Block Wii U System Updates (Without DNS Blocking!)

fertile_ape · Jan 9, 2020

hello. No matter what I try through ftp client when connecting to Nintendo wii u nand, it keeps telling me "failed to retrieve directory" error through FileZilla, same through other ftp clients, I can't see the directory folders. I don't know how to fix this, am I ok with just dns blocking updates, but then will be unable to update games? Please any help would be appreciated, I've been stressing out over this.

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Hello. No matter what I try while following these steps, I am getting "failed to retrieve directory" error through FileZilla ftp client. I launch ftpiiu.elf, then enter the ip and port into filezilla. I am seeing the root directory of the nand, but am not able to see anything else when exploring it tells me "failed to retrieve directory".

This has been stressing me out. Should I just block updating through dns? But then I won't be able to update games? Please help.

godreborn · Jan 9, 2020

there are two ftpii everywhere. are you sure you have the right one? one is for mocha; the other for haxchi.

fertile_ape · Jan 9, 2020

Thanks for responding.
Yes I am using haxchi, following through the instructions in Kafluke's guide. Then I am taking the corresponding steps, I downloaded ftpiiu_everywhere for haxchi and followed the steps for haxchi.

I tried another ftp client, cyberduck, with the same results: I can see the root directory of the wii u, but when double-clicking on the storage_mlc folder I am unable to see its contents. For FileZilla it reports "failed to retrieve directory".

Thank you for any help. I am currently going with the dns method, but would like this to get working, if possible.

nexusmtz · Jan 10, 2020

Although you've said you're using Haxchi, have you executed it twice? You need to run it the first time and select your sysmenu button (if it's not the default) to patch the system, then run it again and select your HBL button. If you're only running it once to get HBL, you haven't patched the system, so the directories won't be there.

laz305 · Mar 25, 2020

fertile_ape said:
Thanks for responding.
Yes I am using haxchi, following through the instructions in Kafluke's guide. Then I am taking the corresponding steps, I downloaded ftpiiu_everywhere for haxchi and followed the steps for haxchi.

I tried another ftp client, cyberduck, with the same results: I can see the root directory of the wii u, but when double-clicking on the storage_mlc folder I am unable to see its contents. For FileZilla it reports "failed to retrieve directory".

Thank you for any help. I am currently going with the dns method, but would like this to get working, if possible.

Sounds like you are not on the same network as your WiFi

yellowsnow4free · Mar 30, 2020

Hi Madridi, I came here from Kafluke's "noob guide" thread.

I've installed Haxchi and backed up my sysNAND, but I haven't blocked updates yet.

I followed your instructions here, but on my Wii U all my folders are empty inside with the exception of "sd". So there is no sys folder under storage_mlc. On FileZilla it gives me an error about not being able to retrieve the folder contents.

Is it possible I missed something? Did I launch ftpiiu incorrectly? I opened Haxchi and then launched the ftpiiu .elf file.

Thanks!

EDIT: I just read the post above and my question might've been answered. I'll give it a try again the next time I pull out my Wii U.

Cyan · Mar 30, 2020

be sure to run the "everywhere" version of ftpiiu provided on the guide.
the haxchi version (newer) should work with mocha (older), but not the other way around. still, if you use mocha just use the mocha version to be sure.

yellowsnow4free · Mar 30, 2020

Cyan said:
be sure to run the "everywhere" version of ftpiiu provided on the guide.
the haxchi version (newer) should work with mocha (older), but not the other way around. still, if you use mocha just use the mocha version to be sure.

Thanks Cyan! I wasn't holding B when I booted Haxchi initially. Now that I did that the ftp worked perfectly and I was able to delete the update folder. I confirmed the update (says it's up to date for me, since I'm on 5.5.3) and double-checked that the folder is gone.

Madridi · Mar 30, 2020

Cyan said:
the haxchi version (newer) should work with mocha (older), but not the other way around.

Hi Cyan,

How sure are you of this? I’m pretty confident this isn’t the case? Or are you referring to a newer released version that I don’t know about?

I am pretty certain haxchi version won’t work with mocha, and vice versa.

PS: You are one of my favorite people around here, not to mention a moderator. Enjoy your retirement, but I hope you aren’t going anywhere and will continue to stick around.

Cyan · Mar 31, 2020

I'm basing it on the source's change.
when fix added support for haxchi, he made a condition checker, so it "should" still work with mocha.
I didn't test myself, only looked at the source long ago. I'll go look again.

edit:
https://github.com/FIX94/ftpiiu/releases (look at the changelog's for Dec 13th 2016, by clicking on da206d8)
https://github.com/FIX94/ftpiiu/commit/da206d887cf3c92fe5fcde8e6668e524b7dc301b

he added MCPhook, it's not replacing it but checking first if IOSUhax (mocha) method is working, if not initialized then trying MCPHook (haxchii) instead, if still not working stop trying (no hax available). at the end of the code, it's still closing both by checking which one has been initialized.
Since 2016 I never understood why all guide provided specific version, instead of last updated one. users just mix them and end using older version, which is too bad.

: init :

Code:

    int res = IOSUHAX_Open(NULL);
+    if(res < 0)
+        res = MCPHookOpen();
    if(res < 0)
    {
        log_printf("IOSUHAX_open failed\n");

: close :

Code:

-        IOSUHAX_Close();
+        if(mcp_hook_fd >= 0)
+           MCPHookClose();
+        else
+            IOSUHAX_Close();

so, haxchi's version check first if mocha's hook method is working, if not it tries if haxchi is working.
you don't need different version, only Fix94's latest version for both haxchi and mocha.

But Mocha version (older) won't work with Haxchi version because it's missing that new mod.

Thank you for your kind word.
I was away for few months and had hard time coming back, but I am now. I'm back catching up what I missed and helping again.

Madridi · Apr 1, 2020

@Cyan

Thanks for the explanation and point out exactly where the changes were in the source code.

That being said, I was sure I tested this before and it didn’t work, along with numerous sources saying it wasn’t possible.

Therefore, I just went and tested it again. You are right, Haxchi version works for both!

I will update this guide the next time I’m on this PC to only mention this version then. There is no more point of dividing it like that. Thank you so much for your input.

I am glad to hear that you are back and sticking around. Stay safe

gregmurf · Apr 25, 2020

Hi all, what if i'm on the last update (5.4.4E), and when i try to see if update are blocked (i just apply this method), the WiiU prompt "Console is up to date" ?
I did the job correctly ? OR it means it doesn't work ?
Thanks

Madridi · Apr 25, 2020

gregmurf said:
Hi all, what if i'm on the last update (5.4.4E), and when i try to see if update are blocked (i just apply this method), the WiiU prompt "Console is up to date" ?
I did the job correctly ? OR it means it doesn't work ?
Thanks

Well first, latest update for Europe is 5.5.4E I believe, so I think you that’s what you meant.

second of all, you can’t tell if you succeeded or not since there isn’t a newer version. The only way to check is go through ftpiiu again and check if the update folder is now there or not. If it isn’t, then you did it correctly

jacobsson · May 14, 2020

Renaming the folder seem to not work due to the permissions set I guess. Copying it might be better to let's say "update_bak", then remove update.

Then simply just copy it back to "update" it w/o worrying about having the right permissions set.

It's weird that I didn't see this post earlier, It's nice to be able to remove the DNS now (although you could get banned of course).

godreborn · May 14, 2020

jacobsson said:
instead of deleting the folder, couldn't we just rename it from "update" -> "_update "?
Then simply just remove the underscore to revert it w/o worrying about having the right permissions set.

might work, but I'm not sure. it may not allow you to rename the folder (only delete) due to permissions.

jacobsson · May 14, 2020

godreborn said:
might work, but I'm not sure. it may not allow you to rename the folder (only delete) due to permissions.

I missed that part, you're probably right. I edited my post now.

Copying the "update" to let's say "update_bak" and then delete "update" is probably better so you don't have to worry about permissions when reverting back.

I would imagine un-ticking "write" permission for owner would probably stop the system from writing any updates to this folder too,.

EDIT: Also Pinky, just wanted to say that I love all the stuff and guides you've done for the PS3 community.

Madridi · May 14, 2020

From post 236:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/block-w...hout-dns-blocking.477944/page-12#post-8893657

No need to do any sort of copying. Those permissions are only for the piece of mind. In reality they mean nothing.

jacobsson · May 14, 2020

Madridi said:
From post 236:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/block-w...hout-dns-blocking.477944/page-12#post-8893657

No need to do any sort of copying. Those permissions are only for the piece of mind. In reality they mean nothing.

Gotha!

cheetox · Jul 6, 2020

Hey! I'm new to this and just got done, but I didn't get an error when trying to update again, it simply says my system is up to date. The update folder is most definitely not there when I check with FileZilla but still makes me wonder..

Lacius · Jul 6, 2020

cheetox said:
Hey! I'm new to this and just got done, but I didn't get an error when trying to update again, it simply says my system is up to date. The update folder is most definitely not there when I check with FileZilla but still makes me wonder..

Which system version are you on? If you are on the most recent version, you won't receive an error.

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