EON reveals their Super 64 adapter, which allows for "zero-lag" N64 output through HDMI

SuperDan · Jun 26, 2019

Yeahh Nahhh its about 20 years late

contezero · Jun 26, 2019

Eon didn't create the gchd. The device is open source, they just put a fancy enclosure around it. There are plenty of svideo to hdmi converter/upscaler, much cheaper and probably they use the same chips.

GalladeGuy · Jun 26, 2019

contezero said:
Eon didn't create the gchd. The device is open source, they just put a fancy enclosure around it. There are plenty of svideo to hdmi converter/upscaler, much cheaper and probably they use the same chips.

Not only did they not make it, it costs almost $100 more than DIY solutions. I guess it's good that they're making this stuff more available to newcomers, but the way they're doing it isn't very good.

Mama Looigi · Jun 26, 2019

Sounds interesting. The only problem is that I lost my N64, and I can’t find it anywhere

R0B0T0 · Jun 26, 2019

Scarlet said:
I'm pretty sure that's a selling point of all the big money upscalers?

The Framemeister has lag (it uses a framebuffer), which is one of the pros of using an OSSC instead. However, the OSSC has no Composite/S-Video inputs, which is why it can't be used directly with an unmodified N64.

GalladeGuy · Jun 26, 2019

R0B0T0 said:
The Framemeister has lag (it uses a framebuffer), which is one of the pros of using an OSSC instead. However, the OSSC has no Composite/S-Video inputs, which is why it can't be used directly with an unmodified N64.

Why would you want to use an OSSC with low quality inputs, though? If you're buying an OSSC you're probably the kind of person who wants to use RGB/Component for everything anyways.

Daggot · Jun 26, 2019

R0B0T0 said:
The Framemeister has lag (it uses a framebuffer), which is one of the pros of using an OSSC instead. However, the OSSC has no Composite/S-Video inputs, which is why it can't be used directly with an unmodified N64.

Eh, its quite literally 1 frame of lag.

Tom Bombadildo · Jun 26, 2019

Meh, I'll just stick with my CRT for that price.

DANTENDO · Jun 26, 2019

Mr. Looigi said:
Sounds interesting. The only problem is that I lost my N64, and I can’t find it anywhere

I can understand you can't find it if lived somewher like Buckingham Palace

SG6000 · Jun 26, 2019

While I'm confident the scaler probably outperforms the Framemeister in terms of added lag it's disappointing that only does 480p and is the cost of an OSSC.

Hard pass.

depaul · Jun 26, 2019

Xzi said:
Sounds good, only one problem: a lot of HDTVs won't accept a 480p signal, mine included. Thus the reason a good CRT is worth its weight in gold these days.

That's right upscaled 480p consoles look terrible on HD/4K TVs and motion gets very blurry. First I thought it was my TV but then I tried different TVs and they just aren't as good as old TVs for old consoles.

WeedZ · Jun 26, 2019

Probably not a good idea to run that on the carpet.

|<roni&g · Jun 27, 2019

I have my PAL 64 hooked up to my HDTV through a scart that has an s-video slot on it, doesn’t look great but maybe it’s not true s-video since it’s going through a scart

$150 though, hopefully China copies it if they’re going to be greedy on the price

raxadian · Jun 27, 2019

How much does a used CRT in good state costs again?

Truly at this rate I am never ever getting rid of my old CRT Sony TV.

GalladeGuy · Jun 27, 2019

raxadian said:
How much does a used CRT in good state costs again?

Truly at this rate I am never ever getting rid of my old CRT Sony TV.

If you want a good crt, a PVM goes for $100-$200 on ebay. They're not that big, but they're very high quality.

atoxique · Jun 27, 2019

Xzi said:
Sounds good, only one problem: a lot of HDTVs won't accept a 480p signal, mine included. Thus the reason a good CRT is worth its weight in gold these days.

I find that so wild!! What kind of TVs are you buying? Or is it an American thing? My 4K TV can display 480p just fine!!

raxadian · Jun 27, 2019

GalladeGuy said:
If you want a good crt, a PVM goes for $100-$200 on ebay. They're not that big, but they're very high quality.

You can get a used CRT Sony "Box" for like 50 to 60 bucks, works perfectly for all those old videogame consoles and if you get the right model, is sturdy as hell.

And yes a PS3 can work on it.

Yeah a shame my.old TV is only worth that much, but I still love it.

Edit: Yup, all work, from my oldie Master System to PS3, and the N64 looks good too.

GalladeGuy · Jun 27, 2019

raxadian said:
You can get a used CRT Sony "Box" for like 50 to 60 bucks, works perfectly for all old those video game consoles and if you get the right model, is sturdy as hell.

And yes a PS3 can work on it.

Yeah a shame my.old TV is only worth that much, but I still love it.

You can even get CRTs for free, it doesn't mean they're going to be high quality. They'll probably be compatible with whatever console you're using, but it won't look as good as it would on a professional display.

Xzi · Jun 27, 2019

atoxique said:
I find that so wild!! What kind of TVs are you buying? Or is it an American thing? My 4K TV can display 480p just fine!!

I don't know if it's a regional thing, a brand thing, manufacture year, or what. The family has plenty of 1080p TVs that will work with a 480p signal, including an LG, but my LG 4K TV can only go down as low as 800x600.

Not really a big deal thanks to emulation, of course, and if you're gonna use original hardware, everything looks way better on a CRT.

g4jek8j54 · Jun 27, 2019

raxadian said:
How much does a used CRT in good state costs again?

Truly at this rate I am never ever getting rid of my old CRT Sony TV.

Fairly recently, I picked up a twenty-seven inch Sony Trinitron for twenty dollars. It has several different inputs (component, composite, s-video, cable). I have hooked up several systems/players to it so far (N64, Dreamcast, Wii, and my old DVD/VCR player), and in my opinion, the picture looks amazing (I love the way my 4:3 content looks on it). The only possible downside (if any) is that it has a flat screen (I would have preferred a curved screen), as I've read that they can have geometry issues. I don't understand what that means, though, and I haven't personally noticed any issues with the picture so far. :-/

I would love to get a PVM or BVM, but don't feel like spending that kind of money. Overall, I consider the Trinitron to be an upgrade over my previous CRT, which only had an input for the cable.

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