Judge denies Nintendo's request to dismiss Joy-Con drift lawsuit, case heads to arbitration

D34DL1N3R · Mar 12, 2020

Why not Microsoft? EVERY 360 controller I've ever owned had horrendous left analog stick drift. Some even when brand new out of the box. Literally EVERY one. Have never had an issue with a single PS1, PS2, PS3, or PS4 controller.

raxadian · Mar 12, 2020

The Switch Lite has worse Joycon driff issues that the big Switch, so I am glad this lawsuit wasn't dismissed.

MagnesG · Mar 12, 2020

Lol this would just end up on Nintendo not having to fix anything for free after all. That's what arbitrary actually means in court against big companies, and likely setting up precedence on future cases.

That guy just fucked up all of the other customers.

64bitmodels · Mar 12, 2020

D34DL1N3R said:
Why not Microsoft? EVERY 360 controller I've ever owned had horrendous left analog stick drift. Some even when brand new out of the box. Literally EVERY one. Have never had an issue with a single PS1, PS2, PS3, or PS4 controller.

Damn. You must have really bad luck when it comes to 360 controllers. Mine have literally not broken and i've use them for quite a while.

MagnesG · Mar 12, 2020

UltraDolphinRevolution said:
I don´t know the details but I assume Nintendo was not willing to deliver repairs or new Joycons. Suing is the final step.

I have heard that certain European countries have issues with these, but not the entire US, of course within the limits of the warranty.

They had been getting free fixes and new joycons like usual, even before the lawsuits, so that's just bullshit.

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64bitmodels said:
And this is why I hate corporations. They do such anti consumer moves but they always get away with it because they're the only option. People like you and other smart people need to the the CEOs of these companies, not those washed out assholes suing a rom website for games that they don't even sell.

MAKE YOUR OWN GAMES THEN.

Lol this is just business, not a non-profit company so what do you expect really? Rainbows and sushines would not happen even if you wish for it.

Pluupy · Mar 12, 2020

skinnyBIGGS said:
Because there controllers cost almost 100 dollars and have shown signs of drifting within days of playing handheld especially zelda and game that requires constant thumb movement on the joycon will cause drifting.. i have 3 sets all do the same drifting gave i and bought another 100 controller switch pro controller.. yes smaller joysticks can drift easier but not necessarly true for all joysticks.. i have 2 ps vitas that get played alot not one has a drift problem... nintendo is all about profit they knew and didnt care they figured becauae there detachable consumers wont mind but when these things cost as much as they do and fail at the rate th3y do nintendo should be held accountable.

Not even 100 dollars. My $20 logitech f310 never once drifted. The Switch joycon analogs are just plain crap.

64bitmodels · Mar 12, 2020

MagnesG said:
I have heard that certain European countries have issues with these, but not the entire US, of course within the limits of the warranty.

They had been getting free fixes and new joycons like usual, even before the lawsuits, so that's just bullshit.

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MAKE YOUR OWN GAMES THEN.

Lol this is just business, not a non-profit company so what do you expect really? Rainbows and sushines would not happen even if you wish for it.

This isn't a complaint on the software side dude, it's on the hardware side. I say it's the only option because sony microsoft and nintendo are the main 3 hardware publishers in the gaming scene- no one else. if i were to try to make a new console i'd fail immediately since those 3 already have an unstoppable monopoly

Kioku · Mar 12, 2020

64bitmodels said:
This isn't a complaint on the software side dude, it's on the hardware side. I say it's the only option because sony microsoft and nintendo are the main 3 hardware publishers in the gaming scene- no one else. if i were to try to make a new console i'd fail immediately since those 3 already have an unstoppable monopoly

No, I'd assume it's because you lack even the most basic or business sense.

64bitmodels · Mar 12, 2020

Memoir said:
No, I'd assume it's because you lack even the most basic or business sense.

that too lmao

Redhorse · Mar 12, 2020

yes, let us be quiet about a problem of OURS while we throw takedowns (for lets Plays and fan remakes) around like they're free meal tickets or trips to Dizzy Land.

64bitmodels · Mar 12, 2020

Redhorse said:
yes, let us be quiet about a problem of OURS while we throw takedowns (for lets Plays and fan remakes) around like they're free meal tickets or trips to Dizzy Land.

i thought they were done with the whole lets play takedown thing?

StrayGuitarist · Mar 12, 2020

Ahh, yes. At least something's happening. I was lucky enough only to lose one set of joy-cons to drift, and Nintendo fixed them up for free, after I sent them in. However it'd be easiest if I just.. didn't have to send them in at all.

Ratskull · Mar 12, 2020

DANTENDO said:
Out of all the joycons out ther thers prob less than 1% thts faulty or just aggressive use by the player and I don't want to see Microsoft at the top of the tree at console gaming as they should stick to pcs due to as you prob kno the xbox one name was total BS and the Series X with another x in the title is mor BS lol

I bet that percentage is above 40℅

subtleglow87 · Mar 12, 2020

Planned obsolescence strikes again.

Manufacturing in the US would increase the cost.

Why do prices always need raised instead of multi-billion dollar companies absorbing the cost?
Oh wait, companies not making record profits year after year is literally socialism and we can't have that.

KingVamp · Mar 12, 2020

Overall, I don't like how they are handling this Joy-Con thing. I didn't even know they were changing them. That said, at least they are replacing them and are trying to fix them, but I feel like they need a better design altogether.

Shape · Mar 12, 2020

Shape said:
This is just one more step closer to Nintendo Switch being cancelled due to...

Well, you know.

Silent_Gunner said:
Cancel culture? XD

Well, I was going to say the corona beer virus, buuuut...

I am actually quite sick of systems and games getting cancelled after a few years and becoming unavailable.

FAST6191 · Mar 12, 2020

subtleglow87 said:
Why do prices always need raised instead of multi-billion dollar companies absorbing the cost?
Oh wait, companies not making record profits year after year is literally socialism and we can't have that.

The margins on consoles are already razor thin (see any number of bill of materials breakdowns). They could do some kind of loss leader and offset that with game licensing but eh, not to mention it would be rather hard to enforce that.

Anyway as for the hypothetical of bringing manufacturing jobs to the US... between environmental regs, cost of land, taxes and whatever else that would mean about 5 highly trained engineers (several possibly not even in the state) and their managers, with a couple of people shovelling things onto lorries, running a massive automated factory.
The lines of semi skilled peeps in white suits like you see on all the videos are only that way because things are, or actually were (as mentioned things are moving out of China, mainly to other places that have not yet had decades of billions being pumped into them yet), that cheap that they could do that instead of spunking a few billion making a robot to do it and come out ahead by the end of the run. Said billions are dropping all the time though (the cheapo 3d printers and CNC machines you are all enjoying having in your garage also has implications right to the top, along with existing libraries of designs of things to do it -- soldering and chip placement is just that and has not changed too much).

None of that would alter what looks like poor materials selection, flawed design and lack* of testing that led to this.

*I presume it is a lack rather than someone fluffing a number in the total cost of replacement vs cost of lawsuit calculation.

jamezfat · Mar 12, 2020

on my third pair, gotta send in the last two. and one pair of those two has already been repaired...

i hope they get in trouble. its unacceptable

Janschi · Mar 12, 2020

ModderFokker619 said:
Ive never seen a brand new switch have this problem

Ive never seen a well taken care of switch have this problem

I always see this on nasty switches brought in - Mostly from kids

Wear and tear and mishandling of the hardware is the cause

Nin should not have to be dealing with this

sorry you‘re just dumb, I take care of my switch and the joycons drift nonetheless. I don’t even play that often.

Nintendo of Europe won‘t even repair them for free out of warranty.

Deleted User · Mar 12, 2020

Janschi said:
sorry you‘re just dumb, I take care of my switch and the joycons drift nonetheless. I don’t even play that often.

Nintendo of Europe won‘t even repair them for free out of warranty.

So you broke your sticks and mad Nintendo wont replace your sticks because they are out of warranty. Classic dirt bag. They broke themselves I guess. You my friend are the dumb one...Not sorry.

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