Google to open its first Stadia video game studio in Montréal

kevin corms · Oct 24, 2019

well hopefully if they make a good game it gets released outside stadia.

FAST6191 · Oct 24, 2019

Bladexdsl said:
cloud gaming IS NOT the fucking future. when are these idiot companies going to realize this?! how many cloud gaming platforms/consoles have failed miserably before this...four?! guess who is next

If they stick things in exchange or possibly cabinet level (various companies already do this to avoid backbone fees and latency issues for other things) and get the hardware to do it as disposable as the likes of a raspberry pi (not a major ask really, though not sure how easy it would be to do today) then I could see it being a viable technical proposition and thus a viable business model of some form.

the_randomizer · Oct 24, 2019

leon315 said:
Same as $ony's psn+, m$ gold, you won'thhave access those game when subscription expires.

And I don't pay for those

DarkCoffe64 · Oct 24, 2019

DANTENDO said:
You may hate it but youl learn to accept it as noone would quit gaming over it-and if companies save money by going digital then they hav the right to do tht - enjoy the gaming experience you don't need a box to look at to remind you tht you had fun with tht game

Well, don't get pissy then when you can't play a single player game 'cus you aren't connected online for any reason or one day you can't play your fave game anymore 'cus google decided to remove it for reasons :v

kevin corms · Oct 24, 2019

DANTENDO said:
You may hate it but youl learn to accept it as noone would quit gaming over it-and if companies save money by going digital then they hav the right to do tht - enjoy the gaming experience you don't need a box to look at to remind you tht you had fun with tht game

Everything is digital, doesnt matter if its pressed to a disk or you download it. The physical disk only exists because there was no way to transfer data without it until the internet became widespread. Streaming is completely different though, and takes things to an entire new level. I think many people associate awful DRM with games you have to download, but the drm doesn have to be like it usually is and its super easy to make backups of any downloaded game.

TehCupcakes · Oct 24, 2019

We've got a bunch of pessimists in here.

Personally, I hope it does well. Cloud gaming has the potential to create some genuinely unique experiences. Remember when they announced Stadia and they talked about using the power of the cloud to produce graphics that a single consumer PC could never do? I'm hoping that a Stadia-focused gaming studio has the ambition to do something like that. This is the real driver of innovation, folks.

Maybe you prefer your games offline where you can own them and run them indefinitely, and that's fine. That's going to remain an option for the foreseeable future, with or without Stadia's success. The way I see it, there's no harm in experimenting a little bit with what cloud computing brings to the table. Not giving Stadia a chance is like refusing to play MMOs because they too require online and will one day shut down. Their ephemeral nature is an acceptable trade-off when the experience is unique and fun.

kevin corms · Oct 24, 2019

TehCupcakes said:
We've got a bunch of pessimists in here.

Personally, I hope it does well. Cloud gaming has the potential to create some genuinely unique experiences. Remember when they announced Stadia and they talked about using the power of cloud computing to produce graphics that a single consumer PC could never do? I'm hoping that a Stadia-focused gaming studio has the ambition to do something like that. This is the real driver of innovation, folks.

Maybe you prefer your games offline where you can own them and run them indefinitely, and that's fine. That's going to remain an option for the foreseeable future, with or without Stadia's success. The way I see it, there's no harm in experimenting a little bit with what online-connectivity brings to the table. Not giving Stadia a chance is like refusing to play MMOs because they too require online and will one day shut down. Their ephemeral nature is an acceptable trade-off when the experience is unique and fun.

When you look at what it actually means and you develop applications yourself... its impossible to get excited and it feels like a dumb idea. Something like gamepass makes sense, something like stadia is just stupid. Its making less and less sense to not just run the game locally for any reason other than publishers would like complete control. Ive also witnessed just how awful an experience stadia is, why would I go for that when a ps4 is $200?

sarkwalvein · Oct 24, 2019

T-Rex Run HD! Stadia exclusive announced.

kevin corms · Oct 24, 2019

sarkwalvein said:
T-Rex Run HD! Stadia exclusive announced.

Wouldnt even want to play something like that on stadia lol, input lag is terrible.

RivenMain · Oct 24, 2019

Some people hate it, but I'm partly welcoming of the idea. Here in America it will probably fail because internet speeds are aweful, but it may help pressure them to evolve. The amount of data usage streaming a 70gb game is going to be rough if your doing it all day for weeks. For other parts of the world that don't have the issue it can be a blessing. I'd rather stay away from google taking control of all parts of my online life. I have a gaming graphics card. I can download games with xbox beta and never need to stream. I think it has value, but most people dont want 100+ms gaming if its a real time based game. Slower rpg games Like FF10 may seem better. They'd be much better to host older gamed files less than 10gb to stream. sucky thing is you have to pay for all the games you want to play. And you can only access them by using their streaming app. So you don't even own the games you pay for. It's really hard to compare it to xbox beta where although you may not "own the game" As long as its downloaded you can play even if your subscriptions expired. Online multiplayer too!

NightScript · Oct 25, 2019

If only I stayed there instead of moving to california...

Vorde · Oct 25, 2019

the_randomizer said:
Get rid of data caps for ISPs, and then I'd consider it.

Is this still a problem in the US? In Canada most ISPs are unlimited usage or give some kind of unlimited data package for +$30 etc

YamiZee · Oct 25, 2019

The biggest issue with Stadia is what happens to the games you purchased when Stadia goes offline one day in the future, or you get banned. And even when you choose to stop paying, losing all the games you bought is a pretty big deal. They really need to provide downloadable copies of the games as well. Even better if they allow bought steam games to be brought over, maybe with a 10% fee per game if necessary.

DKB · Oct 25, 2019

Vorde said:
Is this still a problem in the US? In Canada most ISPs are unlimited usage or give some kind of unlimited data package for +$30 etc

*No. I never really had data caps. I've downloaded 500GB+ Torrents before and my ISP never sent anything. But, yeah, *with a lot of ISP's over here, they still bitch. With the amount I download, most ISP's would have a heart attack. My upload speed is horrible though.

DarthDub · Oct 25, 2019

The only positive thing I can see out of this is having consumers pressure ISPs to raise their data caps.

Pipistrele · Oct 25, 2019

And last one

The Real Jdbye · Oct 25, 2019

pedro702 said:
its not the same at all, in netflix when a new series or movie comes along you can see it as long as your subscribed to netflix, on stadia you pay for the service and then you pay for the games as well, the stadia subscription so far only gives you free destiny 2 , everything else you need to buy and keep paying the subscription also, so double pay, nothing like netflix at all lol.

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no you always need to pay subscription and then the game, google wont let you stream without both, i guess in the long run they will decrease the games individual price or even made them free like destiny 2, but right now you pay to stream and pay for every single game.

I am 99% sure they said you could choose to buy games for keeps and play them without a sub. Maybe that was only for certain titles? But I'm sure that's what they said.

YamiZee said:
The biggest issue with Stadia is what happens to the games you purchased when Stadia goes offline one day in the future, or you get banned. And even when you choose to stop paying, losing all the games you bought is a pretty big deal. They really need to provide downloadable copies of the games as well. Even better if they allow bought steam games to be brought over, maybe with a 10% fee per game if necessary.

Honestly they should just do what Geforce Now does and allow you to play games you already own on other platforms. Best of both worlds, you can subscribe to Stadia for a while and then when you decide to upgrade your PC to run the games you want to play you can continue playing your games locally.
The Geforce Now beta works great for me, no noticeable input lag. Works better than running a game locally on my desktop even, a couple of the games I play are nearly unplayable on that. I would happily pay for it if it was only $10 a month but the hourly pricing structure is just way too expensive. I have been happily using the free beta a lot though. So when I heard Stadia was gonna be cheaper I was hoping they would also allow you to play games you already own.

the_randomizer · Oct 25, 2019

Vorde said:
Is this still a problem in the US? In Canada most ISPs are unlimited usage or give some kind of unlimited data package for +$30 etc

Yeah, I could get it, but I sure as hell won't be paying an extra $40 to get unlimited bandwidth. No thanks, and with a 1 TB cap, 4K 60 fps will eat up a lot in a very short time, like, less than a month. Streaming only gaming is a mistake.

The Real Jdbye said:
I am 99% sure they said you could choose to buy games for keeps and play them without a sub. Maybe that was only for certain titles? But I'm sure that's what they said.

That'll work well if/when companies servers go down.

hoodlum47 · Oct 25, 2019

Holy cow. I didn't realize physical copies of games were such a big deal for so many people still. Personally, I don't remember buying a physical copy of a game since 2010.

Also, like every news post on here about Google Stadia, there's a flood of negativity around it along with wishes of it failing. The fact of the matter is, whether or not Stadia succeeds, this is the future of gaming.

I would say within 10 years at the least in 15 years at the most there will no longer be such a thing as a gaming console, you will be able to play any game on any device anywhere, and I think that's Stadia's end goal.

Wishing for an innovation like this to fail is counterproductive and pointless. This change is inevitable. It probably won't happen as soon as Google would like, but it will happen.

GBADWB · Oct 25, 2019

hoodlum47 said:
Holy cow. I didn't realize physical copies of games were such a big deal for so many people still. Personally, I don't remember buying a physical copy of a game since 2010.

Also, like every news post on here about Google Stadia, there's a flood of negativity around it along with wishes of it failing. The fact of the matter is, whether or not Stadia succeeds, this is the future of gaming.

I would say within 10 years at the least in 15 years at the most there will no longer be such a thing as a gaming console, you will be able to play any game on any device anywhere, and I think that's Stadia's end goal.

Wishing for an innovation like this to fail is counterproductive and pointless. This change is inevitable. It probably won't happen as soon as Google would like, but it will happen.

I do think that it can make strides, but as long as internet data caps exist, it cannot become the future of gaming period. A high quality game stream would eat through many peoples 1TB/mo data cap extremely quickly, which is the wall it needs to hurdle. The purpose of the game stream is to make people not have to pay for the hardware as well as its portability if you have a stable connection. But if people are paying extra $ to increase their data cap, it defeats the purpose of saving money from not buying the hardware. (as having your own computer to be able to stream is already an existing product for Nvidia users, and fairly recently, AMD users as well)

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