Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

Draxzelex · Jul 19, 2019

RunFwrd said:
hello all. i was just recently banned. it's a shame cause i feel like i made it awhile before this actually happened.
anyways my first question is, i purchased the DLC fighters pass for smash bros so does mean that me being banned that i wont receive the new fighters when theyre released?
and also i cant really find a clear answer to this either, will i still be able to update my games due to my recent ban?
ive read yes and then ive read that nintendo changed that and that you cant now.
any help is greatly appreciated guys, im super bummed out

Assuming your account is not banned, you will only be able to download the DLC fighters on an unbanned console linked with the Nintendo Account that made the purchase. You can find out if your account is banned as well as if you can update your games online by filling out the form in the first post which has questions that address these points.

ColaBeldy said:
I've been told that it is safe to use Atmosphere for homebrews (save file editor and a couple of emulators) only. I.e. if you load Atmo and do not install any NSPs you should be safe going online and playing legitimately purchased titles.

Is this true?

This is based off of subjective experiences and not hard data. You always risk a ban when going online with a hacked console no matter what anyone tells you. Another way to look at it is to see how much is online worth it for you. If you would immediately buy a new console if you are banned, then never go online with CFW. Although since Atmosphere now supports emuMMC, you don't even have to take that risk as long as you have an SD card large enough to fit emuMMC.

ColaBeldy · Jul 19, 2019

Draxzelex said:
Although since Atmosphere now supports emuMMC, you don't even have to take that risk as long as you have an SD card large enough to fit emuMMC.

Well, the idea was to create two separate emuMMCs: the first one based on current NAND state with pirated games and the second one based on clean NAND dump.

This way I would be able to switch from one emuMMC to another without having to pass fusee-gelee payload each time I want to play pirated games. So if the risk of banning is low I would prefer to do that.

Draxzelex · Jul 19, 2019

ColaBeldy said:
Well, the idea was to create two separate emuMMCs: the first one based on current NAND state with pirated games and the second one based on clean NAND dump.

This way I would be able to switch from one emuMMC to another without having to pass fusee-gelee payload each time I want to play pirated games. So if the risk of banning is low I would prefer to do that.

That is fine and no one has been banned for using emuMMC as long as they never went online with the partition running CFW and homebrew.

Baoulettes · Jul 19, 2019

Console Banned : No
Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y

Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? No, Never
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? No
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? No
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Yes
SX OS used? Yes, constantly
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? No
Trimmed .XCI? Yes
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? Yes
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? Yes, my own
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? No
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? First version, I believe 1.0 ?
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? I do not use
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? No
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? No
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? No
Used DevMenu? No
Installed any .NSP? Yes, offline then removed it before connectin (was a dlc character pokken)
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? No
Did you play any .NSP installed online? No
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? No
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? Yes, XCI got update on Home Menu
Did you ever use ReiNX? No
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Yes, Retroarch, no error code
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? No
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? Yes, with SX OS
AutoRCM? AutoRCM
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? No
Did you install the exFAT update offline? Yes, one time but it got removed with an update and reinstalled with that update
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? Yes on other setting only/
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? No?
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? No?
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? No, never cleaned any logs
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? No
Console/Account Region(s)
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with?Custom unix build for raspberry B and sometime my win 10 N
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? No, I use different pin I posted it a while ago in a thread a picture of my homemade crap.

Good to note:
My primary account that shared both Switch and 3DS hacking stuff got restricted (not idea if that before or aafter sx os use)
My second account only on sx os work work fine online with my legit game like mario kart etc

ColaBeldy · Jul 19, 2019

Draxzelex said:
That is fine and no one has been banned for using emuMMC as long as they never went online with the partition running CFW and homebrew.

But it is impossible. emuMMC is available only within CFW. Isn't it?

Draxzelex · Jul 19, 2019

ColaBeldy said:
But it is impossible. emuMMC is available only within CFW. Isn't it?

There is an option in Hekate to boot emuMMC with Stock settings and although it is currently broken, it will become fixed in the future.

Rahkeesh · Jul 19, 2019

I guess the better question is what would that even mean. Because stock firmware itself isn't going to do the emummc redirection. You're running something custom by definition.

Draxzelex · Jul 19, 2019

Rahkeesh said:
I guess the better question is what would that even mean. Because stock firmware itself isn't going to do the emummc redirection. You're running something custom by definition.

It would be similar to booting Stock via Hekate where you do not apply any patches that CFW is known for but boot the console up as closely to normal as possible.

ColaBeldy · Jul 19, 2019

Draxzelex said:
It would be similar to booting Stock via Hekate

Earlier Stock option in Hekate just skipped fuse burn/check phase; everything else was kept intact. What has been changed recently in regards to this option?

Draxzelex · Jul 19, 2019

ColaBeldy said:
Earlier Stock option in Hekate just skipped fuse burn/check phase; everything else kept intact. What has been changed recently in regards to this option?

Nothing, that is still all it does.

Darkrai27 · Jul 19, 2019

ColaBeldy said:
I've been told that it is safe to use Atmosphere for homebrews (save file editor and a couple of emulators) only. I.e. if you load Atmo and do not install any NSPs you should be safe going online and playing legitimately purchased titles.

Is this true?

Not at all, homebrew can be detected in your logs, so you won't get banned instantly but in the future you will get banned. My recommendation is to create an EmuNAND to use homebrew and keep it offline, and use your sysNAND for online and legit play

Whole lotta love · Jul 19, 2019

Updating my log

Ordered SX OS when it came out. Have been using it with my own XCI backups, some NSP's, homebrew, and games I bought from the eShop since then with no ban. Have gone online with my backup XCI's (not downloaded ones or NSPs), though I haven't done that in a while. Otherwise I leave stealthmode on

Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y
If you cannot access the eShop, when was the last time/date you were able to?
Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? N
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? N
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? N
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
SX OS used? Y
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? N
Trimmed .XCI? Y
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? Y
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? Y
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? N
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.1
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? N
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? N
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? N
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? N
Used DevMenu? N
Installed any .NSP? Y
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? Y
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? OFW (only .XCI's)
Did you ever use ReiNX? N
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Y Retroarch
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? N
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? N
AutoRCM? N
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? N
Did you install the exFAT update offline? N
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? Y
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? ??
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? ???
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? N
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? N
Console/Account Region(s)
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? SX PRO
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? Y
If Banned, provide proof (video preferred)
Additional Comments

RunFwrd · Jul 19, 2019

Console Banned : YES
Can you use the eShop on the Switch? - NO

Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? - No
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? - Yes
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? IDK my system firmware is up to date.
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? - Yes
SX OS used? - Yes
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? - Made an emunand but erased it awhile back
Trimmed .XCI? - Yes
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? - No
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? - No
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? Not that I've seen
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? - never used sx online but lowest version used was back in December 2018, im not sure
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? I do not use
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? No
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? No
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? No
Used DevMenu? No
Installed any .NSP? - yes
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? - yes
Did you play any .NSP installed online? No
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? No
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? - Yes
Did you ever use ReiNX? No
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? - retroarch. have barley used it
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? No
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? no
AutoRCM? AutoRCM
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? No
Did you install the exFAT update offline? - no
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? - no
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? No?
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? No?
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? No, never cleaned any logs
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? No
Console/Account Region(s) - USA
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? - IDK?
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? IDK?

Jayro · Jul 20, 2019

I just got banned, two full years after using SX OS offline.

Banned: Y
Used any CDN Downloader: N
Unchecked "Send Errors" in Menu: N
Cleared Error Logs prior to going Online with nx-dreport: N
SX OS used offline: Y
SX OS used online: N
Played with SX Backups online: N
Layered FS Used offline: N
Layered FS Used online: N
Played with Layered FS Injects online: N
Homebrew Offline: Y
Connect internet with homebrew: N
Connect to eShop during CFW: N
Played with Layered FS Injects with OwnCert.: N
Does the Eshop work: N
Backups updated: N both cfw and ofw
WiFi settings deleted: N
Airplane mode: Y
AutoRCM: N
SX OS Version used when Online: 2.5.3
Auto Game Update/Downloads deactivated: N

I have been playing Splatoon online in updated OFW Horizon DAILY until today, so it had to be my activity log or my SD card's files that gave me away. I've only ever played XCI files offline and the n SX OS. Also, it's just a console ban, my account is fine. Error code was 2124-4508

Deleted User · Jul 20, 2019

Only used SX to play XCI games offline, thats it. Never touched an NSP, now I will

Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y/N N
If you cannot access the eShop, when was the last time/date you were able to? 2 days ago
Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? Y/N N
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? Y/N Y
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? Y/N n
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y/N y
SX OS used? Y/N y
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? Y/N Never went online in cfw mode, only in stock with legit games
Trimmed .XCI? Y/N n
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? Y/N n
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? Y/N n
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? Y/N n
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? X.X/N latest
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? Backups/Modding/Both/N
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? Y/N n
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? Y/N n
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? Y/N n
Used DevMenu? Y/N n
Installed any .NSP? Y/N n
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? Y/N n
Did you play any .NSP installed online? Y/N n
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? Y/N n
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? CFW/OFW/Both/N n
Did you ever use ReiNX? Y/N n
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Y/N (Specify any and all homebrew used/crashes/error codes) n
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? Y/N n
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? Y/N n
AutoRCM? TX/Hekate/Both/N n
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? Y/N n
Did you install the exFAT update offline? Y/N n
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? Y/N y
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? Y/N n
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? Y/N n
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? Y: X.X.X/N never cleared
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? Y/N Never had Wifi On/stealth mode
Console/Account Region(s) US
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? sx
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? Y/N Y

Draxzelex · Jul 20, 2019

RunFwrd said:
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? - IDK?
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? IDK?

You don't know what device you send payloads with? This is either a Windows, MacOS, Linux, Android, iOS, dongle, etc. Also pins 9 and 10 are the two pins in the back with pin 10 being the pin you have to short to enter RCM. If you connect those two pins together, you can enter RCM. So have you ever connected those 2 pins together to trigger RCM?

Jayro said:
I just got banned, two full years after using SX OS offline.

I hope you're not implying you've been using SX OS for two whole years since its only been out for one. The Nintendo Switch certainly has been out for two years but backup launching only became available around the time SX OS came out.

Jayro said:
Banned: Y
Used any CDN Downloader: N
Unchecked "Send Errors" in Menu: N
Cleared Error Logs prior to going Online with nx-dreport: N
SX OS used offline: Y
SX OS used online: N
Played with SX Backups online: N
Layered FS Used offline: N
Layered FS Used online: N
Played with Layered FS Injects online: N
Homebrew Offline: Y
Connect internet with homebrew: N
Connect to eShop during CFW: N
Played with Layered FS Injects with OwnCert.: N
Does the Eshop work: N
Backups updated: N both cfw and ofw
WiFi settings deleted: N
Airplane mode: Y
AutoRCM: N
SX OS Version used when Online: 2.5.3
Auto Game Update/Downloads deactivated: N

I'm also not sure where you got such an outdated ban report form. I highly encourage you to fill out the form in the first post as that one has much simpler and specific questions while reducing some of the redundant questions such as Airplane Mode.

Jayro said:
I have been playing Splatoon online in updated OFW Horizon DAILY until today, so it had to be my activity log or my SD card's files that gave me away. I've only ever played XCI files offline and the n SX OS. Also, it's just a console ban, my account is fine. Error code was 2124-4508

This is also where I have to respectfully disagree. Not only is it ludicrous to believe that Nintendo is scanning SD cards for files, even under the assumption they do, it would lead to potential privacy violations and false positives. What clearly led to your ban was using .XCI files and connecting the console online. Not even OFW is safe as it has already been proven to lead to bans after the LayeredFS banwave. There was even a user who just got banned for doing very similar things as you as seen here. Now you might wonder why you suddenly got banned? Well it appears that a banwave was spread and your console was already flagged months in advance so it was simply your time. Bans are random after all. If you check a few posts above you, there is a user who has .NSP files installed and hasn't been banned for months. There is no "safe" hacks, it is only a matter of time until everyone is banned.

brandonspikes said:
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? -
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? -

You just copied these questions and answers from the user above and unless you both started using SX OS in last December, I doubt this was the lowest version you personally used so please specify. You should also know what device you send payloads with. These include Windows 10, MacOS, Linux, Android, iOS, and dongles.

Deleted User · Jul 20, 2019

My bad, I re edited my post.

I never sent payloads outside of SXOS, I just used SXOS to play games offline in SX CFW and played legit games in stock FW, never installed an NSP before ever, never played online in XCI games, cant anyways since SXOS has stealthmode on and you cant load XCI's in stock FW.

I legit thought I was safe, I was playing Mario Maker 2 online with a real cart, It's not really a big deal, I never played any other online Switch games, just used my Switch for exclusives.

I went on their forums and a few people said they got banned also and never played online.

Guessing Nintendo is going ban mode before Switch Light comes out.

Paulsar99 · Jul 20, 2019

Makes me wonder if nintendo are now able to detect emunand and they're just waiting and collecting users for the mass banning?

Deleted User · Jul 20, 2019

Unleanone999 said:
Makes me wonder if nintendo are now able to detect emunand and they're just waiting and collecting users for the mass banning?

Never used Emunand.

Paulsar99 · Jul 20, 2019

brandonspikes said:
Never used Emunand.

I was asking in general and not in your case. But I feel like nintendo is now able to check a cards content once you connect to their servers.

Also I red in my fb group that kefir updater might also get you tagged for a banning and I also wonder if there are any truth to this?

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