Homebrew RELEASE GoldBricks NSP/NSZ Title Installer

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Never said I was going to use it. That's not the point. The devs here are doing this for free. We should respect what the devs wishes are. This is clearly being done to piss off people. This isn't in the spirit of helping or homebrew or the site. How many devs have left the site due to things like this? How many dead projects do we have because of things like this? This is petty and wrong and not what this community is about.

If dev doesnt like it, dont make it open source with a license that allows anyone to make changes. Xor said he was never going to add nsz, which will become the standard, so now someone forked it to have nsz support. Whether it was blawar or someone else that did, doesnt matter. Now goldleaf users can use the new format
 

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Blawar always tends to incite something, but if Goldleaf is indeed opensource, then it's pretty much in his rights to make a fork, yeah? That's the nature of things. It's a shame to always see a thread hopping with bickering and more divisive switch scene stuff.
 
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If dev doesnt like it, dont make it open source with a license that allows anyone to make changes. Xor said he was never going to add nsz, which will become the standard, so now someone forked it to have nsz support. Whether it was blawar or someone else that did, doesnt matter. Now goldleaf users can use the new format
You are missing the point. The reason that we have this fork of gold leaf is out of pettiness and nothing else. It's literally called GoldBricks as an insult. I never said forks are wrong. But doing this to insult people is not right or appropriate. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Forking open source projects to insult the original dev is not ok.
 
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i dont have anything against blawar....but why tf do we need a fork of ams to use tinfoil/HBG Shop....why this shitty drm......and do i need that mercury hb loader or can i remove it from hbg (i want to use ams updater homebrew but this ams fork of hbgshop wont let me update or else after update it says installation enviroment is corrupted) wtf....

You are going off topic here, however I will give you an example I ran into with goldleaf that would be helped by my fork:

One of the big things my fork does is restore the memory nerf atmosphere gave it. The reason for this is because of apps, like goldleaf, that use the HOS software keyboard, and other applets such as user selector. Even though reserving the memory does near absolutely nothing for the user (it does not prevent crashes). In goldleaf's case, I needed a little extra memory for NSZ that was not available due to all of the aggressive memory reserving. I needed the memory during title installation when invoking the keyboard or user selection applet is not possible, therefore it is absolutely assasine for atmosphere and goldleaf to reserve the memory there. So you can see how this design decision by atmosphere and goldleaf is not intelligent design and hamstrings applications for no benefit. Having said all of that, if I could make the safe assumption that the user is using my fork, I could have made NSZ goldleaf work in applet mode. The fork ensures a standard working environment where I can push limits knowing where the boundaries are. It is possible to optimize GoldBricks more to get it back into applet territory, however with the option of forcing the fork off of the table, I do not have much motivation to do so.
 
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i dont have anything against blawar....but why tf do we need a fork of ams to use tinfoil/HBG Shop....why this shitty drm......and do i need that mercury hb loader or can i remove it from hbg (i want to use ams updater homebrew but this ams fork of hbgshop wont let me update or else after update it says installation enviroment is corrupted) wtf....

Some developers forget the esence of the scene, they want see their name on all places and take the most control possible, instead be one colaborating and working together for do the best to all users...

Honestly, I expect more than this, the Wii scene are 1000 times better than Switch, so sad, because the Switch have a lot possibilities...

I try to put my effort on this, trying to help XorTroll with his homebrew projects, but never have response from him to build the apps, then I decide wait and observe to help another dev because I don't have time to develop my own applications but I can be usefull helping others, but I don't like the way that are taking:

  • The people are forking and taking work from atmosphere for their custom firmwares, why? I didn't gona undestand this never, we don't need a lot of CFW, we can have only atmosphere and work together to improve it, the only developer that stop his CFW when atmosphere get relased are Rajosto's, this only obligate to developers to give multiple compatibility for a CFW that at the end are the same.
  • A lot of homebrews for same thing, why? Didn't know too, at the end all do the same, but seems that people prefer show only his name on credits than collaborate together on same project of same thing, this isn't really opensource projects.
  • DRM's, ofuscated and private code, I undestand that people try to stop SX OS, they are picking code and making profit with it, but it's innecesary and honestly, we all know that scene projects get abandoned some day, this shit only complicate the oportunity to continue these projects by other developers and mantain the Switch scene alive.
 
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You are missing the point. The reason that we have this fork of gold leaf is out of pettiness and nothing else. It's literally called GoldBricks as an insult. I never said forks are wrong. But doing this to insult people is not right or appropriate. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Forking open source projects to insult the original dev is not ok.

I suppose people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones either. Both devs are dicks to each other. But in the end, the user prevails with goldleaf with nsz support
 

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You are missing the point. The reason that we have this fork of gold leaf is out of pettiness and nothing else. It's literally called GoldBricks as an insult. I never said forks are wrong. But doing this to insult people is not right or appropriate. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Forking open source projects to insult the original dev is not ok.

No, the reason we have a fork is because XorTroll refused to add NSZ support to Goldleaf, and there is community demand for it. I can assure you that I have better things to do than spend my Thursday evenings forking and improving a competitor's software project. I can understand why you would feel that way because I meme a lot, but it is simply not true.

All memes aside, the simple fact is that I am pushing for NSZ adoption. That is my primary goal here, and I think most people can recognize that. You are correct that the meme stuff was too much, and I removed it to not distract from the primary purpose: supporting NSZ in all installers.

edit: I would like to find a neutral developer who is willing to maintain this fork and pull in new changes from upstream. If anyone is interested in this task, please PM me. If no one steps up to do so, I will continue to maintain the fork personally.
 
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No, the reason we have a fork is because XorTroll refused to add NSZ support to Goldleaf, and there is community demand for it. I can assure you that I have better things to do than spend my Thursday evenings forking and improving a competitor's software project. I can understand why you would feel that way because I meme a lot, but it is simply not true.

All memes aside, the simple fact is that I am pushing for NSZ adoption. That is my primary goal here, and I think most people can recognize that. You are correct that the meme stuff was too much, and I removed it to not distract from the primary purpose: supporting NSZ in all installers.

Dude, it looks like you think that the scene is yours: your primary purpose is to impose your format in every title installer... but all of them aren't yours. Nevertheless, you have to mess up the FREAKING ENTIRE SCENE just to fulfil that.

But what if the other devs don't like idea? Eh, fuck that, will make a fork of ALL DAMN INSTALLERS (even dead ones like original Tinfoil) just to do it. Scene isn't yours, mate. No, you can't handle a "no", you always will have to do whatever you want, no matter if its adding a feature in another dev's project. Not to mention your manners.
 
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Dude, it looks like you think that the scene is yours: your primary purpose is to impose your format in every title installer... but all of them aren't yours. Nevertheless, you have to mess up the FREAKING ENTIRE SCENE just to fulfil that.

But what if the other devs don't like idea? Eh, fuck that, will make a fork of ALL DAMN INSTALLERS (even dead ones like original Tinfoil) just to do it. Scene isn't yours, mate. No, you can't handle a "no", you always will have to do whatever you want, no matter if its adding a feature in another dev's project. Not to mention your manners.

People asked you to add nsz and you said no. Someone forked it and added nsz support. Maybe go and add some more discord rules and cool off :rofl2:
 
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No, the reason we have a fork is because XorTroll refused to add NSZ support to Goldleaf, and there is community demand for it. I can assure you that I have better things to do than spend my Thursday evenings forking and improving a competitor's software project. I can understand why you would feel that way because I meme a lot, but it is simply not true.

All memes aside, the simple fact is that I am pushing for NSZ adoption. That is my primary goal here, and I think most people can recognize that. You are correct that the meme stuff was too much, and I removed it to not distract from the primary purpose: supporting NSZ in all installers.

edit: I would like to find a neutral developer who is willing to maintain this fork and pull in new changes from upstream. If anyone is interested in this task, please PM me. If no one steps up to do so, I will continue to maintain the fork personally.

wouldn't that be when you plug tinfoil instead of gold leaf since you added support for the format into your own installer already?

EDIT: The name is still GoldBricks. I can't think of any legit reason for the name beside it being an insult. I would be happy to hear the reason behind the name if possible? Given what goldbrick means.
 
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Dude, it looks like you think that the scene is yours: your primary purpose is to impose your format in every title installer... but all of them aren't yours. Nevertheless, you have to mess up the FREAKING ENTIRE SCENE just to fulfil that.

But what if the other devs don't like idea? Eh, fuck that, will make a fork of ALL DAMN INSTALLERS (even dead ones like original Tinfoil) just to do it. Scene isn't yours, mate. No, you can't handle a "no", you always will have to do whatever you want, no matter if its adding a feature in another dev's project. Not to mention your manners.

Your argument is invalid, you are ignoring the fact that even Goldleaf was based off OG Tinfoil:

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Switch scene in a nutshell...


Blawar always tends to incite something, but if Goldleaf is indeed opensource, then it's pretty much in his rights to make a fork, yeah? That's the nature of things. It's a shame to always see a thread hopping with bickering and more divisive switch scene stuff.


I think it's the intent behind the fork itself. True it is open source and anyone can fork it. But calling it "GoldBricks" aka Worthless NSP/NSZ installer is not the right thing to do.
 

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