politics are so pants-on-head silly, you can't even rely on the party you're voting for to have people whose values align with the party's.

The USA is not only a disaster, it's getting worse. this is a pretty sad day.

Xzi · Apr 9, 2020

osaka35 said:
Assuming Biden doesn't die or isn't otherwise incapable of proceeding by the time the primaries are over, neither the democrats or republicans will have a candidate who supports the beliefs they're suppose to support. Biden is a conservative. Trump is an authoritarian. Neither have their full faculties and neither are going to support the things they're suppose to support. USA politics are so pants-on-head silly, you can't even rely on the party you're voting for to have people whose values align with the party's.

The USA is not only a disaster, it's getting worse. this is a pretty sad day.

Biden's mental decline is so obvious that a number of party insiders have been floating the idea that the DNC might hand all of Biden's delegates to somebody else at the convention, such as Andrew Cuomo. Even as undemocratic as that might be, and even without knowing the first thing about the guy, I'd gladly take that shot in the dark over the guaranteed trainwreck that is Biden. Hell, at this point I'd take Pete Buttigieg, and that's despite the fact that I think he's a two-faced neoliberal rat who tries too hard to sound like Obama. At the very least the dude can string two coherent sentences together, which is more than I can say for Trump or Biden.

Viri · Apr 9, 2020

Captain_N said:
They are still to salty that trump raped that in 2016.

He grabbed the DNC by the pussy.

Darth Meteos · Apr 9, 2020

vote for trump
save the movement
destroy the dnc

morvoran said:
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you look fucking hilarious from the perspective of every other western nation
imagine how indoctrinated you have to be to believe this is how social democracy works

Cylent1 · Apr 9, 2020

GOOD RIDDANCE!
We do not need no commy bastard running what is left of our constitutional republic anyways!

Foxi4 · Apr 9, 2020

Xzi said:
How you make observations and the things you choose to make observations about is influenced almost exclusively by your upbringing and environment. A person from North Korea is obviously going to have a very different process for thinking about things than a person from Africa, and that applies not only to geography, but also to differences across social status/class, among other factors. Sure, facts are facts regardless, but so often they're ignored entirely in today's political discourse. Case in point:

Citation needed. Wages in America are about as low as they've ever been relative to inflation and cost of living. The vast majority of Americans didn't even have an extra $600 bucks saved for an emergency, and that was before COVID-19 started spreading to the US. Not to mention the deliberate and gradual dismantling of every federal institution which ensured America remained a democratic republic in more than title only.

Along with a piss-poor and extremely late federal response to it, sure. We'll also be waiting much longer for a recovery than other countries due to lack of funding, given that it's all been frittered away on corporate tax cuts and handouts.

Yes...that's something I'm sure the US government would never do.

I would quote the DOW and SNP500 hitting record highs week after week, but the pandemic undid that in a hurry. On the bright side, I could bring up unemployment at a record low, particularly among ethnic minorities, to the point that job openings overtook the overall number of job seekers, or the noticeable wage growth, even when adjusted for inflation and a massive increase of the median household income as some of the improvements we've seen under Trump. I know that you don't like the guy, but give credit where credit is due. Back in 2016 I was told these policies would lead to another recession - that didn't happen. Sadly, I predict that the current lockdown will undo a lot of the good, leaving behind most of the bad. In any case, you can argue with his methods, you can dislike him as a person, but you can't argue with the results. Of course we can have a different opinion on what led to this well-performing economy - I'm sure you will tell me that the seedlings were planted via Obama's policies, and you would be partially correct, but not entirely. Material for another discussion, but I hope you found the "citations" satisfactory, even if you'll ultimately choose to interpret them differently.

Xzi · Apr 9, 2020

Darth Meteos said:
vote for trump
save the movement
destroy the dnc

The DNC and the RNC are essentially the same corporation. Which is why a vote for either establishment puppet is a vote against every American's best interests.

Viri · Apr 9, 2020

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