Rocket League is ending support for Linux and macOS (UPDATE)

nachodorito · Jan 24, 2020

Memoir said:
It's also partly why I won't go back. There's an obscene elitism among a pretty good chunk of the Linux community. Especially when it comes down to "how it works". This isn't the first time I've gotten some backlash for sharing my experience with Linux and how it just didn't work out. Probably won't be the last, either.

There's a lot to learn when switching to Linux. It's not as plug n' play as someone like Pragma wants you to believe. Whether it's the obsessively overbearing command line. Or how the package manager works within your flavor of Linux. It's not perfect. It can work for you if it's what you need. For the average user? Not so much.

I get ya, my first laptop was killed because I installed ubuntu at the wrong time. People think macOS and Linux aren't used at all, but the creative apps on Mac, and server solutions on Linux are one of the best.

Xzi · Jan 24, 2020

Now they're telling Linux/Mac users to refund the game, and all refunds are being denied. What a bunch of wankers.

The Catboy · Jan 24, 2020

ChibiMofo said:
C'mon ppl. The Desktop Wars were fought a long time ago and MSFT won easily. There's no reason for a smaller dev to waste what little resources they have making games for people who knowingly use the losing platform(s). This has been true since the early 90s, so there's no need to act surprised nearly 30 years on. And no, 2021 is not going to be the Year of Linux on the Desktop any more than 1997 was.

"Small devs," Psyonix is literally owned by Epic, they aren't small anymore. As well they were doing just fine until they were bought out by Epic. This isn't about some OS wars, Epic has a record of being openly hostile towards Linux users in particular and now it seems they are going after macOS users as well
https://twitter.com/taciturasa/status/1125106408196907008?s=20
In short, Epic doesn't like anything other than Windows and anything they buy they pull the support for different operating systems. They are deliberately cutting off fans who don't use Windows because Epic refuses to support any other OS.

Kioku · Jan 24, 2020

Xzi said:
Now they're telling Linux/Mac users to refund the game, and all refunds are being denied. What a bunch of wankers.

It's so sad. An official member of Psyonix telling people to request a refund through their official support channels. Who, in turn, direct you to Steam.. Who just say "lol no". Quite the trip! I'd get a refund.. If I didn't get the game through humble bundle 4 years ago.

Silent_Gunner · Jan 25, 2020

Xzi said:
Now they're telling Linux/Mac users to refund the game, and all refunds are being denied. What a bunch of wankers.

This is almost like Ooblets 2.0. I've never seen a company ever promote being a fucking dick to paying customers on this level.

Can't wait for other companies to start using their own engines and for Epic to become a beggar, only to get torn to shreds the moment they try to win people back!

Armadillo · Jan 25, 2020

Psyonix posted an update on reddit.

https://old.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/etiih3/update_on_refunds_for_macos_and_linux_players/

Refunds available, was supposed to be coordinated with Steam, but in normal Psyonix fashion, something got fucked up.
Moving from DX9 to DX11 and that's why macOS and Linux support is being dropped.

HarveyHouston · Jan 25, 2020

You know, they could still do it. They're just saying "We don't care enough about Linux and Mac OS (or anything else Unix-based) to support them."

Bladexdsl · Jan 25, 2020

i doubt one person even played it on them platforms

LightBeam · Jan 25, 2020

Bladexdsl said:
i doubt one person even played it on them platforms

Well, then you are wrong

Pipistrele · Jan 25, 2020

Disappointing, but understandable from business standpoint - it's most likely just not worth it to support two relatively unpopular gaming platforms, and there are probably better things to spend that extra time/money on.

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nachodorito said:
I get ya, my first laptop was killed because I installed ubuntu at the wrong time. People think macOS and Linux aren't used at all, but the creative apps on Mac, and server solutions on Linux are one of the best.

AFAIK, when people say nobody uses Linux, they usually mean Linux Desktop. I mean, everyone in the industry uses Linux for servers and all sorts of specific devices - but barely anyone aside of specific hobbyists ever installs Linux on their PC, because Desktop Linux is, let's be honest here, just kind of jank.

LightBeam · Jan 25, 2020

Pipistrele said:
Disappointing, but understandable from business standpoint - it's most likely just not worth it to support two relatively unpopular gaming platforms, and there are probably better things to spend that extra time/money on.

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AFAIK, when people say nobody uses Linux, they usually mean Linux Desktop. I mean, everyone in the industry uses Linux for servers and all sorts of specific devices - but barely anyone aside of specific hobbyists ever installs Linux on their PC, because Desktop Linux is, let's be honest here, just kind of jank.

Meh, If you just want to give a second youth to an old PC that anyway won't be able to do anything but office work, Linux is a very good choice and will be much more stable than Windows, so I don't necessarily agree. Basically, it's just that everyone is much more used to Windows and it's much easier to use despite its many flaws.

Pipistrele · Jan 25, 2020

LightBeam said:
Meh, If you just want to give a second youth to an old PC that anyway won't be able to do anything but office work, Linux is a very good choice and will be much more stable than Windows, so I don't necessarily agree. Basically, it's just that everyone is much more used to Windows and it's much easier to use despite its many flaws.

For sure, Desktop Linux has its share of good use cases (installing Lubuntu/Xubuntu on old PC for example). Still, after using both Windows and Ubuntu/Debian for enough time, I think it just comes down to Windows being more reliable where it counts - I don't have to go into adventures to fix my Wi-Fi due to having an HP notebook, I don't have to deal with very specific issues such as touchpad delay or self-disconnecting Bluetooth module, I don't have to constantly jump between software installation methods (where some stuff is installed through "apt-get", some through code compiling, some through snaps), and many other "I don't have to" that make Linux feel pretty janky in comparison to any well-developed proprietary OC. As much as I love Linux for fascinating FOSS movement behind it, the it-just-works appeal of Windows and MacOS is unbeatable in the long run (unless you're the kind of person who just likes tinkering with things).

GenoJasonA · Jan 25, 2020

Oh no! if only there was a way to install windows on a Mac.... oh wait

RedBlueGreen · Jan 25, 2020

PRAGMA said:
This is annoying me greatly...
I moved to Arch linux last september and I havent looked back since, the only games I ever want to play on my Linux machine is Overwatch (runs flawlessly thanks to Wine) and Rocket League (Native). I barely get the time to play anymore, and now you're restricting my options, fuck you.

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Also can everyone stop hating on Linux and MacOS, people have justified reasons to use them, I bloody hate people shitting on Linux especially, just because it's not what everyone uses. Think about it for a minute why people are even using Linux if Windows is so great...

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Honestly I bet the people on this thread hating linux hasnt even used Linux, and if they have, it was through a shitty and buggy VM instance (probably even Ubuntu).

The only reason I use Windows is because it's so user friendly and pretty much everything runs on it, and is designed with it in mind. If Linux got the same official support as Windows and there was a distro that was as easy to use as Windows I'd be using Linux.

I've considered just dual booting and using Linux for productivity, but so much stuff runs on Windows only, and I don't feel like playing with Wine, or having Windows 10 on a VM just for things that don't support Linux.

codezer0 · Jan 26, 2020

the_randomizer said:
People game on Mac OS?

Sorry, but Mac OS is not a true gaming OS, Linux is better suited, as is Windows 10

To be fair, it used to be... ironically one of their best showings was the MacOS PPC port of UT 2004. At the time, the G5 just launched and my first exposure to the game was on a store demo unit that had the game installed. It was also the first time I was able to ever run a game on literal maximum settings. Everything, and I mean, EVERYTHING, turned on, on a big ol' 30" display. So big, I literally had to crane my head around to see the whole hud, let alone all the action. Back in a time period where the best on PC was still a single-core Athlon64 and dual 6800 Ultra's in SLI, and it still couldn't reliably hit the performance the Mac build was doing.

Compared to that, I'd more likely argue that Linux isn't a real gaming OS. it's still has its strengths in handling the servers. but for desktop? Yeah, no, not ever. Not kidding when I say the only *nix based anything that hasn't made me cry in frustration has been Mac OS X. There's STILL basic things expected of a desktop OS that Linux is miserable at handling. Hell, effing Windows 98 and DOS is better at handling multiple sound cards than Linux is. It's arguable if anyone that champions Linux for desktop even uses anything beyond a $2 realtek chip, let alone anything that does any real audio processing.

It's like ever since tasting that lootbox money, Tim Sweeney went from being the guy that was the only dev willing to give the PS3 architecture a legit shot and make UT3 as fast as it was, to "lol screw everyone" and make all these anti-consumer decisions that just piss everyone off.

Ericthegreat · Jan 26, 2020

Chary said:
Except those on macOS and Linux. They don't use a real OS, they're not real people. - Epic, probably.

Worst case scenario, you've got Steam's proton compatibility for Linux and Bootcamp for Mac, but that's still annoying. Don't try to phrase it like you're helping your userbase when you're taking choices away from them. Just man up and say you don't want to develop for the platform if you have to be that lazy.

Could be something weird like they know direct x 13 is coming (Though I doubt it), but probably 98% of players are on windows, and there's probably been a lot less players recently, and management is cutting cost.

Forgotten_Email · Jan 26, 2020

This wouldn't be as big of a problem since Proton is compatible, I think...

Knowing Epic Games, they'll probably pull the game from Steam which will mean you'll have to use Lutris but that's got problems with Lutris

Silent_Gunner · Jan 26, 2020

Forgotten_Email said:
This wouldn't be as big of a problem since Proton is compatible, I think...

Knowing Epic Games, they'll probably pull the game from Steam which will mean you'll have to use Lutris but that's got problems with Lutris

Proton is more of a solution because of the lack of a native port for a game. It's like (This is a comparison, not a statement on what is and isn't) having to play a game via an emulator as opposed to it being coded to run on as many different pieces of hardware natively as possible.

Basically, imagine what people have done with Doom 1 and 2 on so many different devices, and compare that with the amount of devices running Doom 2016.

Joom · Jan 26, 2020

the_randomizer said:
People game on Mac OS?

Sorry, but Mac OS is not a true gaming OS, Linux is better suited, as is Windows 10

Uh, what? Macs have had better proprietary video support than Linux since...forever, and always will. There's a reason why media creators prefer them. This is the most ignorant thing I've read in a while.

GenoJasonA said:
Oh no! if only there was a way to install windows on a Mac.... oh wait

Gross.

Forgotten_Email · Jan 28, 2020

Silent_Gunner said:
Proton is more of a solution because of the lack of a native port for a game. It's like (This is a comparison, not a statement on what is and isn't) having to play a game via an emulator as opposed to it being coded to run on as many different pieces of hardware natively as possible.

Basically, imagine what people have done with Doom 1 and 2 on so many different devices, and compare that with the amount of devices running Doom 2016.

I'm talking about this from the perspective of Epic, who an see how Linux isn't viable cost-wise unless things improve rapidly or Microsoft messes up really badly

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