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Windows_10_User · Nov 21, 2019

godreborn said:
that's installing directly to the external hdd, but doing that requires the drive to be in fat32 format. I don't think that's what you meant. sorry to have confused you.

No, sorry, it was my fault since I made a typo that confused you (I noticed it too late) and so I edited the post next. I meant, installing game data from an ISO or folder format game from an external HDD vs. installing game data from an ISO or folder format game from the PS3. Since PKGs on the PS3 install game data faster than the ones on an external HDD, it's the same thing regarding ISO and folder format games.

godreborn said:
ISO has about 99% compatibility. some games have issues if just in jb format. you can tell which files are missing by looking at the ird. if you have any psarc files that have been extracted, there will be a folder in there named after the psarc.

And are there games which have issues in ISO format (I've read Persona 5 does) or if not running from the PS3? Sorry, but how can I see the IRD?

godreborn · Nov 21, 2019

I've never personally come across a game that didn't work.

Windows_10_User · Nov 21, 2019

godreborn said:
I've never personally come across a game that didn't work.

On ISO format? I've been told certain games only run from the PS3's HDD/eMMC/SSD/SSHD but I want to avoid wasting its space as much as possible so I'm using an external HDD and trying to avoid PKG games. Should I use multiMAN, PS3 ISO TOOLS, PS3-ISO-REBUILDER or GenPS3ISO to create the ISOs or it doesn't matter which one I use? If still using PS3 ISO TOOLS, should I keep using the makeps3iso setting or the genps3iso one?

godreborn · Nov 21, 2019

keep the settings the same, yes. ps3 iso rebuilder is what I used to convert jb format games.

Windows_10_User · Nov 21, 2019

godreborn said:
keep the settings the same, yes. ps3 iso rebuilder is what I used to convert jb format games.

So, I can't find a folder with PSARC files but I can in my big games. I guess The Last of Us' and Uncharted 3: Drake's Fortune GOTY's pak23.psarc files are split since I have 3 of those in each game (although these versions don't have the black screen problem, which might be odd since said files are split). Also, my Red Dead Redemption GOTY has two files named rdr2_layer0.rpf. Does that mean they're split too? I also don't have a black screen problem with this game.

godreborn · Nov 21, 2019

split games usually have .6660x extensions from what I remember. there's no need to split game files anymore though. I think people realized something was wrong with the last of us rip, and instead of reripping it, they wanted you to extract the psarc and replace a few files. that's why it was so difficult to find a game with that psarc intact. the xml that you normally get when extracting doesn't seem to exist or was deleted. like a lot of dumps for systems, there's usually only one or two dumps circling the internet. stuff is never redumped unless there's a major problem with the dump, rendering the game unplayable.

Windows_10_User · Nov 21, 2019

godreborn said:
split games usually have .6660x extensions from what I remember. there's no need to split game files anymore though. I think people realized something was wrong with the last of us rip, and instead of reripping it, they wanted you to extract the psarc and replace a few files. that's why it was so difficult to find a game with that psarc intact. the xml that you normally get when extracting doesn't seem to exist or was deleted. like a lot of dumps for systems, there's usually only one or two dumps circling the internet. stuff is never redumped unless there's a major problem with the dump, rendering the game unplayable.

Maybe these spits files are related with not only the black screen problem and/or with the problem where I'm kicked to the XMB when running a game. I have the latter problem with God of War: Ascension.

godreborn · Nov 21, 2019

in my experience, a black screen is usually the result of a sprx or self issue. if it's the EBOOT, it usually throws an error when you click on it. the self/sprx may not be resigned to the correct firmware.

Windows_10_User · Nov 21, 2019

Maybe if I move the game folder in multiMAN from my external HDD to the PS3 it merges the split parts automatically and I stop having this problem where I'm kicked to the XMB. After that I'd move the game folder to the external HDD, convert it to ISO using PS3 ISO TOOLS, move it to the external HDD and then run the game to see if I still had the problem.

godreborn said:
in my experience, a black screen is usually the result of a sprx or self issue. if it's the EBOOT, it usually throws an error when you click on it. the self/sprx may not be resigned to the correct firmware.

Well, it's so confusing since there are many formats (IRD, PSARC, BIN, SELF and SPRX). There are games which come with over a EBOOT.BIN file. Where can I find SPRX and SELF files? So, does it have to be resigned even if I'm on CFW, and if so, to my current FW (4.84)?

godreborn · Nov 21, 2019

you can see what they're signed with with scetool gui. self and sprx files will have the same extension (.self/.sprx).

if you're missing files, then it's often times infinite loading. I know the uncharted games behave that way.

Windows_10_User · Nov 21, 2019

godreborn said:
you can see what they're signed with with scetool gui. self and sprx files will have the same extension (.self/.sprx).

if you're missing files, then it's often times infinite loading. I know the uncharted games behave that way.

Some PS3 games slow down even if for not even a second. Is it because they're faulty or because they're being ran via USB and not from the PS3, which is faster?

godreborn · Nov 21, 2019

that I don't know.

Windows_10_User · Nov 21, 2019

godreborn said:
that I don't know.

What do you think about the problem which kicks me to the XMB after clicking the games' disc icon? Maybe it's caused by some faulty files.

godreborn · Nov 21, 2019

not all games do that?

Windows_10_User · Nov 21, 2019

godreborn said:
not all games do that?

No, only God of War: Ascension. I mount it with multiMAN and some seconds after clicking its disc icon, I'm kicked to the XMB. Maybe it has to do with split files.

godreborn · Nov 21, 2019

this is how the last of us look (the pak23.psarc is intact). I keep backups of everything, so this is an iso I made from 3 different dumps by other people:

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

Windows_10_User said:
No, only God of War: Ascension. I mount it with multiMAN and some seconds after having clicked on its disc icon I'm kicked back to the XMB. Maybe it has to do with split files.

Why do some users recommend removing the game data and updating the PS3 games via the triangle button when having problems with them?

compare it to its ird with ps3 iso rebuilder or check with mana gunz on the system itself.

Windows_10_User · Nov 21, 2019

godreborn said:
this is how the last of us look (the pak23.psarc is intact). I keep backups of everything, so this is an iso I made from 3 different dumps by other people:

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--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

compare it to its ird with ps3 iso rebuilder or check with mana gunz on the system itself.

So, like I said, some of my games' pak23.psarc files are split (unlike that one) even though they have the same name and don't have a 666xx format. I don't get how can they have the same name while being on the same location. How big is your pak23.psarc, by the way?

Maybe I can join them somehow (maybe by using PS3-ISO-REBUILDER, I don't know)? How could the dumps be different, how can you know which one/s don't/doesn't have problems and how can you know how's the game's structure meant to be? Sorry, it's so confusing.

But should I do that with all my games even with the ones I don't have problems with? Do I need to extract the ISOs to do it? I don't have ManaGunZ installed and it can't be installed right now. I can't compare the game with its IRD since currently I don't have access to my PC as well.

godreborn · Nov 21, 2019

you might want to do it with all games. you can't rebuild a psarc without the xml that came with it. it won't know the structure otherwise. .6660x extension was created by Deank. it's for using games on a fat32 drive (before we could use ntfs). the files are merged and transferred to the internal hdd in a cache.

Windows_10_User · Nov 21, 2019

godreborn said:
you might want to do it with all games. you can't rebuild a psarc without the xml that came with it. it won't know the structure otherwise. .6660x extension was created by Deank. it's for using games on a fat32 drive (before we could use ntfs). the files are merged and transferred to the internal hdd in a cache.

So, it's not possible to get that XML file? Also, multiMAN recognizes my external HDD's NTFS partition's games but its file manager doesn't recognize my external HDD's NTFS partition. I thought multiMAN could join the files when copying the games to the PS3 so I wouldn't need PS3-ISO-REBUILDER and the XML file.

godreborn · Nov 21, 2019

the xml file I'm referring to is for if a psarc file has been decompiled. it sounds like you may have another problem.

ps3 iso rebuilder is one way to check the integrity of the files. it works with jb or iso.

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