The ProJared drama

Ev1l0rd · May 13, 2019

FAST6191 said:
Solicit nudes from others or send unsolicited nudes to others? Most people seemed to be concerned with the former, or accusations thereof. Didn't see mention of the latter, or is it a new development?

You are unlikely to catch me doing either (this is the internet and for now at least there is plenty of access to far higher quality and more titillating versions of both than either such thing is likely to yield), and if his sponsors and colleagues want to drop him then so be it, but consenting people and all that.

He had an NSFW tumblr he used to sollicit and send his own nudes to fans, one of whom has come out and noted that he emotionally manipulated her in doing so (with evidence) and noted that she was 16. Another fan who noted she was underage as well did leak ProJareds dick pics and these have been making the rounds on the internet, and give additional credulence to the claims.

ProJared for the record is 34 at time of writing this post and the incident occured 2 years ago, so he was 32 at the time.

This is pedophilia at least in Texas and I know for sure in a couple of other states where the age of consent is above 16. It's not pedophilia where he lives (Washington, age of consent is 16), but it's still very fucking creepy for a 32 year old to be exchanging nudes with a 16 year old either way, especially if he's in a position to emotionally manipulate her.

FAST6191 · May 13, 2019

Taking that as read then would seem we are heading into interesting territory, more than has been made available thus far in the thread. Don't know what jurisdictions would be involved, nor what the laws regarding pictures* are in those cases, and whether they would have mens rea for it all (usually translated as guilty mind, and in this case would he have known or reasonably expected them as being under age, to say nothing of them wanting to be direct or directed requests). Creepy. Certainly, and acts of manipulation (not sure what such things would entail) would probably not help matters. Not sure if what has been described would also be enough for a warrant either. All that said though pending a proper assessment, or me getting bored enough to do one myself, rather than basic internet conjecture I am not going to be joining the torches and pitchforks set -- don't like witch hunts and this smacks somewhat of one.

*age of consent in the UK is 16, to take pictures of the act though then parties involved want to be 18 these days**, such is the fun of law but again no idea what goes wherever these might have taken place or count as having taken place at. What little I do know of US law here says things are possibly even more interesting to deal with.
**was 16 until relatively recently as these things go (might have been 1978, well into the era of colour photography and home video either way). This does also mean there are pictures of topless 16 year olds in nationally circulated newspapers which are in historical archives in libraries to make it even more fun.

Spooooooon · May 16, 2019

Wow I just went through the Jontron thread and goddamn by the end they weren’t even talking about Jontron I swear people talk about this shit just to argue also you can Ben a youtuber and have opinions on subjects like race gender racism politics and such don’t wanna see any of that stupid shit here I don’t agree with either Jon or Jared but I think saying they can’t have opinions cause they are gamers cause these people have fucking anime profile pictures but would foam from the mouth If someone said they couldn’t have opinions for that just a quick rant both of them are cunts.

Coolsonickirby · May 16, 2019

Spooooooon said:
I don’t agree with either Jon or Jared but I think saying they can’t have opinions cause they are gamers cause these people have fucking anime profile pictures but would foam from the mouth If someone said they couldn’t have opinions for that just a quick rant both of them are cunts.

For Jon, that was a matter of opinions, but someone cheating on their wife and soliciting/harassing/manipulating minors into sending nudes isn't a matter of opinion. That's breaking the law and being disgusting.

Coolsonickirby · Sep 1, 2019

So... is no one gonna talk about his new video?

WD_GASTER2 · Sep 1, 2019

everybody involved seems to be a not so great person. The internet seems to get behind the last person that had something to say.

thats what this looks like its boiling down to.

in any other more sensible age this matter should have been handled privately by all the parties involved. It really seems like they are bent on destroying each others names in the public sphere.

DuoForce · Sep 1, 2019

Who fucking cares, at the end of the day they are still providing me with entertainment!

Nerdtendo · Sep 1, 2019

Coolsonickirby said:
So... is no one gonna talk about his new video?

Saw this. The receipts look legit

PityOnU · Sep 1, 2019

My friend is a divorce attorney.

I asked him once how he felt about his job, given that he was (potentially) helping to split up families, or at the very least very long term, very involved relationships.

His response was such:

"Normal people don't tend to marry crazy people. Crazy people marry crazy people. Trust me, I am doing everyone involved a great service in the vast majority of cases."

osaka35 · Sep 1, 2019

Power doesn't corrupt. Power amplifies the corruption already present.

Most anything can look pretty terrible when it's taken out of context or cherry picked. I've been trying to keep track of what's going on, but it seems to be a mix of crazy people taking out their personal issues online. The video seems to help explain some things, but probably not everything. Could be they're all terrible people, could be no one is terrible and are just salty, could be a mix of the two. Don't care much beyond hope no one is torpedoed.

dAVID_ · Sep 1, 2019

Once again, more YouTube drama, that more often than not ends up being proven as false.
I'll be honest, I believed the false accusations at first.

Regarding the NSFW Tumblr and Snapchat, they specifically stated that they were meant for consenting adults.

SG854 · Sep 1, 2019

I think we need to be careful with this cancel culture stuff and take accusations with skepticism. It’s innocent till proven guilty.

A developer died after they made accusations against him. If these accusations aren’t true then this is really messed up.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/31/night-in-the-woods-developer-accused-of-sexual-assault-dies

I think Jared did a decent job of clearing his name of the pedo stuff.

For the cheating issues like I said before that’s none of my business and it’s for him and his wife to work out without the internet involved.

WD_GASTER2 · Sep 1, 2019

dAVID_ said:
Once again, more YouTube drama, that more often than not ends up being proven as false.
I'll be honest, I believed the false accusations at first.

Regarding the NSFW Tumblr and Snapchat, they specifically stated that they were meant for consenting adults.

Really? the internet is trying to turn him into "POONISHED" Jared (not reacting so much to your post as I am reacting to the thumbnail being used).
2 months ago they were crucifying him. The internet is sure filled with Clickbaiting reactionaries.

Mythical · Sep 1, 2019

This kinda shit hurts my head

dAVID_ · Sep 1, 2019

WD_GASTER2 said:
Really? the internet is trying to turn him into "POONISHED" Jared (not reacting so much to your post as I am reacting to the thumbnail being used).
2 months ago they were crucifying him. The internet is sure filled with Clickbaiting reactionaries.

I think he really was punished. These kinds of accusations leave a long-lasting effect.
Companies never want to be associated with a pedophile, and from the perspective of a company attempting to preserve a good image, that isn't unreasonable. Obviously, supporting individuals that participate in harmful acts against minors is an undesirable thing.
But this is assuming that the person is proven to be a pedophile (though I think that a different issue is these people not being accepted into society once they're out of prison, but that's out of this scope).
Even if he the accusations are unproven, companies will want to cut all relations with that person.
It's similar to how you won't find condom ads on pornography sites.

IncredulousP · Sep 1, 2019

dAVID_ said:
It's similar to how you won't find condom ads on pornography sites.

wait what?

Anfroid · Sep 1, 2019

Chary said:
ProJared is an internet/YouTube personality, who has been doing videos for a good few years now. He's someone with over 1 million subs, and is part of NormalBoots, aka the group of YouTubers that include PBGamer, at one point JonTron, and others. He's good friends with the GameGrumps crew as well, being in a good few of their videos as a guest before.

He's also been married for a while, to his wife, Heidi O'Ferrall, a fairly popular cosplayer and artist.

I feel old, I don't know who any of those people or groups are.

Fugelmir · Sep 1, 2019

He's circumcised so it seems like he has to be a natural enemy to me. Terrible person attracts terrible vindictive wife.

Nerdtendo · Sep 1, 2019

Fugelmir said:
He's circumcised so it seems like he has to be a natural enemy to me. Terrible person attracts terrible vindictive wife.

Is this irony?
Do you dislike jews or just people under circumstances they can't control

dAVID_ · Sep 1, 2019

Nerdtendo said:
Is this irony?
Do you dislike jews or just people under circumstances they can't control

Hold on, just because someone is circumcised, that doesn't mean that they're jewish.

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