When does your personal mental cutoff for "old games" begin? Do you have an end date as well?

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"old consoles like the N64" and "my parents used to play Resident Evil" are but two examples of phrases that have made me think "wow I am old" when doing the rounds of the forums over the years. In my case I had been playing games for a long time before the predecessors of the consoles in question were even industry rumours. This often leads to people maybe knowing about games from "back then" (wherever that may be) but seldom having lived it and lumping/blurring all things before then together in their heads, despite the massive changes that any would be student of the art in question will tell you about. If games are hard to conceptualise this for then maybe think what you think of as old music, or old films, and then consider that you can likely find hours of long form documentaries detailing the importance of maybe 5 years (or just one band) wherein something like jazz and blues formed, or rock and roll, punk, metal (and divisions thereof), hip hop and more besides. Coincidentally 5 years is also about the average length of a console generation. Modern historians of any field will also consider living memory as part of their work, and while they tends to refer the world as a whole there are offshoots.

On the flip side I have met the opposite side of things where people might not have fallen out of gaming, but fallen out of current gaming. Now my misgivings with the current generation of consoles formed the basis of a previous entry in this series but it does also mean that while I was very current with the xbox 360 and DS (often writing up and discussing new releases as they dropped) I am rather less familiar with the order of releases (or indeed no releases worth considering) for the PS4, xbone, 3ds and beyond. Now I contend that is for good reason and that things today are plenty recognisable but don't do it that well, probably by virtue of bad monetisation schemes, but the effects are still the same. I have seen others that fell out during the PS2, but still retain a seemingly encyclopaedic knowledge of 8 and 16 bit consoles, even the more obscure ones. Do you have something similar, or maybe just a gap somewhere?

Assuming you are not old enough to remember the first game (and are also willing to forgo the electromechanical debate) then when do your memories of games start, and when do they start to be fairly crystallised with respect to time (this came after that, this led to that, this paved the way for...)? One also wonders how it might play out as not everybody got gaming magazines or TV shows, or possibly cared about such things, and thus while technical release dates are one thing if you never got it before the next year (or maybe if you are in a PAL region you might only just be getting it).

In my case in addition to the lack of current stuff above then the commodore 64 is probably fairly in order, and while I played many things on a bbc micro, vic20 and whatever else (I was doing retro before it was cool, mainly because it was cheap and things still played well enough) they are all "old games" in my head. The NES I can do reasonably well but it would be the 16 bit era before I can recount releases. PS1 on through the 360 is all very clear. Being very much PAL bound before the N64 (and even then that was but a handful of games with an adapter) it will also be very PAL, or indeed UK, centric. Some of this is likely also changed or informed by my tendency to go for second hand games when they get cheaper, or indeed after consoles have died and we are onto the next.

Or to finish the "wow I am old thing" then if you are 18 today it is quite possible your hand me down console you got at say 5 or 6 (so 2006, the xbox 360 having already been released and seeing the release of the Wii and PS3) was a PS2 and everything before that might be expected to be from the before times. If you were from a richer family, or just starting out, said 18 year old might well have started with a PS3, 360 or Wii.

This is part of a discussion series wherein we contemplate things about games, be it concepts, individual games, the industry at large, mechanics or the gaming culture at large. Previously we discussed games and media franchises you know mostly from offbeat and forgotten sources.

 

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should i be old enough to respond to this?
to be honest idk what i would consider old enough, i remember i would go to those places (i really don't know how to call this in english) where you pay to play for 1 hour or 2 in a console and most of those places only had PS2 because it was more accessible, and while people were playing games like god of war or gta sa, i would mostly there to see if i could find those sega collection things just to play sonic or virtua fighter, and even that when i found atari emulator i really wanted to play asteroids, and i did and people were like "wtf are you playing?" and i was just YE YE DIE FUKKIN ROCC, the thing is, for me nothing is old enough, you just need to have fun with it, when i got atari emulator with a bunch of roms i keep testing all of them, i had fun with some and others were boring, so ye, i think it's about what i enjoy, it doesn't metter if it's old or new
 

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My cutoff begins when they are unavailable for purchase, though the online stores helped mitigate the issue.

Mainly, I consider console games as an aging form. The console reaches the end of it's lifecycle, the games stop being sold in physical form, and online vendor stores stop selling them, moving on to the next system.

Like the XBOX, Wii, etc...
 

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Old games for me would be PS2 and back, new would be PS3 and up... this will change of course in the future. PS3 is almost in the old category right now... I guess for me it's 2 gens back is old.
 
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I just wonder if any of these 'young uns' that said things like 'my parents used to play that' and the likes as mentioned in the op.... Were they wearing a Led Zepplin t shirt or similar at the time?? :rofl2:

Why is old gaming any different to old music or movies? If somethings good... Its good forever imo and those whipper snappers should remember without the old shit.... They wouldn't have they're new shit!!

I still play c64 games for the nostalgia factor alone!
 
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I can go far back as the second generation... atari 2600.. it was a basic but classic start to an eye opening evolution of consoles and games from that point on.

its one big thing i always appreciate being part of and remembering what i used to play from that moment onwards showing real progress along the way and the joy games have given me over the years.. pure nostalgia of talking with friends, swapping games after school and constantly replaying them no matter how many times you completed it!

always respect what was and look forward to what will be.. for that is our continued adventures
 
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i personally have somewhat a weird take on this I imagine the console as if it had aged like a human and once it hits the 21 year mark its retro ofcourse I can still look back on games and stuff that aren't yet 21 years old and think to myself that its old but not retro my reasoning for this age decision is because it seems like when you hit your 20s that's when you start to become nostalgic and think..oh hey I have a job I can rebuy my childhood games and play them its when you begin to want to relive the past in your mind..that a game seems to be retro so for me..roughly 21 years or older so in a year or 2 the xbox ps2 and gamecube will fit that bill
 
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I consider games previous to the NES era to be old. I started playing with the Mega Drive so the 16-bit generation might be where I'm most confortable. I'm not that crazy about the NES and Master System, to be honest, but I do recognize there are some gems. Games from the mid 80's have a specific kind of charm, but I tend to like more how arcade games looked and felt back at that era - stuff from Capcom and Sega can feel pretty great. Playing an Atari 2600 game to me feels too simplistic, perhaps due to my lack of knowledge, and playing an early 1980's game - say, the first Donkey Kong - can feel a bit "off", if still an interesting relic.

I rarely have much interest in new games save for a very specific indie release or a game from a company I like. I tend to have much more interest in a said generation as their games start to age, and because of that, I usually only buy a gaming system once it's on its last legs. I bought a PS2 in 2007, a Wii U in 2017 and a 3DS in 2019. Due to my bigger interest in emulation and older games than cutting-edge technology, I have no intent on buying a new game system anytime soon.
 
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I grew up on the NES and onward, so those gens are fine for me. Before that, they're a little simplistic for me. (Plus, there's a reason the industry crashed before the NES...)
But heck, I'm 30, I can freely admit I'm old. :rofl:
 

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I started on the nes, then transitioned to the snes. I then regressed to the spectrum and the BBC micro.

I was told that I played too many video games by my parents, and they wanted to give me something more educational. Little did they know I could play Popeye on the micro (sorry mum).
 
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I don't know what I'd consider old games. I grew up around the time of the NES, but I never had that. I instead grew up with my dad's Commodore 64, Vic 20, and Magnavox Odyssey 2. So even things from before I was born I don't know if I'd consider "old games" to me. Do they feel old compared to modern games? Yeah, but I still remember details about so many of the games I played back then, so they don't "feel" old.
 

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Anything before the current gen is old fogey territory. If it's not in the now, it's a distant memory. As soon as the new console drops, the old one should be dropped, just like the XBox....whatever was before Series X.
 

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I unfortunately cannot really enjoy most NES games, even though I really want to at times. Starting with the SNES it was just such a quality improvement for the better... that is my basis, and one I go back to often.
 

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For me, it's two gens before the current one.

So during the PS5 generation, PS3 games will be "old". During the PS3 generation, PS1 games were "old".
 
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