Hacking SWITCH NOOB PARADISE - Ask questions here

Lacius · Sep 22, 2019

Shadowlurker said:
I'm going to hack my switch in a few days when my jig arrives, but before then I have some questions, I was planning on using Kosmos as I heard that it's basically just "better" atmosphere however one of the homebrew apps I was planning on running HBG (and by extension tinfoil) but recently I've been hearing some concerning things about said homebrew on reddit and here about how it reacts certain CFWs including Kosmos, potentially malicious things. Would I be better of with default Atmosphere? Or perhaps skipping those two homebrews and doing things a different way? Or am I being overly paranoid? lol

Kosmos uses Atmosphere, so they're basically the same thing. The only benefit of Kosmos is it comes pre-packaged with a lot of the stuff you're probably going to download anyway. I personally recommend using fusee-primary with vanilla Atmosphere, but it largely doesn't matter.

You should use this version of Tinfoil, which is patched to remove the malware that has been bundled with it: https://github.com/coniventia/tinfoilmod-releases/releases

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akasmiler said:
guys ive not bought a switch yet, but i wondered is there a way to tell what firmware is on the switch before opening. I see the easy way to see which ones are patcvhed and unpatched, but just wondering about the firmware?

You need to check the serial number to figure out if it's patched or unpatched. A serial number can give an indication as to which system version might be installed, but there is no way to know for sure without opening it.

Buying an unpatched Switch is recommended.

akasmiler · Sep 22, 2019

Lacius said:
You need to check the serial number to figure out if it's patched or unpatched. A serial number can give an indication as to which system version might be installed, but there is no way to know for sure without opening it.

Buying an unpatched Switch is recommended.

its finding an unpatched one thats the difficult thing imho. which is why i thought maybe looking for a low firmware switch might be an easier task

Lacius · Sep 22, 2019

akasmiler said:
its finding an unpatched one thats the difficult thing imho. which is why i thought maybe looking for a low firmware switch might be an easier task

I highly recommend getting an unpatched one if you can.

giovany86 · Sep 22, 2019

Hello there, i have a quick question (again) about emunand.
What's the simplest way to make a backup of the emunand (RAW Partition of the µSD Card) ?
I backed up the entire 128GB of my SD to be sure but that's taking a lot of space on my hdd x)

Christian Rosado · Sep 22, 2019

Any thread I can follow with game patches info? Since emu nand is always offline I dont know when theres a game patch.. any workaround for this? thanks

Lacius · Sep 22, 2019

giovany86 said:
Hello there, i have a quick question (again) about emunand.
What's the simplest way to make a backup of the emunand (RAW Partition of the µSD Card) ?
I backed up the entire 128GB of my SD to be sure but that's taking a lot of space on my hdd x)

You need to make a backup of the entire 32GB emuNAND partition.

Christian Rosado said:
Any thread I can follow with game patches info? Since emu nand is always offline I dont know when theres a game patch.. any workaround for this? thanks

I recommend using something like HBG (using this version of Tinfoil instead that doesn't include malware) to scan your system for game updates when connected to the internet. You should use 90DNS and/or Incognito to block connections to Nintendo's servers so you don't get banned.

Zaxxx · Sep 22, 2019

Hi guys, I'm trying to restore backup, I'm having 6.2 atmosphere but the backup is on 4.1 I think, do I need to match this software, downgrade with ChoiDujourNX to 4.1 and after that restore and backup with stock firmware?

giovany86 · Sep 22, 2019

Lacius said:
You need to make a backup of the entire 32GB emuNAND partition.

What's the simplest way to do that ? (With Win32DiskImager it's making a full size backup of the entire sd even when i select the assigned letter of the partition :/

Christian Rosado · Sep 22, 2019

Lacius said:
You need to make a backup of the entire 32GB emuNAND partition.

I recommend using something like HBG (using this version of Tinfoil instead that doesn't include malware) to scan your system for game updates when connected to the internet. You should use 90DNS and/or Incognito to block connections to Nintendo's servers so you don't get banned.

alright, thank you. Finally how do I install updates? Just like a normal NSP? It will get associated with the game?

Lacius · Sep 22, 2019

Christian Rosado said:
alright, thank you. Finally how do I install updates? Just like a normal NSP? It will get associated with the game?

That is correct. You can also install updates through HBG if you want. I do that with the smaller updates from time to time.

Christian Rosado · Sep 22, 2019

Lacius said:
That is correct. You can also install updates through HBG if you want. I do that with the smaller updates from time to time.

Yeah HBG sounds much more convenient, just worried Ill get banned even with 90 DNS lol

Lacius · Sep 22, 2019

Christian Rosado said:
Yeah HBG sounds much more convenient, just worried Ill get banned even with 90 DNS lol

I recommend installing Incognito to your emuNAND.

giovany86 · Sep 22, 2019

Any software (free) recommandation to backup the raw partition (EmuNAND) on windows 10 ?

Shadowlurker · Sep 22, 2019

Lacius said:
Kosmos uses Atmosphere, so they're basically the same thing. The only benefit of Kosmos is it comes pre-packaged with a lot of the stuff you're probably going to download anyway. I personally recommend using fusee-primary with vanilla Atmosphere, but it largely doesn't matter.

You should use this version of Tinfoil, which is patched to remove the malware that has been bundled with it: https://github.com/coniventia/tinfoilmod-releases/releases

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You need to check the serial number to figure out if it's patched or unpatched. A serial number can give an indication as to which system version might be installed, but there is no way to know for sure without opening it.

Buying an unpatched Switch is recommended.

Sounds good but not sure how to go about it, I notice HBG has a lot of folders and seemingly includes a forked version of atmosphere that I'm not sure I even want to use if necessary, or is the tinfoil folder all I need and I should swap the nro with the patched one?

Lacius · Sep 22, 2019

Shadowlurker said:
Sounds good but not sure how to go about it, I notice HBG has a lot of folders and seemingly includes a forked version of atmosphere that I'm not sure I even want to use if necessary, or is the tinfoil folder all I need and I should swap the nro with the patched one?

The tinfoil folder is all you need, and you should swap the nro with the one I provided. You will also need a mod_config.ini, like the one provided here. It also goes in the tinfoil folder.

Christian Rosado · Sep 22, 2019

Lacius said:
The tinfoil folder is all you need, and you should swap the nro with the one I provided. You will also need a mod_config.ini, like the one provided here. It also goes in the tinfoil folder.

I tried gettin incognito but the tutorial was using reinx on sys nand. Is there a guide that uses incognito on atmosphere/ kosmos that works on emu nand? something like that? thank you

Christian Rosado · Sep 22, 2019

Lacius said:
I recommend installing Incognito to your emuNAND.

okay, I was able to run incognito and get my Prodinfo backups. Now what? is this a one time thing I do? Can i just boot up on hekate emu as normally or do I need to do this everytime I boot up? thank you

JediAviator · Sep 22, 2019

Can I do a system transfer all my games save data from my old switch to the new switch lite with out messing with the CFW on the old switch? Don't want to have the switch lite hacked, but I want my NNID and saves to transfer to the new system with out any problems.

Draxzelex · Sep 22, 2019

SnakeByte said:
Ah, I was basing that off of the file dates -- looks like the dump utility wasn't privy to the actual time set on the switch when it created the files. I found shchmue's Firmware Version Inspector python script and after scanning the dump verified that my dump is as you said:
Firmware version found: 5.1.0 (no exFAT)
Most recent boot: 2018-12-02 00:45:19

Different question -- with the EmuMMC partition setup, it looks like people are still booting into RCM+payload and then choosing to boot OFW or CFW. Isn't the point of having OFW so that you don't need to RCM+payload? One would just power off the switch and power it back on again to play "stock"? Or is the payload still necessary so that a future OFW can't detect things like the EmuMMC partition on the Micro SD card? Or is the payload still necessary to upgrade to newer firmwares without burning the fuses? I assume the payload would then be necessary to lie to OFW about the number of burnt fuses?

Assuming they are booting "Stock" mode, then they are trying to avoid burning fuses but want to boot into a mode without CFW. Stock is not truly OFW as Stock mode through a custom bootloader bypasses the fuse check thereby potentially telling Nintendo you have a mismatched fuse count. However there is no evidence Nintendo currently checks for this.

mikeyt1998 said:
I have 2 questions, since I've been back and I'veseen a few things I'm interested in:.

1. What is warmboot? Benefits? Required firmware.

2. Is USB loading via the Dock a thing yet? I always imagined that XCI files would eventually be loadable through a USB.

Warmboot is an exploit that is launched while the console is already on. An example is Deja Vu which is launched through the browser and you cannot launch the browser without turning the console on
Currently, the only CFW that can manage this is SX OS and that is only with .XCI files. They offer support for installing .NSP files from an HDD but they do not allow for installation to HDD

Mike_77712 said:
Is there a way to get my switch to reboot to Hekate or emunand after restarting my sysnand instead of having it reboot sysnand again? I think i remember my switch rebooting directly to hekate from sysnand before i updated to 9.0.0.

When you are running CFW, the console's Reboot option is replaced with reboot_to_payload and reboots to the payload named "reboot_to_payload.bin" in your CFW folder.

benheisenberg said:
So uhm, small problem here. Updated to 8.0.1 and no payload is booting up the system. ReinX flashes the splash screen, then the sept logo and then the switch turns off.

Anybody got any suggestions? Already restored the switch from a backup and it's still working fine, so no bricky here.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Make sure you are running the latest version of ReiNX with ReiNX.bin on the root of your SD card.

Aquid said:
Hello there. A question regarding updating: Should I update to a higher firmware?
My Switch is running firmware 3.0.1 and is not patched (vulnerable to fusee-gelee).
As far as I understand, the Switch being not patched means I can run CFW on any firmware.
But is there anything special I can do with a lower firmware? Or what are some arguments against updating (from 3.0.1 specifically)?

Lower firmware versions have access to potentially better exploits such as untethered coldboot. However since we can update without burning fuses, thereby allowing us to downgrade back to the firmware before the update, there is not much need to stay on lower firmware versions. emuMMC can accomplish the same thing by duplicating your eMMC onto your SD card which you can update freely without burning fuses or AutoRCM.

battleicious said:
Looking for suggestions. I want to go online and have a clean nand backup on 6. Is there a way to upgrade my clean nand to 8.1.0 instead of being forced to jump to 9.0 after i restore the clean nand? Specifically looking for a clean way of doing this to prevent a ban or someone to let me know if 9.0 is ok to stay on (non patched switch, dont care about fuses). I could potentially downgrade my emummc once setup to 8.1.0 or stick with 9.0 if its fully supported now. Just worried about support for 9.0. Any ideas?

The only other clean way to update to firmware 8.1 is by performing a local game update with another console that has a game on a higher version as well as running firmware 8.1

LuigiXL said:
Sorry if covered but I couldn’t find it anywhere else.

I have a Switch with SX OS and would like to transfer two saves over to a new Switch Lite, is it possible without updating OFW? (I use emunand if it helps) I don’t care if Sx unit gets banned (but it hasn’t been yet) but unsure if to create a Nintendo account and use it on the old Switch or the new one, or both?

As long as you are not transferring any hacked/edited save files, there is no risk. After all, majority of bans are console-based not account-based.

fiver40 said:
I just picked up a unpatched switch running 4.1.

I have a RCM jig and 128GB MicroSD on the way coming tomorrow.

I have a Mac and an Android phone.

Could someone point me in the direction for a good tutorial to follow if I'm not missing anything?

Also I know in the FAQ it says that all firmwares are fine but the switch is asking me to do a system upgrade to 9.0 which it seems like there isn't CFW running properlly for it yet. Should I avoid going online/updating for awhile? Will I need to update either way to mod it?

System updates are only required if a game requires that firmware version or if you wish to play online. Firmware version plays no part in accessing the exploit as it is a hardware-based one meaning the software does not affect how the exploit works. I do recommend not updating to firmware 9.0 until CFW & homebrew offer better support for it. If you need a good tutorial, I can recommend you this

Zaxxx said:
Hi guys, I'm trying to restore backup, I'm having 6.2 atmosphere but the backup is on 4.1 I think, do I need to match this software, downgrade with ChoiDujourNX to 4.1 and after that restore and backup with stock firmware?

No, simply restore your backup then if your fuse count exceeds the expected count of 4.1, then you will need to enable AutoRCM. If the fuse count matches, then you do not need AutoRCM. You can check the list of firmware versions and their expected fuse counts here and you can check your fuse count with Hekate.

JediAviator said:
Can I do a system transfer all my games save data from my old switch to the new switch lite with out messing with the CFW on the old switch? Don't want to have the switch lite hacked, but I want my NNID and saves to transfer to the new system with out any problems.

As long as you are not transferring any hacked/edited save files, there is no risk. After all, majority of bans are console-based not account-based.

Azmort · Sep 23, 2019

So, after creating my new Emunand (on 9.0) I cannot longer use my carts, Sysnand and Emunand I got an error saying "Unable to start software" I deactivated the Auto no GC option, but it still doesn't work.

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