That's some pretty big words for a begger. It is not the first time, and why I say this?
https://gbatemp.net/threads/snemuld...-for-the-last-dkp.328636/page-19#post-7611202
And it's been three years. Oh,
btw, these bugs you mentioned in there have been already fixed by me as of 2018 and it's taken a heavy rewrite of TGDS environment + retaining SnemulDS features with it. (nifi/zip support, old rom compatibility, faster emulation speed without sacrificing compatibility). And that took quite some work to pull out. Like almost a year to merge all together and make things stable.
OMG !
I was almost sure that the reason for so much aggressiveness in your message came from there, I am very sad for you my friend especially if you keep it in you since three years...
Ok, so let me clarify a few points, at the time of this message that you mention (that of 2017), I had downloaded and installed your version of SNEmulDS with which I had tested my pack of roms (about 324 roms), that too takes time, not as much as reprogramming the emulator, I grant you that, but I still spent a lot of hours on it and the results spoke for themselves: in 2017 your SNEmulDS version was less interesting that the original version, it is a fact.
You fixed that in 2018 and you added more options, okay, I missed that. Do I feel like redoing a complete test to help you build a reliable compatibility list, frankly I could, but given the way things are going, no.
You see, it's very nice to spit in the face of people who are interested in your work but still you have to know what these same people do with your work, as far as I'm concerned, at the time, I was trying to build a compatibility list in order to help to the best of my ability, actually there is a word to describe that, it's called feedback.
On this forum, we are not all developers, no, we do not have all these skills but we can distinguish several types of participants: those who create things, those who improve them or at least who try and those who benefit from them, I am part of the third category, I admit, it is a fact, but among those who benefit from it there are two categories of people: those who download and leave without saying thank you or so little and those who say "whoua! It’s cool what this guy programmed, how can I thank him like he should be thanked ? Oh I know, I’ll spend some time on his program and draw up a compatibility list", as far as I am concerned, I think I am part of this last category and since we come to bring out the old files I invite you to reread these two posts that prove to which I am a bad beggar who thinks only of himself :
https://gbatemp.net/threads/fba4dstwo.461008/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/dstwo-linux-beta1-0-release.339028/page-11#post-7579584
Besides that, I trace the problems encountered when I test homebrews or emulators, it is not limited to saying that it does not work, bugs, you must understand them and when you are not a developer (because it is my case) so the least we can do is try to reproduce them so as to give as much detail as possible, I’m not going to teach you this, but I hope you’ll at least have the honesty to admit that with this kind of methodology, testing takes a little longer than just saying it doesn’t work.
Just in case, I want to be clear, I don’t get paid to do that.
Oh! Did you see that ? We have something in common, amazing, isn't it ?
But let’s get rid of these old things that don’t have much interest, I’m not gonna waste my time justifying myself anymore so get back to our today’s discord.
And where's the money you pay for making such requests? Or do you think porting things through open source tools is hassle-free and quite straightforward? I mean you are not giving proper credit to DS devs by the first sentence. Why do you feel entitled to ask for things "merely modified and (for) a few homebrew" ? You are just an end user. And it's totally understandable to take your requests, at least, if you ask for these things nicely and in a proper manner.
There is so much condescension, arrogance and contempt in this passage that it becomes ridiculous, I don’t know where to start so much to say but let’s go anyway...
As a reminder, I was just starting a discussion by asking a simple question, I wasn’t making a request, I wasn’t waiting for a developer to say "okay, we’re going to make a G&W emulator!" and I did not criticize the fact that currently apart from some homebrews and some modifications on emulators, there is not much novelty for owners of DS fat/ lite, once again I repeat it because it seems obviously necessary since you are trying to divert the conversation on something else...
In fact, I was wondering why G&W wasn’t getting any real buzz from developers outside of some homebrews here and there, I was thinking of the ones that can be found in the topic of the list of emulators for the DS but also more recently the two portages that Paul Goes had made a year or two ago, which led me to wonder if it was for technical reasons (hence my question about Madrigal) or simply for lack of interest, I simply wanted to know a little more about this subject, just out of curiosity, nothing more.
Now I have the answers to my questions and my curiosity is satisfied, all participants were kind enough to take the time to answer my questions and gave me (in addition to the technical explanations) alternatives to overcome this lack of G&W.
In fact, it’s only you Coto who didn’t understand my request or who came to settle accounts in public in an insulting way, honestly if you had a grievance against me, it would have been more elegant to come and talk to me in private, but let’s go, we are not all well educated.
Seriously, you don’t see any contradiction in asking me cleanly and nicely for a request (which I didn’t make in addition) when you allow yourself to treat end users as less than nothing ?
Do you at least realize that the topic of this topic is not modified emulators but simply a discussion about the fact that with the exception of some homebrews there are no G&W emulators on DS fat/lite ?
Honestly, do you realize that for criticism from three years ago, you’re off-topic, you insult, you’re just trolling for ego? It’s still serious to react so childishly...
Do you know the difference between giving proper credits to the huge and insane ammount of effort of maintaining DS homebrew and porting things through open source tools? I mean there are quite severe obscure bugs in GCC compiler which could just cause a binary to give whitescreens by just re-arranging code in a very specific way. But of course that is useless and transparent for the end user. You are an end user and you should not define nor keep track of DS homebrew's pace.
What are you trying to do ?
Are you trying to say the same thing with a few more technical terms to make you look superior and a little more credible? As you feel but it doesn’t change anything, it’s always off topic in a contemptuous tone and believe me, it’s not a glorious spectacle...
Remove me from a doubt, I realize that I have called you Coto throughout this post but as a simple end user maybe I made a mistake, maybe you are focused on titles of nobility, maybe I should address you as Lord Coto or even better King Coto, how should a simple end user like me behave in front of a superior person touched by the divine light of creation like you?
I mean it's great you show interest but you should always give credits where it's due, even if a DS homebrew "does literally nothing".
Thanks for the advice Dr House, I also like sarcasm.
