Nintendo of America has filed a trademark for Mario & Luigi series

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Time will tell if there's still a future for any future Mario & Luigi RPG games, as Nintendo has filed for a trademark for the series. In 2019, the developer of the Mario & Luigi franchise, AlphaDream, shut its doors after going bankrupt due to the poor performance of their titles. The trademark document was signed last week by Nintendo of America through an agency in Argentina, and covers products related to the Mario & Luigi series, such as game carts, memory cards, accessories, and software.

Whether or not this means anything significant is yet to be seen, of course, as Nintendo itself hasn't made any announcements about future games in the series. And, it's important to note that while Nintendo is going to the effort of renewing the trademark, it could just be to protect their IP, or for any remaining sales of last year's Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey for the Nintendo 3DS. Especially as this is a trademark relating to Nintendo's American branch, rather than from Japan.

You can see the trademark for yourself, below, discovered originally by Dutch website Let's Go Digital.

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So, since AlphaDream is out of the picture now, I wonder what company Nintendo would pick to make a new Mario & Luigi game. I mean, it's got to happen at some point. Didn't Miyamoto say that Paper Mario got changed into what it is now because he feels that the M&L series fills in the need for a semi-traditional RPG series, and that the classic Paper Mario formula was abandoned because it was redundant? So, that would mean that we'd either get a new M&L game to justify continuing the "modern" Paper Mario games, or we'll get a new Paper Mario game with the classic formula again.

this was always an excuse to experiment with paper mario. the turned based combat of the first two paper mario games are nothing alike to mario and luigi’s. I honestly think Nintendo thought the M&L games wouldn’t sell well if paper mario kept to a proper rpg formula.
 

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Oh my, thanks for providing Nintendo's legal address here lol
Ontopic, reading through it I don't really think this signifies anything new related to M&L. Unless Nintendo decides to start selling themed Mario and Luigi phone covers for whatever reason, the safest assumption would be that it's for brand protection, so that other entities can't do the same
 

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Knowing Nintendo, this doesn't mean a whole lot. They probably just want to stop ROM hacks and fangames in their tracks, as always.

It would be nice if they gave Paper Mario another chance at the limelight, with Mario & Luigi taking the back seat for a while. I always preferred the story in Paper Mario 1-2 and Super Paper Mario over M&L, and the partner system made battles more interesting. M&L is fine too, but I have a hard time getting into the games, the only one I've actually beaten is Dream Team Bros. I don't get hooked like I did with the first 3 Paper Marios.
Now would be the perfect time to do that. One can hope...
 

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Why do they need to trademark "Mario & Luigi" when they already own "Mario" & "Luigi"

because copy right laws in north america are a corrupt. if NoA wouldn’t of kept the trademark claim up to date, i could of came in and grabbed it for myself. i could than create a piece of software titled Mario and Luigi without any connection to the plumbers at all.
 

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because copy right laws in north america are a corrupt. if NoA wouldn’t of kept the trademark claim up to date, i could of came in and grabbed it for myself. i could than create a piece of software titled Mario and Luigi without any connection to the plumbers at all.
Copyright was never designed to prevent that sort of thing, and is not done that way anywhere (or at least anywhere with a notable production of IP).

Copyright is for specific works and certain sub elements thereof. Theoretically they expire but for the US then as it is a new year we do get some new ones, this year is the turn of 1924 -- https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2020/
Trademarks are for general concepts, and need to be narrowed down to categories. They are designed to prevent confusion for your brand in the eyes of the general public or your main customers by avoiding having products named the same thing. The do expire being you can renew them, and do have to defend them (see what is said when most fan games get smacked down, and also stuff like the let's play video agreements that companies put out there).
Patents are for items, and if you live in a backwater like the US and Japan then some aspects of software and DNA sequences too (the rest of the world says software is maths and you can't patent maths) and possibly ways of doing business. We tend to see this less in games but the hardware is a thing -- I think we are now free of NES dpad patents (though controllers are commonly a source for this sort of thing), and software wise I don't know what I have seen lately and probably will have to go back to sega's smooth camera transition for anything anybody got upset over https://gamnesia.nintendoenthusiast...-and-sony-over-certain-camera-features-in-th/
There are further options (service marks, design rights, registered designs) and distinctions in certain fields but enough of that for now and they vary between places and don't tend to come up -- some of the things with design in the name occasionally specify colours for certain items so can make some trouble at times if someone tries to match the colours.

As for why then while I would not like to face off against Nintendo with them owning both the Mario and Luigi franchise (see also Bethesda vs Mojang with "scrolls" https://www.theverge.com/2012/3/10/2860164/mojang-bethesda-scrolls-trademark-dispute , or more recently Bethesda and redfall https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/a-sci-fi-author-is-disputing-a-possible-elder-scrolls-trademark/ *) is a specific work somewhat distinct from the platformers, and this sort of thing often includes a logo or phrase as well. It is fairly cheap to do, nobody is likely to object to it, it might help your accountant at some level (while said trademarks are often valued at $5 or something silly that is a different discussion) and it covers your arse.

*speculation being here that it could be an Elder Scrolls 6 subtitle, though it is also a fairly key aspect of the franchise so it might just be basics (I will have to do some research but I would bet a substantial sum that when pokemon was first rising that while Nintendo probably did not have every pokemon trademarked that pikachu was fully locked down, same idea for that).
 

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https://www.giantbomb.com/radar-scope/3030-20776/ was a hit in Japan thts all nintendo would care about and had anyone even heard of Nintendo outside Japan 1979:lol: and how dare you critisize a game early as tht as video games were still in its infant years :D

Had it not been for Donkey Kong that game would have killed Nintendo in America.

While yes the game was not bad, there was a ton of similar games at the time so Arcades were not interested in buying more of the same.
 

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