Junichi Masuda responds to backlash over Pokemon Sword and Shield not including every Pokemon

StarHime · Jun 29, 2019

Xzi said:
Isn't that essentially what Sword and Shield are? An open world to explore with various weather effects. I think they're even on the same engine, and the uglier environment details come down to having more models on the screen at any given time.

I agree that the concept of Wild Area is quite cool, and I wish they improved it on future games, but it's not exactly BOTW: the Wild Area isn't a full open world, it's just a "big route" that connects some cities. It's not all the game, it's just one area. The game still has towns, routes, forests and caves, etc... . Also, it's not a change big enough to compare to BOTW, perhaps if it covered all the region and the game removed its linearity in favor of something like BOTW or TW3...

Deleted User · Jun 29, 2019

Xzi said:
To be fair, I'd say it was a lot lazier releasing so many generations with no changes to the gameplay loop whatsoever. Let's Go at least felt somewhat fresh because of the Pokemon in the overworld and the catching mechanics. Similarly, Sword/Shield should feel fresh because of the open world, raid battles, etc.

Generations 3-7 may as well have been DLC for generation 1 and 2. Of course, DLC wasn't really a thing back then, but I think you get my point.

catch is though the games up to then where priced at 30 dollars. Now we are paying 60, and getting half the quality of what should be expected.

Xzi · Jun 29, 2019

StarHime said:
I agree that the concept of Wild Area is quite cool, and I wish they improved it on future games, but it's not exactly BOTW: the Wild Area isn't a full open world, it's just a "big route" that connects some cities. It's not all the game, it's just one area. The game still has towns, routes, forests and caves, etc... . Also, it's not a change big enough to compare to BOTW, perhaps if it covered all the region and the game removed its linearity in favor of something like BOTW or TW3...

Are you sure about that? I got the impression that the area between cities was all open-world. I'm sure it'll still have forests and caves with a loading screen transistion, but those are likely to be wide open areas too. At least far more so than they used to be.

StarHime · Jun 29, 2019

Xzi said:
Are you sure about that? I got the impression that the area between cities was all open-world. I'm sure it'll still have forests and caves with a loading screen transistion, but those are likely to be wide open areas too. At least far more so than they used to be.

Route 1 is at least confirmed, so I'm quite positive. Also, the region map seems route-based.

Mythical · Jun 29, 2019

I'd rather have a whole reboot tbh. A whole Pokemon universe as a separate entity from the one we already know. Maybe with different game logic, a separate batch pokemon, and some more stuff like that of walking on walls and such stuff from the platinum dark world times.

pedro702 · Jun 29, 2019

Xzi said:
Are you sure about that? I got the impression that the area between cities was all open-world. I'm sure it'll still have forests and caves with a loading screen transistion, but those are likely to be wide open areas too. At least far more so than they used to be.

hmm no from what they said there is a big area in the middle of the map that connects cities and such that open area is kinda open becuase it will be locked until you meet the requirements to enter another city so most of the open area is locked or else you would just throw a pokeball get lucky catch a lvl 55 tyranitar walking around on the first walk and you brooke the game lol.

remenber unlike RPGS you dont need to defeat the wild enemy in pokemon you can catch it and even a pokeball has a certain probability with full health.

but nope it has a huge open area on the middle but on the sides it still has routes and suchs, that area will be like a big safari zone with internet mode stuff mostl likely.

gman666 · Jun 30, 2019

I feel like everyone has already said their peace about this decision and people need to start showing how they feel with their wallet. Don't buy this title and show Game Freak that these types of changes are not acceptable.

Xzi · Jun 30, 2019

pedro702 said:
hmm no from what they said there is a big area in the middle of the map that connects cities and such that open area is kinda open becuase it will be locked until you meet the requirements to enter another city so most of the open area is locked or else you would just throw a pokeball get lucky catch a lvl 55 tyranitar walking around on the first walk and you brooke the game lol.

But they did show that Pokemon are progressively higher level the further out you explore. I don't think those areas are hard-locked, you're just way more likely to have all your Pokemon faint before you catch anything high level. Plus anything you miraculously manage to catch won't obey you until you get the right gym badge.

pedro702 · Jun 30, 2019

Xzi said:
But they did show that Pokemon are progressively higher level the further out you explore. I don't think those areas are hard-locked, you're just way more likely to have all your Pokemon faint before you catch anything high level. Plus anything you miraculously manage to catch won't obey you until you get the right gym badge.

i remneber they said areas are locked until you get the clear condition so yes the open world will be small and then expand once you get more badges or hm moves for sure.

a noone obeing lvl 55 pokemon would still just brooke the game you can just save in the area an throw a pokeball until you catch one lol.

CorpseFlower · Jun 30, 2019

the thing i find stupid is they now have game marked up to $60 but it not $60 quality

Xzi · Jun 30, 2019

pedro702 said:
a noone obeing lvl 55 pokemon would still just brooke the game you can just save in the area an throw a pokeball until you catch one lol.

But in that same vein, in every generation you've always been able to trade high-level Pokemon to trainers that can't handle them yet. It was never considered to 'break' the game before. Sure, it's possible to make all the single-player parts easier that way, but I don't think GF really cares if you want to deprive yourself of a more balanced experience. It's just like twinking in an RPG.

raxadian · Jun 30, 2019

SonowRaevius said:
"We get that you are upset, but fuck you because we know we will make bank on this game anyways"

Not getting Sword and Shield anyway. Because I don't wanna update my Switch firmware and I don't care about Kaiju battles or the new Pokemon.

BlueFox gui · Jun 30, 2019

i don't like new poopoomon

there's no maractus

Sonansune · Jun 30, 2019

You are really something, Masuda san.

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BlueFox gui said:
i don't like new poopoomon
there's no maractus

poopoomon.... how cute.

goldensun87 · Jun 30, 2019

I did not buy S&M or USUM, so I definitely won't be buying these.

Dax_Fame · Jun 30, 2019

"We feel really bad about not having all of them, honestly. Maybe later though... Be ready to buy on November 15th!"

Hell of a statement. My concerns have been addressed and I'm ready to throw my money at them. Talk about fan service! Bravo!

goldensun87 · Jun 30, 2019

MythicalData said:
I'd rather have a whole reboot tbh. A whole Pokemon universe as a separate entity from the one we already know. Maybe with different game logic, a separate batch pokemon, and some more stuff like that of walking on walls and such stuff from the platinum dark world times.

That is what Pikachu and Eevee were supposed to be, but they fucked it up by using Pokemon Go mechanics. A proper reboot should have all the moves and mechanics from throughout the generations, minus all the other pokemon and pokemon-specific items. A proper reboot would have been the most practical move as well, because while they are rereleasing the first 7 generations, technology and hardware will evolve enough to contain another 7 generations of pokemon. Not only that, Game Freak could have used that time to create new pokemon designs for multiple generations, and release them in batches over the years.

Or they could branch out the series and make an official "battle simulator" for the competitive niche, and let players build teams for battling without any of the extra work. Cutting out most of the game, leaves absolutely no excuse for not having a National Pokedex and not being able to model and animate every pokemon.

DJPlace · Jun 30, 2019

the first mainline pokemon game without having all pokemon in it is a jerk move GF.

dAVID_ · Jun 30, 2019

Or they could just be honest and say the game is rushed.

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