Another Example of how completely stupid People are - Spitting at People actual.

Dinomite · Apr 3, 2020

duwen said:
Google 'corona coughers' - there's an alarming number of reports from all over the world.
In some countries they are being arrested, jailed, and charged with low level terrorism offences.

...and rightly so. Anyone who chooses to engage in biological terrorism should be locked up in prison. Especially spitting, that is so foul.

UltraDolphinRevolution · Apr 3, 2020

It´s slightly off-topic but the US is about to give 1,200$ to anyone who earns less than 75.000$ a year. Is 75k a low income in Ameria? I always wondered why Americans complain about seemingly high amounts of money. In many countries 6.250$ per month would be considered a ton of money (even after taxes).

FAST6191 · Apr 3, 2020

UltraDolphinRevolution said:
It´s slightly off-topic but the US is about to give 1,200$ to anyone who earns less than 75.000$ a year. Is 75k a low income in Ameria? I always wondered why Americans complain about seemingly high amounts of money. In many countries 6.250$ per month would be considered a ton of money (even after taxes).

I have not read the final bill yet to know if that is the number settled upon, and what goes for families and people with kids.

Anyway assuming that is the case
America/the US varies massively.
Go to some of the big cities (New York, LA, Seattle, San Francisco, possibly Portland, these days the bigger cities in Texas, if you have heard of a tech company being based there...) and you will struggle to live on 75K anywhere near the city, a bit further out can be better but you will have to commute.
Go to some of the smaller and rural states and 75K will see you live like a king, and I doubt many people there even meet someone that earns that much, save perhaps their doctor.

But yeah it is a lot of money in most places. Sort of thing you either need to run a successful business for or have a decent degree to get, some people might get there as a manager in a shop but even those people expect to have degrees these days.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/24/how-much-americans-earn-at-every-age.html

You can run the cost of living equation for you if you want
Rent
https://www.apartmentlist.com/rentonomics/national-rent-data/
Food varies a lot depending upon how much you eat in restaurants, how much you cook and what you cook. Sometimes it is cheap but I do find it hard when there to eat healthily for cheap using readily available ingredients (worldwide food production means most things I have in the UK I can find in the US if I wanted, however I am usually going for what is there locally) and I can/do cook.

In most of the US you will need a car, though some of the cities don't, so add that as well.

Another link that might help bias costs when it comes to cities.
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/index/north-america

You will probably also want to add health insurance into this (there is some free healthcare but you won't get far without insurance). Depending upon your age, lifestyle and previous conditions that can get quite expensive.

All that said I meet just as many that would go bankrupt if they stopped earning for a few months -- for whatever reason a lot of people there live right at their means or just beyond it, use ridiculous amounts of credit, and don't have much in the way of savings, or a rainy day fund. To that end I can well imagine many earning say $70K a year being immensely relieved at this.

the_randomizer · Apr 3, 2020

So, if people did that to me, would I be justified in beating the shit out of them in retaliation? Like, I don't know, punching them in the jugular or in the back of their legs so they buckle and collapse? People like that are inconsiderate pricks , and deserve heavy fines.

I can't people like that, fucking morons

Xzi · Apr 3, 2020

FAST6191 said:
Again though for the young it is overwhelmingly likely to be pretty mild so a threat of a bad cold and a week inside to recover... yeah.

This is very incorrect. Right now, roughly half of hospitalizations and a third of ventilator usage in the US' infection hotspots are from people under 45. Nobody is yet sure on why exactly the virus seems to be hitting young Americans harder than young people in other countries, but there seem to be a number of possible factors at play. Obesity, blood type, NSAID (Ibuprofen) usage, vaping/smoking, and so on. With something that attacks the lungs so aggressively, there's always going to be quite a bit of risk involved.

FAST6191 · Apr 3, 2020

the_randomizer said:
So, if people did that to me, would I be justified in beating the shit out of them in retaliation? Like, I don't know, punching them in the jugular or in the back of their legs so they buckle and collapse? People like that are inconsiderate pricks , and deserve heavy fines.

I can't people like that, fucking morons

If you are beating the shit out of someone why go for the back of the legs? The front buckles almost as easily (the same solid kick will do it) and that is some good long term stuff, and ability to run away as someone with a leg bending a way it did not before it not going to be able to give chase.
Equally while you might cause a spasm by punching someone in an artery it is not particularly assured of doing much.

More seriously I would not want to deck someone because they spat on me. Once the spitting has been done then unless you fear for someone else it is done and you would potentially have to, or at least want to, justify a continued threat. It would likely count as the instigation of a fight but even if you are in a location that does the stand your ground thing it is still not a great look. Not to mention you don't know you have been got by anything (it might wipe off) and continuing in close quarters combat increases the chances even more.

Xzi said:
This is very incorrect. Right now, roughly half of hospitalizations and a third of ventilator usage in the US' infection hotspots are from people under 45. Nobody is yet sure on why exactly the virus seems to be hitting young Americans harder than young people in other countries, but there seem to be a number of possible factors at play. Obesity, blood type, NSAID (Ibuprofen) usage, vaping/smoking, and so on. With something that attacks the lungs so aggressively, there's always going to be quite a bit of risk involved.

Had not seen the updated US stats, though that is admissions rather than likelihood to progress. Being a fat bastard had been a suspected thing in a discussion some time back. Also how many are on the upper end of that range? Average 40 something tending to be rather different to a 20 something for all sorts of diagnostic criteria.

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