Can your IP address be pre-banned on certain websites?

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ISPs assign you with an IP address when you sign up to them. When you terminate contract, they assign your old IP address to somebody else. IPv4 addresses are in limited supply so they can't give you a new one. When you sign up, you get someone else's old IP address. If someone recently got banned on a certain website then you get their IP address, will you have a day 0 ban?
 

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Yes they can. Abusive IP's are commonly banned all over the web. The forum software gbatemp uses can do this. If you purchased a static IP from your web provider ask for a new one or a refund (if it's being banned on a site you need) or use a proxy or VPN to bypass the ban. The Opera web browser includes a free VPN.
 
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"ISPs assign you with an IP address when you sign up to them."
They can, though it is usually a paid extra, if it is available at all. Most ISPs I encounter in the world use dynamic IP addresses and will assign you one from a pool.

Though as was mentioned there are premade lists that various blacklists and protection software uses that cover everything from IPs used to send spam, launch hacks, generally be infected, be assigned to agencies you don't want to deal with (as silly as the thing was then peerblock was this for the torrent set) or be known endpoints for VPNs and tor. You might find yourself lucky enough to be on such a list if you should acquire a new one. I have also seen ranges blocked before -- many email servers will not accept email sent from servers in domestic IP ranges (and the big four barely accept anything from each other these days).
 
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ISPs assign you with an IP address when you sign up to them. When you terminate contract, they assign your old IP address to somebody else. IPv4 addresses are in limited supply so they can't give you a new one. When you sign up, you get someone else's old IP address. If someone recently got banned on a certain website then you get their IP address, will you have a day 0 ban?
Yeah, they can do this if your IP address is on an abusive IP database.
This is (unfortunately) the case of Tor. For example, many forums will block you from posting if they detect that your IP address is that of a Tor exit node. Some sites won't even allow you to access them at all.
Fortunately GBAtemp doesn't block Tor (posting from it right now).
 
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Yeah, they can do this if your IP address is on an abusive IP database.
This is (unfortunately) the case of Tor. For example, many forums will block you from posting if they detect that your IP address is that of a Tor exit node. Some sites won't even allow you to access them at all.
Fortunately GBAtemp doesn't block Tor (posting from it right now).
You can log into GBAtemp using Tor but can't create accounts with it. I assume that known Tor exit nodes are blacklisted from creating accounts on this website. I tried to create the account YourHusband a while back and got a message saying "Thanks for registering. Your registration must now be approved by an administrator. You will receive an email when a decision has been taken." The next day I checked my email and didn't see a response so I made my account using a different email address from an ordinary IP address.
 

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Yeah, they can do this if your IP address is on an abusive IP database.
This is (unfortunately) the case of Tor. For example, many forums will block you from posting if they detect that your IP address is that of a Tor exit node. Some sites won't even allow you to access them at all.
Fortunately GBAtemp doesn't block Tor (posting from it right now).
I don't understand the point of using Tor. Instead of your ISP keeping logs of what you're doing online your exit node will keep logs of you instead. Could you explain why you choose to use it?
 

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I don't understand the point of using Tor. Instead of your ISP keeping logs of what you're doing online your exit node will keep logs of you instead. Could you explain why you choose to use it?

-Tor Browser is configured for maximum privacy out of the box, and requires very minimal configuration (all you should really change is the security slider).
-Tor Browser is bundled with HTTPS Everywhere and NoScript. HTTPS Everywhere upgrades insecure HTTP connections to HTTPS, and NoScript can block unwanted JavaScript/executable content from loading, or to block it entirely. It also prevents security exploits like cross site scripting (XSS) and clickjacking.

Tor exit nodes don't keep logs on your browsing activities due to the way the Tor network works.
With Tor, your traffic is routed through three consecutive nodes. The first node is the one your computer communicates with, and the last one is the one facing the site.
The first node (the entry node) can see your IP address but can't see who you're communicating with. The last node (the exit node) can see where your traffic is directed, but can't see your IP address. In order to de-anonymize a user (assuming he/she isn't using an onion service) you would have to gain control of an entry node and an exit node. It's unlikely your Tor Browser will build a circuit (a series of nodes) that has both a malicious entry and exit node in it.
All traffic between Tor nodes is encrypted, and only the exit node can see your traffic in plaintext.
This isn't a major concern though, since (most) websites use HTTPS. Therefore, unless you're browsing a plain HTTP site, the exit node can't snoop on your data.
 
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ISPs assign you with an IP address when you sign up to them. When you terminate contract, they assign your old IP address to somebody else. IPv4 addresses are in limited supply so they can't give you a new one. When you sign up, you get someone else's old IP address. If someone recently got banned on a certain website then you get their IP address, will you have a day 0 ban?

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You can literally be banned for not contributing anything to the site. It will give you the message of "unwanted user." Imagine going into Walmart or any other store or restaurant and being denied service simply because you didn't feel like browsing the store that day. That's how bad that

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-Tor Browser is configured for maximum privacy out of the box, and requires very minimal configuration (all you should really change is the security slider).
-Tor Browser is bundled with HTTPS Everywhere and NoScript. HTTPS Everywhere upgrades insecure HTTP connections to HTTPS, and NoScript can block unwanted JavaScript/executable content from loading, or to block it entirely. It also prevents security exploits like cross site scripting (XSS) and clickjacking.

Tor exit nodes don't keep logs on your browsing activities due to the way the Tor network works.
With Tor, your traffic is routed through three consecutive nodes. The first node is the one your computer communicates with, and the last one is the one facing the site.
The first node (the entry node) can see your IP address but can't see who you're communicating with. The last node (the exit node) can see where your traffic is directed, but can't see your IP address. In order to de-anonymize a user (assuming he/she isn't using an onion service) you would have to gain control of an entry node and an exit node. It's unlikely your Tor Browser will build a circuit (a series of nodes) that has both a malicious entry and exit node in it.
All traffic between Tor nodes is encrypted, and only the exit node can see your traffic in plaintext.
This isn't a major concern though, since (most) websites use HTTPS. Therefore, unless you're browsing a plain HTTP site, the exit node can't snoop on your data.

Dude, I heard that just using TOR puts you on a blacklist these days!
 

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MUGEN Archive. A shithole warehouse of characters, stages, screenpacks, and everything in between that have been hard to find with MUGEN sites closing left and right. If you thought dead links to this shit 10+ years ago was bad, thanks to Geocities and other sites closing down, all you're left with for getting certain characters is to request it on sites like MUGEN Fighters Guild or MUGEN Free For All. It's made worse if you consider trying to run a pre-MUGEN 1.0 build for whatever reason (unless if it's compatibility with some OP character).

You can literally be banned for not contributing anything to the site. It will give you the message of "unwanted user." Imagine going into Walmart or any other store or restaurant and being denied service simply because you didn't feel like browsing the store that day. That's how bad that

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Dude, I heard that just using TOR puts you on a blacklist these days!
Do you mean that you can't access certain sites while using Tor Browser or that using Tor Browser will get your IP address in some kind of database.
 

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The latter is what I've heard.
If what you mean is an NSA database then sure, my IP address is in a group called "extremist users" in XKeyscore, not only because I've searched "Tor Browser" on Google, but also because I use Linux. The NSA spies on everyone anyway, which is a good reason to use Tor in the first place.
I've used Tor Browser for a while now and I've never been denied access to any sites (outside of Tor) because of it. I don't think that anyone cares.
 
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Of course they can! Have you never seen people get ip banned on forums? Also, they ban ips to stop spammers, and sometimes even DDOS attacks. The VPN I use is banned on a lot of websites, and my mobile ip is even banned on some web sites, when I use phone net.
 

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My opinion is constructed of logical assumptions which I can't verify:

I think that using more mainstream privacy respecting software like Line, Whatsapp and Facebook Messenger's secret chat does not get you on a watchlist. Using less mainstream privacy respecting software like Linux, Tor, Signal and Veracrypt probably does.

Being on a watchlist is pretty insignificant on its own. Unless there is convincing evidence that someone on one of these watchlists will commit a serious crime in the near future then it is not worth spending resources to de-anonomise and actively monitor the given user. In the vast majority of cases, using privacy respecting software will improve your privacy.

I'm using Tor right now and am probably already on a few watchlists.
 

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My opinion is constructed of logical assumptions which I can't verify:

I think that using more mainstream privacy respecting software like Line, Whatsapp and Facebook Messenger's secret chat does not get you on a watchlist. Using less mainstream privacy respecting software like Linux, Tor, Signal and Veracrypt probably does.

Being on a watchlist is pretty insignificant on its own. Unless there is convincing evidence that someone on one of these watchlists will commit a serious crime in the near future then it is not worth spending resources to de-anonomise and actively monitor the given user. In the vast majority of cases, using privacy respecting software will improve your privacy.

I'm using Tor right now and am probably already on a few watchlists.

Don't trust Facebook to respect your privacy. They collaborate with the NSA in PRISM, one of their mass surveillance programs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
 

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I didn't even think about it. I sign up for sites that I'm interested in communicating with. Sometimes you have to wait a long time for confirmation.
 

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