nds-bootstrap loader: Run commercial NDS backups from an SD Card

Hammyface · Jan 15, 2020

banjo2 said:
Unlaunch loads them instead.

Wow OK I am confused. So when I am in TWiLightMenu and I choose a DSiWare game, it secretly switches over to Unlaunch and then loads the game using Unlaunch?

And when NDSBootstrap finally supports DSiWare and I updated it, TWiLightMenu will automatically know to stop using Unlaunch to load them?

Sorry if these are stupid questions

RocketRobz · Jan 15, 2020

Hammyface said:
Wow OK I am confused. So when I am in TWiLightMenu and I choose a DSiWare game, it secretly switches over to Unlaunch and then loads the game using Unlaunch?

And when NDSBootstrap finally supports DSiWare and I updated it, TWiLightMenu will automatically know to stop using Unlaunch to load them?

Sorry if these are stupid questions

When the new nds-bootstrap is released, a new TWiLight Menu++ version will release as well, and will add an option to switch between Unlaunch and nds-bootstrap.

orangy57 · Jan 18, 2020

Is there a list of launch options that can go inside of the bootloader.ini for each title? I want to run this homebrew Quake application in DSi Mode and Direct Boot so that it can use the extra RAM, but I don't know what settings to put in the config file, and there's no documentation on launch options on the Github wiki.

kristianity77 · Jan 18, 2020

Is this a viable option now for running Ds games in a 3ds or is a ds cart still the best way to go for ease of use or "it just works"

MarioKartFan · Jan 18, 2020

Extremely viable. Works extraordinarily well for nearly every game.

RocketRobz · Jan 18, 2020

Orangy57 said:
Is there a list of launch options that can go inside of the bootloader.ini for each title? I want to run this homebrew Quake application in DSi Mode and Direct Boot so that it can use the extra RAM, but I don't know what settings to put in the config file, and there's no documentation on launch options on the Github wiki.

You have to enable those options using TWiLight Menu++.

orangy57 · Jan 18, 2020

Robz8 said:
You have to enable those options using TWiLight Menu++.

But if the options exist, is there a way to enable them without using twilightmenu? Back when nds-bootsrap was SRLoader and twilightmenu wasn't out yet, couldn't you configure each game's settings through the ini files?

RocketRobz · Jan 18, 2020

Orangy57 said:
But if the options exist, is there a way to enable them without using twilightmenu? Back when nds-bootsrap was SRLoader and twilightmenu wasn't out yet, couldn't you configure each game's settings through the ini files?

Correction: TWiLight Menu++ was SRLoader.
nds-bootstrap was always nds-bootstrap.

Plus, the per-game settings are stored in "sd:/_nds/TWiLightMenu/gamesettings/".

Hammyface · Jan 19, 2020

kristianity77 said:
Is this a viable option now for running Ds games in a 3ds or is a ds cart still the best way to go for ease of use or "it just works"

It's even better because most flash carts these days kill the battery life, even in sleep mode.

Kurt91 · Jan 19, 2020

If you don't mind my asking, how's the compatibility with HeartGold/SoulSilver? I tried to play HeartGold back on the DS using a DSTT, and found out that there was a sort of anti-piracy thing where the timing being minutely different caused the game to lock up incredibly frequently.

I've been playing the entire series from Gen 1 forward, and using tools like PokeGen to copy my team each time I move up to a new game. I'm currently on FireRed, and the next games on the list are the DS ones. Remembering my earlier issues is making me a little nervous about when I get to that point.

Captain Library · Jan 21, 2020

Kurt91 said:
If you don't mind my asking, how's the compatibility with HeartGold/SoulSilver? I tried to play HeartGold back on the DS using a DSTT, and found out that there was a sort of anti-piracy thing where the timing being minutely different caused the game to lock up incredibly frequently.

There're AP measures within Twilight Menu++ but I have been having random freezing issues in HGSS using the latest bootstrap - frequent enough to be a problem.

I had similar issues in Diamond but it was much worse in the Underground than anywhere else.

RocketRobz · Jan 24, 2020

Captain Library said:
There're AP measures within Twilight Menu++ but I have been having random freezing issues in HGSS using the latest bootstrap - frequent enough to be a problem.

I had similar issues in Diamond but it was much worse in the Underground than anywhere else.

ROMs are automatically AP-patched.
If there's still freezes, then it's an nds-bootstrap issue.
Try updating to latest nightly, and see if it's fixed there.

Hylianzero · Jan 25, 2020

Is there any way to use active cheats in DS games loaded this way? That's the only thing that my DSTT has over this and I'd love to just completely switch over.

SkyDX · Jan 25, 2020

Say is there any chance Twilight Menu itself will be widescreen on 3DS's eventually?

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Hylianzero said:
Is there any way to use active cheats in DS games loaded this way? That's the only thing that my DSTT has over this and I'd love to just completely switch over.

Yes, just download the cheat-database with the Twilight Menu Updater and then press Y and then X when selecting your games

RocketRobz · Jan 25, 2020

SkyDX said:
Say is there any chance Twilight Menu itself will be widescreen on 3DS's eventually?

Maybe when we're able to change aspect ratio with RTCOM.

Also, any future TWLMenu++ question goes to it's respective thread.

RocketRobz · Jan 25, 2020

I have two good news!

A few weeks ago, @shutterbug2000 has managed to get DSiWare working on hardware as well! Previously, they would only work on NO$GBA.
soon: Photo
As of currently, only the Japanese version of Wario: Master of Disguise (shown below) works, but in the next version of nds-bootstrap, thanks to @ahezard's new and improved DMA patching code, the USA/EUR versions will work as well!

Alexander1970 · Jan 25, 2020

Robz8 said:
I have two good news!

A few weeks ago, @shutterbug2000 has managed to get DSiWare working on hardware as well! Previously, they would only work on NO$GBA.
soon: Photo

As of currently, only the Japanese version of this game (shown below) works, but in the next version of nds-bootstrap, thanks to @ahezard's new and improved DMA patching code, the USA/EUR versions will work as well!

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Many,many Thanks,my Friends.

My Respect

@shutterbug2000
@ahezard
@Robz8

for this Milestone in DSi Homebrew. :bow:

Thank you for your tireless progression Work

lemmings123 · Jan 27, 2020

Hi. Im having an issue with rom 1541-chessmaster eur on my 3ds. Using latest twilight menu but it freezes on the white screen after the bootstrap logo. Compatibility list says it should work on 0.17.1. Also tried this version and it gets a little further to the main menu when entering name then crashes. Have tried 4-5 different roms and checked sd for errors. No issue with card. Any settings i need to apply? Thanks in advance

Edit....just to add ive no issues with any other rom

lemmings123 · Jan 27, 2020

Hi. Im having an issue with rom 1541-chessmaster eur on my 3ds. Using latest twilight menu but it freezes on the white screen after the bootstrap logo. Compatibility list says it should work on 0.17.1. Also tried this version and it gets a little further to the main menu when entering name then crashes. Have tried 4-5 different roms and checked sd for errors. No issue with card. Any settings i need to apply? Thanks in advance

RocketRobz · Jan 27, 2020

lemmings123 said:
Hi. Im having an issue with rom 1541-chessmaster eur on my 3ds. Using latest twilight menu but it freezes on the white screen after the bootstrap logo. Compatibility list says it should work on 0.17.1. Also tried this version and it gets a little further to the main menu when entering name then crashes. Have tried 4-5 different roms and checked sd for errors. No issue with card. Any settings i need to apply? Thanks in advance

Edit....just to add ive no issues with any other rom

Revert back to the latest nds-bootstrap version, and disable heap shrink in the per-game settings.

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