Nintendo possibly upgrading the CPU & storage in the original Switch model, according to report

Frankbel · Jul 12, 2019

I hope that they increase the size of the screen in the switch pro refresh ultra.

DeoNaught · Jul 12, 2019

WhiteMaze said:
I really, really hate Nintendo for this right now. Discusting business practice. Not giving customers what they want didn't go that well last time. I just hope we're not entering another non-consumer-friendly period from Nintendo, now that they are on top of the world again.

I disagree, Alot of people play Switch in handheld mode, Only time I do it is for Competitive games and multiplayer gaming. in my household I'm the only with a switch, My sister is thinking of getting one, and She's the type of person who plays pretty much in handheld mode. a lower price point, and no dock is a big audience I think Nintendo is striking a chord with them.

It's not anti consumer if you give them what they want.

Erxkum said:
This revision will only be for Nintendo's convenience, it will be an invisible revision like the different SNES versions, the main reason for this chip upgrade is most certainly to patch the hack exploit and to use the same chip the lite will be using, I'm guessing it may provide better cooling performance.

I think so too, but I don't think it's the pro version, Just another silent upgrade. IDK where I read it, but the OG switch cpu's aren't available anymore, so they are going to use the ones in the switch now, which means better battery life and better cooling iirc

Obveron · Jul 12, 2019

EvilMakiPR said:
No. The Pro its still coming. NVIDIA is preparing the next TEGRA CHIP

DF called it
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Nah it's the 7nm tegra x1 revision T210B01. Should run a bit cooler and get better battery life. Potentially more overlcocking headroom. It's what is in the lite, not a significant enough upgrade to be the pro.

Darkshadow1997 · Jul 12, 2019

So there is not going to be a new switch hardware other than the lite model? So should I get a switch now?

Erxkum · Jul 12, 2019

darkshadow1997 said:
So there is not going to be a new switch hardware other than the lite model? So should I get a switch now?

If you want a hackable switch, yes.

_hexkyz_ · Jul 12, 2019

GerbilSoft said:
According to hexkyz, both the Switch Lite and the Switch "Refresh" use the Tegra 214. It'll be more power efficient due to the smaller process node, and *might* be slightly faster (DDR4 instead of DDR3, and slightly higher clock speeds), but overall will basically be the exact same thing we have now.

https://twitter.com/hexkyz/status/1149349171993776128

Just a minor correction: the new models will have LPDDR4x instead of the current LPDDR4 (and not DDR3).
LPDDR4x is still LPDDR4 but it is much more power efficient due to being able to work at lower voltages. There's also plans to bring 10nm chips.

I probably should have used a different term than "New" ("Refresh" or "Upgrade" would indeed fit better) as everything indicates the unit will be pretty much the same Switch we know but with an upgraded SoC, better RAM, slightly faster GPU and maybe more storage (still unclear).

Erxkum · Jul 12, 2019

_hexkyz_ said:
Just a minor correction: the new models will have LPDDR4x instead of the current LPDDR4 (and not DDR3).
LPDDR4x is still LPDDR4 but it is much more power efficient due to being able to work at lower voltages. There's also plans to bring 10nm chips.

I probably should have used a different term than "New" ("Refresh" or "Upgrade" would indeed fit better) as everything indicates the unit will be pretty much the same Switch we know but with an upgraded SoC, better RAM, slightly faster GPU and maybe more storage (still unclear).

We'll see when they release it, it will probably have a different coding on the box.

ElYubiYubi · Jul 12, 2019

Obveron said:
Nah it's the 7nm tegra x1 revision T210B01. Should run a bit cooler and get better battery life. Potentially more overlcocking headroom. It's what is in the lite, not a significant enough upgrade to be the pro.

Theres that one and the Next Gen TEGRA that NVIDIA is working on.

tbb043 · Jul 12, 2019

Chary said:
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Megadriver94 · Jul 12, 2019

Chary said:
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The Nintendo Switch Lite has just become the latest addition to the Nintendo hardware lineup, offering the ability to play Switch games, but in a smaller form-factor, and for a little less cost. Though we likely won't be seeing a "Switch Pro" any time soon, it appears that Nintendo is looking into making a few tweaks to the existing, original Switch model. Curiously, Nintendo has filed a Class II Permission Change with the United State's FCC, and according to those documents, it appears that the Big N wants to revamp the original Switch, with a slight change to its system-on-chip (SoC) and NAND (flash storage). Filing this claim with the FCC would allow for Nintendo to sell these refreshed consoles, while avoiding the process of re-certification, and being able to keep the hardware refresh under wraps.

As to what this means for the end-user, it might not mean much of anything. On the other hand, some newer components could give a very slight boost to performance, possibly resulting in a system that doesn't run as hot, has faster load times, or maybe has a mild increase in battery life. We won't know anything official until Nintendo confirms it, or someone spots one of these upgraded models out in the wild. It wouldn't be the powerhouse people were hoping for in the rumored Switch Pro model, but with Doug Bowser confirming that the Switch Lite is the only new hardware we'll be seeing from Nintendo this year, it might be the best we can get.

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Who knows? maybe we will get the Switch Pro. Or maybe it will be called the Switch XL...

netovsk · Jul 12, 2019

Either way it still won't be running 9 out of 10 AAA releases so might as well get the lite.

WhiteMaze · Jul 12, 2019

DeoNaught said:
I disagree, Alot of people play Switch in handheld mode, Only time I do it is for Competitive games and multiplayer gaming. in my household I'm the only with a switch, My sister is thinking of getting one, and She's the type of person who plays pretty much in handheld mode. a lower price point, and no dock is a big audience I think Nintendo is striking a chord with them.

It's not anti consumer if you give them what they want.

I think so too, but I don't think it's the pro version, Just another silent upgrade. IDK where I read it, but the OG switch cpu's aren't available anymore, so they are going to use the ones in the switch now, which means better battery life and better cooling iirc

I wholeheartedly disagree. I do not recall virtually any meaningful amount of people, asking for a version of this console that does not dock, does not detach the joycons and with a smaller screen..

This is a downgrade, not an upgrade.

However I do recall, legions of people both online and offline, begging for a Switch Pro. A new more powerful switch that can handle new games and older games better.

The only reason this new version was released, is to offer a lower price point than the original. In other words, the original Switch is still the premium model.

What Nintendo should have done, was release the new Switch Pro, while dropping the price of the older model to $200.

That, would have sold both models and it gives everyone what they want.

Erxkum · Jul 12, 2019

WhiteMaze said:
I wholeheartedly disagree. I do not recall virtually any meaningful amount of people, asking for a version of this console that does not dock, does not detach the joycons and with a smaller screen..

This is a downgrade, not an upgrade.

However I do recall, legions of people both online and offline, begging for a Switch Pro. A new more powerful switch that can handle new games and older games better.

The only reason this new version was released, is to offer a lower price point than the original. In other words, the original Switch is still the premium model.

What Nintendo should have done, was release the new Switch Pro, while dropping the price of the older model to $200.

That, would have sold both models and it gives everyone what they want.

You're right, no one asked for it, but after seeing it for what it is and being a father, I'm now interested on the lite, to say there's no market for this is being blind.
I can bet with you that Nintendo will release a Switch Pro, because Nintendo knows it can't get by without third parties and for that it needs hardware capable of downgraded ports of PS5 and xbox next, I just think Nintendo is going to release the lite this year to meet their objective of more than one switch per household by Christmas, and you know the lite is going to sell like crazy on Christmas.

Then the silent hardware revision will make after-Christmas Flagship Switch re-stock a more stable console that will give less problems regarding hardware heat, fix the hack exploit and probably cost them less to make.

My bet is the Switch Pro will be announced for 2021, but I could be wrong and Nintendo may want to release a Switch Pro before 2020 Christmas in order to share Christmas sales with the PS5/xbox next.

WhiteMaze · Jul 12, 2019

Erxkum said:
You're right, no one asked for it, but after seeing it for what it is and being a father, I'm now interested on the lite, to say there's no market for this is being blind.
I can bet with you that Nintendo will release a Switch Pro, because Nintendo knows it can't get by without third parties and for that it needs hardware capable of downgraded ports of PS5 and xbox next, I just think Nintendo is going to release the lite this year to meet their objective of more than one switch per household by Christmas, and you know the lite is going to sell like crazy on Christmas.

Then the silent hardware revision will make after-Christmas Flagship Switch re-stock a more stable console that will give less problems regarding hardware heat, fix the hack exploit and probably cost them less to make.

My bet is the Switch Pro will be announced for 2021, but I could be wrong and Nintendo may want to release a Switch Pro before 2020 Christmas in order to share Christmas sales with the PS5/xbox next.

I understand your point. However it still makes the Switch Lite unnecessary. Like I said previously, the same Christmas sales would be there, if a significant price drop was announced for the original Switch, while introducing the new Switch Pro. If anything, that combination would make far more money than the Switch Lite on its own. Especially around Christmas.

Which brings me to my original point: Nintendo is doing this, to sell the original Switch stock still on shelves at full price, because there's still a lot of unsold Switches, before releasing the Switch Pro. In other words, Nintendo is deliberately holding back the new Switch everyone wants for yesterday, for the sake of full price sales on older technology.

That is completely anti-consumer and only looking after themselves. Sales first, consumer second.

I cannot look past this.

ZachyCatGames · Jul 12, 2019

SANIC said:
Did we ever find out was Mariko was?

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GerbilSoft said:
DDR4 instead of DDR3, and slightly higher clock speeds

*LPDDR4 to LPDDR4X, and clocks speeds aren't changed
edit: just noticed hexkyz already responded kek

71r3n · Jul 13, 2019

Everyones talkin bout switch light unneedet, but what about all the 3ds ppl? On a serious sidenote: when do you ppl got your first gameboy (yeah, im talkin bout that onld klunky grey box with the green screen)? What was its price back then? And thats why you got a gameboy as a kid, and a snes a good bit later.

If its realy hitting the marked for 199$ (and maybe even 199€ in europe) then this thing will get sold out even faster then the 3ds...

NightsEkim · Jul 13, 2019

Silent_Gunner said:
Long story short, don't get your hopes up for the Switch to go up against the GPD WIN Max anytime soon!

You're comparing a console against a portable mini PC... Not really a fair comparison in the first place.

71r3n · Jul 13, 2019

ikithme said:
You're comparing a console against a portable mini PC... Not really a fair comparison in the first place.

Yeah... for the GPD win. Like said before, you could get one main switch, one second hacked switch and a switch lite for that damn price. In no wait does anything weight for the GPD.
And if you read about the games and how they are mostly modded (downsclaing textures etc) then u will see, that its indeed unfair... for the GPD.

Waygeek · Jul 13, 2019

Silent_Gunner said:
Long story short, don't get your hopes up for the Switch to go up against the GPD WIN Max anytime soon!

How did this idea even occur to you, one is a 300 quid device, the other is twice that at least. An idea so dumbfounding it completely derailed the thread...

ganons said:
I'm calling it now: Switch Pro will release with BOTW 2

Very likely. A lot of Nintendo's handheld hardware/revisions launched with a Zelda.

Pipistrele · Jul 13, 2019

Silent_Gunner said:
Long story short, don't get your hopes up for the Switch to go up against the GPD WIN Max anytime soon!

GPD WIN devices always struck me as some of those impressive-but-impractical pieces of hardware that usually outstay their welcome in a month or so. Running modern-ish PC games on a handheld is a fun idea on surface, but battery life is all over the place (especially with that x86 processor), specs are quick to get outdated (which hits PC devices much harder than console ones), and if you break something on this thing, it's going to be a hell to repair. Where Switch can't stand up in specs, it can stand up in just being more usable all around.

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