Gaming Another leak shows a Switch 2 maybe coming in Jan 2021 along with BOTW 2

Teletron1 · Oct 27, 2019

Rahkeesh said:
PS5/NextBox are going to have slow uptake because they will sell for 500-600 and be backwards compatible with current gen. I think that means we have like 2-3 years of cross-gen games, which means the same handful of interested devs can downport their versions to Switch if they want. By the time everyone fully moves over we will be in Switch 2 territory, and that will not be a 500+ console so should have faster uptake.

The Switch's main appeal isn't going away with the next gen either. It's always been behind in power, but it still retains the advantage of taking it where you want. The real threat here is whether XCloud, PSNow or in-home streaming solutions ever take off and make those games similarly playable anywhere. I suspect the main barrier is that people still don't like carrying controllers for their phones, even though that is basically all the Switch itself amounts to.

Not for nothing the Switch is kind of setup to run for efficiency at a $300 rate more demand and you are at 2hrs of gaming and this becomes the Nomad all over again where people just start hating it because of the battery life

yeah I think the streaming will still be clunky until 5g is in full effect probably by the end of 2021 but by time the major parts of the world converts could be 2023, but I guess will get a better feel once Stadia is out because PSnow
failed in this attempt but that probably had more to do with content

ZachyCatGames · Oct 28, 2019

btw neither the current retail firmware (9.0.1), nor the latest dev firmware to my knowledge have anything that would point towards any sort of “pro” Switch, “Switch 2” or whatever people are calling it now.

Edit: I guess there is that MarikoCalcio device, but nothing is known about it at the moment shrugs.

designgears · Oct 28, 2019

MrBlacha said:
who releases a new console after holidays? Just after Christmas. Legit fake.

Switch release date: March 3, 2017

Rahkeesh · Oct 29, 2019

Modern Vintage Gamer had an interesting take on why Switch Pro is unlikely in his latest MVP podcast. Basically it doesn't look like Unreal Engine 5 will be ready for the launch of next-gen systems, so most next gen games are looking to be UE4 with some raytracing bolted on. That makes at least the engine side of porting current games to the Switch relatively easy. If a UE5 came along that demanded higher baseline performance that might spook Nintendo into putting out something that could handle UE5 ports better, but since that isn't happening they can likely ride out a full Switch gen with the current performance.

This take seems to rest on the assumption of "Switch Pro" supporting exclusive or "practically" exclusive titles consisting of next-gen UE5 ports. So if we follow his logic, it doesn't rule out a "Switch Pro" focused more on stuff like taking the current library closer to 4K than on running next-gen ports. Still given how Nintendo basically left an easy 25-30% performance boost on the table with Mariko, it seems like the only practical way they can get a big enough boost worthy of "pro" marketing is a box-only unit that runs on the full Nvidia Shield clocks and aims for 4K upscaling (probably 1440p as a baseline). While I still think this is kind of unlikely, it seems to me the only path towards seeing a "Pro" before a full next-generation handheld arrives.

Teletron1 · Oct 29, 2019

Rahkeesh said:
Modern Vintage Gamer had an interesting take on why Switch Pro is unlikely in his latest MVP podcast. Basically it doesn't look like Unreal Engine 5 will be ready for the launch of next-gen systems, so most next gen games are looking to be UE4 with some raytracing bolted on. That makes at least the engine side of porting current games to the Switch relatively easy. If a UE5 came along that demanded higher baseline performance that might spook Nintendo into putting out something that could handle UE5 ports better, but since that isn't happening they can likely ride out a full Switch gen with the current performance.

This take seems to rest on the assumption of "Switch Pro" supporting exclusive or "practically" exclusive titles consisting of next-gen UE5 ports. So if we follow his logic, it doesn't rule out a "Switch Pro" focused more on stuff like taking the current library closer to 4K than on running next-gen ports. Still given how Nintendo basically left an easy 25-30% performance boost on the table with Mariko, it seems like the only practical way they can get a big enough boost worthy of "pro" marketing is a box-only unit that runs on the full Nvidia Shield clocks and aims for 4K upscaling (probably 1440p as a baseline). While I still think this is kind of unlikely, it seems to me the only path towards seeing a "Pro" before a full next-generation handheld arrives.

well the way I see it in the battle of the console wars Nintendo has gained ground again and Switch is approaching 40mil units sold, that number in a 2yr span is enough to grab a lot of attention and in some way push Xbox down allowing Nintendo to compete head to head with Sony ,now to keep gaining market shares it would be wise to make and attempt to lure bigger devolpers away from those 2 or at least be inculded in the converastion by releasing a Pro/home console that is able to handle games up to 4k which in the real world most casual gamers still dont own a 4K tv let alone the market still doesnt even have and affordable 8k option to worry about next gen hardware so by doing this it will allow Nintendo to really make and attempt to repacture the console throne

to take advantage of next gen hardware you need a 8k tv + a 600 system plus games = big investment
because of this I think it may be a slow start for next gen hardware, this effect may allow for more growth for Nintendo in secondary system market, it will be and agresive attack looking at both hardcore gamers with 4k specs or casual gamers with 3 system choices and the abilty to take games on the go

Rahkeesh · Oct 29, 2019

Yeah I guess another thing is that Nintendo can easily have a "4K" system that is vastly cheaper than the next gen ones. Even though it would be inferior to the PS4Pro/Scorpio which would probably be cheaper at that time, but hey its new and got the 4K buzzword, what more does it need.

Teletron1 · Oct 29, 2019

Rahkeesh said:
Yeah I guess another thing is that Nintendo can easily have a "4K" system that is vastly cheaper than the next gen ones. Even though it won't really be comparable in quality but hey its got the 4K buzzword, what more does it need.

Right I mean 4k 60fps is really all most casual gamers would be happy with, the human eye can only see so much add in the fact you can take your games on the go and that would satisfy the casual gamer for a long time

Rahkeesh · Oct 30, 2019

Saw this posted over in an SX drama thread:

ZachyCatGames said:
They’re developing some kind of new Switch hardware, for sure. It’s called “Calcio” in the OS and we know absolutely nothing about it besides the fact that it uses Mariko.

First I heard of this.

Being Mariko makes this somewhat limited. It could be something completely different. But if it were a "pro" model, it again seems like it has to point to a box, as that's the only way you're going to get significantly better clocks from the same old SoC.

MYFW · Oct 30, 2019

Meh...

ZachyCatGames · Oct 30, 2019

Rahkeesh said:
Saw this posted over in an SX drama thread:

First I heard of this.

Being Mariko makes this somewhat limited. It could be something completely different. But if it were a "pro" model, it again seems like it has to point to a box, as that's the only way you're going to get significantly better clocks from the same old SoC.

“Code was added implementing (partial, unfinished) support for a new hardware form-factor. Hardware type for this is 4 ("Calcio"), uses Mariko SoC.” from https://switchbrew.org/wiki/9.0.0.
fwiw they could run Mariko at docked clockspeeds in handheld while still having similar or better battery life than the old Switches, which would be a decent upgrade. Will they do this? Only time will tell.

linuxares · Oct 30, 2019

"Yes our console is now 4 years old. Lets kill it!"
Sounds way to farfetched with a January release date even. Right after the big christmas rush? An March/April sounds more plausible if so. The Switch sells to well for them to already kill it off.

Teletron1 · Oct 30, 2019

Rahkeesh said:
Saw this posted over in an SX drama thread:

First I heard of this.

Being Mariko makes this somewhat limited. It could be something completely different. But if it were a "pro" model, it again seems like it has to point to a box, as that's the only way you're going to get significantly better clocks from the same old SoC.

Specs going around

Dimensions: 121mm x 202mm x 50.6mm
Weight: 398g
Connectors: 2 USB Type A ports (3.0), 2 USB Type-C ports, 2 HDMI ports, power supply socket
CPU/GPU: NVIDIA Tegra Xavier processor (custom)
System Memory: 64 GB solid-state drive
Connectivity: Wireless LAN, Bluetooth 5.1
Video Output: Standard 1920 x 1080 resolution, FullHD [60 fps], maximum Ultra HD and 4K resolution
Audio output: Linear PCM 5.1 stereo support, and 7.1 surround
Speakers: Stereo
USB Ports: Type A (3.0), and Type-C
Audio Socket: Stereo output
Game Card Slot: Only for Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch 2 game cards
Power Supply: AC 100 - 240 V, 50/60 HZ

TV only

Marketing Switch play the way you want Switch the way you want :rofl2:

TheSpearGuy · Oct 30, 2019

yes i can confirm that the new super switch ultra 64 boy advance will launch on holiday for incredible 1299.99
The system will launch with:
Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 (the DLC will be available at launch for sure)
Super Mario Odyssey 8 (this is Odyssey 7 for the western localization)
A new IP called Mario Kart (a spiritual successor to the NES Bootleg game "Mario Kart")
Splatoon -2.5% (new playable character; Plastic bottle)

to please your online experience,the new super switch ultra 64 boy advance will not be able to connect to the internet
no batteries included

The Real Jdbye · Oct 30, 2019

I find a Switch 2 highly unlikely to come out that soon. Maybe a Switch Pro (running the same games only at a higher resolution/framerate)
Sort of makes sense now with the Switch Lite being handheld only and 720p, to provide the opposite scenario, with a more powerful home console only version, for those that want both the ultimate portability, and best home experience. And to sell more NSO subscriptions so that people can use cloud saves to sync data between the two... That might be one of the biggest reasons.

Moon164 · Oct 30, 2019

Teletron1 said:
Specs going around

Dimensions: 121mm x 202mm x 50.6mm

Weight: 398g

Connectors: 2 USB Type A ports (3.0), 2 USB Type-C ports, 2 HDMI ports, power supply socket

CPU/GPU: NVIDIA Tegra Xavier processor (custom)

System Memory: 64 GB solid-state drive

Connectivity: Wireless LAN, Bluetooth 5.1

Video Output: Standard 1920 x 1080 resolution, FullHD [60 fps], maximum Ultra HD and 4K resolution

Audio output: Linear PCM 5.1 stereo support, and 7.1 surround

Speakers: Stereo

USB Ports: Type A (3.0), and Type-C

Audio Socket: Stereo output

Game Card Slot: Only for Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch 2 game cards

Power Supply: AC 100 - 240 V, 50/60 HZ

TV only

Marketing Switch play the way you want Switch the way you want

It's more like a Switch Pro + PSVita TV for me, not a sucessor.

Rahkeesh · Oct 30, 2019

Interesting but those specs have nothing to do with Calcio, a Mariko variant. In fact simply being Xavier is probably enough to out it as fake.

SuperHans111 · Oct 30, 2019

Teletron1 said:
A former Big N employe states Switch 2 - ? coming along with BOTW 2 in Jan of 2021 and will be a home console and feature 4k 60fps, makes you wonder what their plans will be.
Will it allow the game carts to work across both systems will it download 4k texture packs to the home system? What will it mean for the portable Switch going forward?

Makes me think it will be the WiiU 2 with the Switch acting like the gamepad but this time you can actually walk away and continue to play your games on the go

Also details about BOTW2 Spoilers

take this with a small grain of salt .. I only care about the possible effects it could have on the ecosystem

sources: dude trust me

ThereAreFourNaan · Oct 31, 2019

This all screams fake to me. The first one is vague as hell and the second thing with the specs is really specific about things they wouldn't know yet and really vague about things they would. Exact console dimensions and weight 18 months from launch? "Custom Xavier" with no details?

UltimateFight · Oct 31, 2019

4k 60fps???I dont believe

Teletron1 · Oct 31, 2019

yeah those dimensions translate to a Switch body not really a home console unless they were planning to cram everything into that tiny body

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UltimateFight said:
4k 60fps???I dont believe

considering sony and microsoft are going for 4k 120fps & 8k 60fps I wouldn't think that's not too farfetched but knowing Nintendo they may just do 4k upscaling, got to attract those AAA developers and steal those sales from last generation consoles ps4/xb1

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