Hacking 3DS NOOB PARADISE - Ask questions here

Grimm · Jan 19, 2020

Hello all. Long time member, havent posted in awhile. I used to be on here from time to time back during the NDS lite/Acekard era. Just getting back into this with a 3ds I picked up. I softmodded it with Luma by following the guide and I have it all set up.

I am having a problem with Dragon Quest VIII though which is such that I only have a .3ds file of the game which is too big to fit on my fat32 card to convert it to .cia. I cant seem to find a .cia version anywhere and all my efforts to convert the 3ds file to cia on my pc dont seem to be working...

Any ideas how I might be able to get this one going...? Help would be much appreciated..

Quantumcat · Jan 19, 2020

Try using this python program to convert on your computer https://github.com/ihaveamac/3dsconv/releases

Kefke_Wren · Jan 19, 2020

KleinesSinchen said:
Did the test finish without any error on empty SD?

These hash verification failures normally mean bad CIA if I remember correctly. But this does not sound plausible when dumping two working carts and downloading from somewhere.

Please try dumping your games to a different SD (which also passed the test) even if you got no errors on your main SD.

Allow me to clarify, I know that the SD "definitely hasn't" come to the end of its actual storage because I can put other files on it and install them successfully, even in excess of the largest file that has failed to install, and because the errors that I've gotten in both FBI and Big Blue Menu tell me that it's a problem with the file being read coming up as invalid, not with the storage. It is unlikely, if not impossible, that would be the case with a bad SD card, and I'm not going to waste money on a second SD, nor time on making a complete backup of the card's entire contents, on the remote chance that somehow two files keep getting written to a bad sector and nothing else does.

TurdPooCharger · Jan 19, 2020

Kefke_Wren said:
Allow me to clarify, I know that the SD "definitely hasn't" come to the end of its actual storage because I can put other files on it and install them successfully, even in excess of the largest file that has failed to install, and because the errors that I've gotten in both FBI and Big Blue Menu tell me that it's a problem with the file being read coming up as invalid, not with the storage. It is unlikely, if not impossible, that would be the case with a bad SD card, and I'm not going to waste money on a second SD, nor time on making a complete backup of the card's entire contents, on the remote chance that somehow two files keep getting written to a bad sector and nothing else does.

Then don't bother asking why your data keeps getting corrupted. If you're not going to go through the proper procedure of copying everything off your SD card, reformatting it in FAT32 + 32 KB cluster, and hardware testing its condition with H2testw program with it starting empty, then you'll never know whether or not your card is a convincing counterfeit/knock off/fake, or it's dead reaching the EoL read/write cycles.

Kefke_Wren · Jan 20, 2020

TurdPooCharger said:
Then don't bother asking why your data keeps getting corrupted. If you're not going to go through the proper procedure of copying everything off your SD card, reformatting it in FAT32 + 32 KB cluster, and hardware testing its condition with H2testw program with it starting empty, then you'll never know whether or not your card is a convincing counterfeit/knock off/fake, or it's dead reaching the EoL read/write cycles.

As I have previously stated (twice now), the card is 100% functional with everything except two games, which fail to install regardless of the source for the file, even after previous versions have been completely removed. That is not how corruption works.

When I am suggested a solution for a problem that doesn't involve quantum mechanics to even be possible I will be happy to try that. Until then, all I have to say is to please consider the information you are given, and whether the cause you are suggesting might have already been ruled out before attempting to give advice.

TurdPooCharger · Jan 20, 2020

Kefke_Wren said:
As I have previously stated (twice now), the card is 100% functional with everything except two games, which fail to install regardless of the source for the file, even after previous versions have been completely removed. That is not how corruption works.

When I am suggested a solution for a problem that doesn't involve quantum mechanics to even be possible I will be happy to try that. Until then, all I have to say is to please consider the information you are given, and whether the cause you are suggesting might have already been ruled out before attempting to give advice.

You do realize that fake or faulty SD cards can allow you to write files onto them but can't reliably hold onto the data due to getting overwritten with new incoming data, right?

Counterfeiters can falsify the stated capacity of the card on both the outside printed label and what Windows File Explorer sees. The real or actual capacity these fake cards have is usually much lower. Counterfeiters will rehash bad or failed production batch cards and sell them to unsuspecting buyers who don't know any better from genuine cards. Using a fake SD card is like trying to fill 1 gallon of water into a 1 cup container while thinking this whole time your container has a gallon capacity when it does not. In the case of the SD card, you can't visually see that container to know if it's really 1 gallon or 1 cup.

What Sinchen suggested with H2testw/F3/F3X is standard practice of testing and verifying flash storage devices whether they have their nand cells fully functional and intact. It's not voodoo magic or rocketry science.

ChibiMofo · Jan 20, 2020

Kefke_Wren said:
As I have previously stated (twice now), the card is 100% functional with everything except two games, which fail to install regardless of the source for the file, even after previous versions have been completely removed. That is not how corruption works.

When I am suggested a solution for a problem that doesn't involve quantum mechanics to even be possible I will be happy to try that. Until then, all I have to say is to please consider the information you are given, and whether the cause you are suggesting might have already been ruled out before attempting to give advice.

You're not gonna get much help in this forum unless your attitude improves. Invoking quantum mechanics was way off the mark. They are in fact under no obligation to help you at all and yet here they are, asking you to do something quite reasonable based on your description. You are more than welcome to try your luck asking over on Reddit.
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Quantumcat · Jan 20, 2020

There are only two explanations that we know of, a bad SD or bad files. Given that you've tried multiple sources, unless you've gotten very unlucky with the downloaded ones and there is an as yet unknown issue with GodMode9 dumping both those particular games then the issue must be your SD card. Everyone is going to assume that is the case unless you do the test and show that it isn't. Even if you do prove that your SD card is fine, you'll probably have to investigate on your own as I for one can't think of any other explanation (you can probably start by trying to install the games on another console and see what happens).

If you do work it out and it isn't because of your SD card then please let us know so we can use the information to help others in future.

Kefke_Wren · Jan 20, 2020

TurdPooCharger said:
You do realize that fake or faulty SD cards can allow you to write files onto them but can't reliably hold onto the data due to getting overwritten with new incoming data, right?

Counterfeiters can falsify the stated capacity of the card on both the outside printed label and what Windows File Explorer sees. The real or actual capacity these fake cards have is usually much lower. Counterfeiters will rehash bad or failed production batch cards and sell them to unsuspecting buyers who don't know any better from genuine cards. Using a fake SD card is like trying to fill 1 gallon of water into a 1 cup container while thinking this whole time your container has a gallon capacity when it does not. In the case of the SD card, you can't visually see that container to know if it's really 1 gallon or 1 cup.

What Sinchen suggested with H2testw/F3/F3X is standard practice of testing and verifying flash storage devices whether they have their nand cells fully functional and intact. It's not voodoo magic or rocketry science.

I don't know how else to tell you that the behaviour I'm experiencing isn't consistent with that explanation. No files are being overwritten. The card is not out of memory. I have tried using an undub file that is smaller than the file that failed and had the same error, only to thereafter have installed other games with larger filesizes that installed successfully, ran correctly, and did not cause any other errors elsewhere. Then I went back and ripped one of the two offending carts again and it still didn't work. That would be like if a cup could hold three gallons of water, but not a single gallon of milk.

I may not know a great deal about the 3DS in particular, but I do know computer systems in general. That is not what one would expect to happen if it was a bad card. The fact that it's only happening with certain software (and that it happens consistently with said software, but not other programs) would more likely be indicative of some form of copy protection - which seems unlikely, as I am aware of other people being able to run said software without issue - or with some inability to correctly read the files in question stemming from a problem either in the hardware or system files. Which is what I was hoping someone would recognize and be able to offer a fix for. Hopefully a "reinstall this" or "overwrite X with Y" kind of fix, but in worst case "replace your 3DS" would at least tell me I should just accept having to switch carts out for now. Continuing to suggest I look for a problem with the SD card when that cannot possibly be occurring is not helpful.

Quantumcat · Jan 20, 2020

Kefke_Wren said:
I don't know how else to tell you that the behaviour I'm experiencing isn't consistent with that explanation. No files are being overwritten. The card is not out of memory. I have tried using an undub file that is smaller than the file that failed and had the same error, only to thereafter have installed other games with larger filesizes that installed successfully, ran correctly, and did not cause any other errors elsewhere. Then I went back and ripped one of the two offending carts again and it still didn't work. That would be like if a cup could hold three gallons of water, but not a single gallon of milk.

I may not know a great deal about the 3DS in particular, but I do know computer systems in general. That is not what one would expect to happen if it was a bad card. The fact that it's only happening with certain software (and that it happens consistently with said software, but not other programs) would more likely be indicative of some form of copy protection - which seems unlikely, as I am aware of other people being able to run said software without issue - or with some inability to correctly read the files in question stemming from a problem either in the hardware or system files. Which is what I was hoping someone would recognize and be able to offer a fix for. Hopefully a "reinstall this" or "overwrite X with Y" kind of fix, but in worst case "replace your 3DS" would at least tell me I should just accept having to switch carts out for now. Continuing to suggest I look for a problem with the SD card when that cannot possibly be occurring is not helpful.

Then, as per my reply, you're going to have to figure it out for yourself because the only explanations we know are bad SD or bad files (edit - or inability to install anything which would be something wrong with your title db - but that is ruled out as you said you can install other things).

You have tested multiple sources so it seems very unlikely to be bad files and you are convinced it isn't a bad SD, so there's noting further we can do for you sorry.

wormdood · Jan 20, 2020

Kefke_Wren said:
I don't know how else to tell you that the behaviour I'm experiencing isn't consistent with that explanation. No files are being overwritten. The card is not out of memory. I have tried using an undub file that is smaller than the file that failed and had the same error, only to thereafter have installed other games with larger filesizes that installed successfully, ran correctly, and did not cause any other errors elsewhere. Then I went back and ripped one of the two offending carts again and it still didn't work. That would be like if a cup could hold three gallons of water, but not a single gallon of milk.

I may not know a great deal about the 3DS in particular, but I do know computer systems in general. That is not what one would expect to happen if it was a bad card. The fact that it's only happening with certain software (and that it happens consistently with said software, but not other programs) would more likely be indicative of some form of copy protection - which seems unlikely, as I am aware of other people being able to run said software without issue - or with some inability to correctly read the files in question stemming from a problem either in the hardware or system files. Which is what I was hoping someone would recognize and be able to offer a fix for. Hopefully a "reinstall this" or "overwrite X with Y" kind of fix, but in worst case "replace your 3DS" would at least tell me I should just accept having to switch carts out for now. Continuing to suggest I look for a problem with the SD card when that cannot possibly be occurring is not helpful.

you are wrong it can still be a possibility as your SD card is your primary way of communicating any software files to your 3DS including the ones you use to hack your console an improper write to your SD card does not have to come from your SD card they can be the fault of your SD reader or a MicroSD to SD converter... no one is trying to waste your time we're simply trying to troubleshoot your problem any active troubleshooting starts with trying to fix the most common cause of the problem and the most common cause of not being able to install a CIA file is a bad SD card and or corruption on the SD card ... honestly if I had to guess based on the information you gave I would say that there is definitely corruption on your SD card likely within your title ID folder specifically with it having garbled junk in place of those games IDs ... by the way I had the same problem while ago with Pokemon Omega Ruby and Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon and the problem persisted until my SD card got corrupted one day and I had to start over as I didn't have a backup after freshly reformatting the card the two games I had problems with installed correctly just saying I know you don't understand how it could help and it may not necessarily but it indeed can help

Edit: Also I don't mean to nitpick but you claimed that it's happening to different softwares when in reality the only software you're using at the time is FBI so in reality it's happening in the same software

Hyperbola · Jan 20, 2020

Hey, so I haven't been keeping up with hacking-related stuff since around early 2017 and would love some recommendations from y'all on how to go forward and update my CFW, Luma, etc.

I opened up my settings and it currently is "Sys 11.6.0.39J" and I opened Luma and it says I have "Luma Updater v2.3" and Sighax current installed version 9.0 and FBI v2.4.6. If there's anything else y'all need to know to give me recommendations, please do ask.

Right now all I care about is playing Mario Kart 7 online and I think (?) my current digital version is a freeware game? Just figured I would mention this since I saw some stuff posted about the dangers of freeware and v11.8. Am I able to still use this freeware game or do i need to use a CIA and/or the actual game cart (which I also have)? Thanks y'all, any recommendations help, even if someone can just link me to a relevant tutorial thread or whatever.

LuigiXL · Jan 20, 2020

I have a plethora of ds flash cards and I converted one to NTRBOOT which worked perfectly, now id like to use it on another OFW console, the problem i have is i now dont know which of the carts it was! Is there a way to tell? I have a CFW system if it helps.

KleinesSinchen · Jan 20, 2020

LuigiXL said:
I have a plethora of ds flash cards and I converted one to NTRBOOT which worked perfectly, now id like to use it on another OFW console, the problem i have is i now dont know which of the carts it was! Is there a way to tell? I have a CFW system if it helps.

When flashed to ntrboot mode nothing shows up in the Home Menu when inserting the cartridge (except for Acekard 2i which shows an Acekard logo instead of faking some DS game). GodMode9 does not show anything either but says cart init failed when inserting an ntrboot cart (except for Acekard 2i again)

Showing nothing is not really helpful because this is the same as contact issues which flashcarts sometimes have (this is one of the many possible causes of failure when trying the ntrboot method).

But if it is not an Acekard and shows up on Home Menu you know it is not flashed to ntrboot. You should have created a backup right before injecting ntrboot which can be found on SD:/ntrboot/cart-name-backup.bin
This name should tell you to which family the cart belongs.

FortDefender · Jan 22, 2020

I am totally new to this but I was wondering if there was a way to transfer a GBA hack file to a 3DS game cartridge. I know I would have to do some editing to my 3DS, but I just wanted to know the extent.
Thanks

FortDefender · Jan 22, 2020

Edit: Double Post

FortDefender · Jan 22, 2020

Edit: Double Post

FortDefender · Jan 22, 2020

I was trying to post the message above but didn’t have a log in. It posted three times once I logged in.

Kateywumpus · Jan 22, 2020

Noob question: Now that I've successfully got my 2DS to run homebrew, is there a way to run 3ds titles from the flashcart? Or does it all have to be done from the internal SDMC card?

Ricken · Jan 22, 2020

Kateywumpus said:
Noob question: Now that I've successfully got my 2DS to run homebrew, is there a way to run 3ds titles from the flashcart? Or does it all have to be done from the internal SDMC card?

All of your 3DS games have to be installed to your system's SD card
You can, however, put NDS games on the flashcart at the very least

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