Team-Xecuter Solution coming soon for latest Switch models

JoeBloggs777 · Nov 2, 2019

Jonhy said:
Has anyone read this thread yet?

Apparently this is the dude that discovered and sold the exploit the TX. As usual gbatemp users called it fake (of course, it's only natural) but if you look at the timeline of the way certain events were dated, it seems to match up almost too well.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/i-find-...-new-switchs-but-i-need-an-idea.550566/page-4

I advise that everyone takes a minute to read through it.

but that doesn't explain the posts made by Hexkyz

JonJaded · Nov 2, 2019

wiewiec said:
I do not thing it is bad to buy exploit by TX, even big corporation like Apple do similar things to get new technologies etc.

Oh, I never meant to imply selling the exploit was bad or anything. I just find it really cool that a dev (especially a small one) is getting paid for his work. (Especially in a country with much lower wages.)

What does suck though is that I doubt that TX will ever make a write up, and will probably do their best to keep the exploit as closed source as possible.

Not only that, TX is obviously going to take credit for "discovering the exploit" and this guy is likely going to be forgotten to history. I hope this is well documented though, or that TX throws him a bone by code naming the exploit by the name he asked for beforehand.

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JoeBloggs777 said:
but that doesn't explain the posts made by Hexkyz

Hex doesn't know shit. He had no previous knowledge and just called it bullshit for the hell of it. As you've probably have seen, the exploit was confirmed to be real by a gbatemp admin. As much as I love hex, he clearly was out of line.

Also, I think we all know better than to take a random screenshot from a private discord and take it as literal. It was never presented as a statement that was meant to be public and was clearly meant for the cohorts that were in that server with him.

TerraPhantm · Nov 2, 2019

Kubas_inko said:
And here it comes. You don't have to care, but stop calling us, people who do care about their practices, haters just because we point them out. Everyone who does not care is just pointing fingers and saying "I don't care blah blah blah!" If you really don't care, you should just skip the comments (maybe acknowledge it, idk, that might be too hard for some).

My point is, what difference does it make? Asides for whiteknighting for SciresM and Nintendo, there's no point to getting up in arms. I don't see all of you harassing people who make NSP installers, rom dumpers etc even though they arguably harm Nintendo far more than a couple keys being leaked.

JoeBloggs777 · Nov 2, 2019

Jonhy said:
Hex doesn't know shit. All he does is decompile. He had no previous knowledge and just called it bullshit for the hell of it. As you've probably have seen, the exploit was confirmed to be real by a gbatemp admin. As much as I love hex, he clearly was out of line.

yes you could be right, his involvement might have just been a coincidence of him trying to prank TX with a fake exploit

TerraPhantm · Nov 2, 2019

JoeBloggs777 said:
but that doesn't explain the posts made by Hexkyz

Hexkyz seems to feel the world revolves around him / his group. So he assumed that this news is related to the news of SciresM dumping the Switch Lite firmware package. The possibility was there of course, but it was by no means a guarantee. And with the admin here vouching for the news, I'm inclined to believe Hexkyz made too big of an assumption.

Skirlez · Nov 2, 2019

Jonhy said:
Has anyone read this thread yet?

Apparently this is the dude that discovered and sold the exploit the TX. As usual gbatemp users called it fake (of course, it's only natural) but if you look at the timeline of the way certain events were dated, it seems to match up almost too well.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/i-find-...-new-switchs-but-i-need-an-idea.550566/page-4

I advise that everyone takes a minute to read through it.

Once again,
I advise that YOU read his post history.
look at this: https://gbatemp.net/threads/before-cfw-how-can-i-take-save-backup.550421/
2 days before the exploit thread. This suggests that he did the guide 2 days before the thread.
This is just one of many examples seriously, take time to read his history. This guy didn't want to get more bullshit in the EoF thread, so he used this as an excuse.

weatMod · Nov 2, 2019

JoeBloggs777 said:
but that doesn't explain the posts made by Hexkyz

it kinda sounds like a 4chan troll
that avatar pic, that flag , and the name K3b4b OS
kebap OS reminds me of bogdonoff FW or whatever it was

Deleted User · Nov 2, 2019

JoeBloggs777 said:
but that doesn't explain the posts made by Hexkyz

Hexkyz - in this situation - has no idea what he's talking about. Although he is a smart man, he is not omniscient and has no way of knowing what TX has internally been up to.

I have to admit I am amazed you guys can keep this conversation going for days like this

How many more pages can you guys fill up?

Burorī · Nov 2, 2019

Game_Over_Tom said:
How many more pages can you guys fill up?

Until this becomes the longest thread on this website

Essasetic · Nov 2, 2019

Game_Over_Tom said:
Hexkyz - in this situation - has no idea what he's talking about. Although he is a smart man, he is not omniscient and has no way of knowing what TX has internally been up to.

I have to admit I am amazed you guys can keep this conversation going for days like this

How many more pages can you guys fill up?

It'll keep going until you can make us eat all of our words out lol.

Skirlez · Nov 2, 2019

Burorī said:
Until this becomes the longest thread on this website

can it really reach 900+ pages?

Essasetic · Nov 2, 2019

Skirlez said:
can it really reach 900+ pages?

If an admin doesn't come to lock this thread. Probably.

JonJaded · Nov 2, 2019

Skirlez said:
Once again,
I advise that YOU read his post history.
look at this: https://gbatemp.net/threads/before-cfw-how-can-i-take-save-backup.550421/
2 days before the exploit thread. This suggests that he did the guide 2 days before the thread.
This is just one of many examples seriously, take time to read his history. This guy didn't want to get more bullshit in the EoF thread, so he used this as an excuse.

Haven't heard anyone from TX denounce him and he's actively participating in this thread. Keeping an open mind till then.

Skirlez · Nov 2, 2019

Jonhy said:
Haven't heard anyone from TX denounce him and he's actively participating in this thread. Keeping an open mind till then.

The thread is on EoF for a reason.

Switch_Maniac · Nov 2, 2019

Oh man. Still going. I love how much attention TX gets haha. People complain that this was front page and here we are at 36 pages lately of mostly BS and nonsense. Love it! Let’s keep it going

Andalitez · Nov 2, 2019

TerraPhantm said:
My point is, what difference does it make? Asides for whiteknighting for SciresM and Nintendo, there's no point to getting up in arms. I don't see all of you harassing people who make NSP installers, rom dumpers etc even though they arguably harm Nintendo far more than a couple keys being leaked.

That's a very good point you bring up there.
As long as it's opensource it gets a free pass no matter the harm it causes Nintendo.Heaven forbid anyone charge money for something that can be free, provided you willing to put all the time and effort into it

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Like watching the Flash on CW ...

Reseller announces something for current switches: "tx are lying, Michael said it doesn't exist for 8.0.0 or higher"

Tx releases something : "tx didn't do this right, this is buggy, that doesn't work, this exploit is crap, why must we pay money for this, atmosphere will save us

Atmosphere adopts the method used by tx ,Hexkyz bashes tx on Twitter for burning day0 exploits and telling us how tx messed up and incomplete the stolen/brickware/whatever software is, proceeds to decrypt it and helps Michael implement whatever it is to Atmos

TheZander · Nov 2, 2019

Meh i retract this comment

peteruk · Nov 2, 2019

Andalitez said:
That's a very good point you bring up there.
As long as it's opensource it gets a free pass no matter the harm it causes Nintendo.Heaven forbid anyone charge money for something that can be free, provided you willing to put all the time and effort into it

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Like watching the Flash on CW ...

Reseller announces something for current switches: "tx are lying, Michael said it doesn't exist for 8.0.0 or higher"

Tx releases something : "tx didn't do this right, this is buggy, that doesn't work, this exploit is crap, why must we pay money for this, atmosphere will save us

Atmosphere adopts the method used by tx ,Hexkyz bashes tx on Twitter for burning day0 exploits and telling us how tx messed up and incomplete the stolen/brickware/whatever software is, proceeds to decrypt it and helps Michael implement whatever it is to Atmos

To be fair this is pretty damn fucking accurate :rofl2:

*no offence to Michael, Hexyz etc...

JonJaded · Nov 2, 2019

Skirlez said:
The thread is on EoF for a reason.

Yeah, but it wasn't there before all of this happened. It got moved around Wednesday of this week, right after the TX announcement.

I'll just wait till when this exploit is released and see if the method is similar to what was described by him.

V-Temp · Nov 2, 2019

Jonhy said:
Yeah, but it wasn't there before all of this happened. It got moved around Wednesday of this week, right after the TX announcement.

I'll just wait till when this exploit is released and see if the method is similar to what was described by him.

You could just read the thread. It starts as an RCM access post, which isn't an exploit, then it becomes a save game exploit, then it becomes a firmware. Then it discusses reporting to and hearing back from Nintendo with their exploit, meaning they already submitted the full exploit to Nintendo. (In and of itself the time table of a disclosure, testing and confirmation, and pricing is usually weeks to months, not days. Particularly for a random person submitting a claim in HackerOne.)

Save game exploit is a software side attack, in this application seemingly creating something in memory that permanently 'bricks' the system into a compromised RCM. But this isn't a product, nor is it unpatchable as it requires a software vector so long as the system isn't already compromised.

So its at odds with the premise of this thread to which it is being attached, as this thread is about a hardware product. But if RCM is exploited through a save game exploit, there's no actual hardware needed to be sold that doesn't already exist. Hardware itself isn't necessary by the claim made, just a "hacked save and some files". It also references the 3DS ZeldaHax, which are again software based (also the analogy doesn't actually make much sense because exploiting zelda requires capabilities not possible on the switch).

Whatever veracity may or may not be in any of these claims, the details themselves are quite incongruous.

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