Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

NightsEkim · Jun 14, 2019

I posted in noob paradise but I'll post this here as well:

Before I go through with this, can my switch get banned for extracting keys using BISKEYDUMP and Lockpick_RCM, as well as HacDiscMount and stuff that isn't CFW or game backup related?

My end intention is to extract keys, pull a BOTW save off of the switch, extract it from the save file, inject the edited save back in to the save file, inject the edited save file back in to the switches emmc and play the edited save.

I've already proof of concept'ed it on my hacked switch so I know the method I'm using works, just a roundabout way of editing a save since CFW online gets you banned.

isorropisths · Jun 15, 2019

Been using SX OS since the beginning, Wi-Fi always on, even went to eShop once for a minute. But what banned me, was Pokemon. Today I tried to catch Mew from the Poke Ball Plus device and it tried to connect to the internet, which lead to a ban.

Draxzelex · Jun 15, 2019

isorropisths said:
Been using SX OS since the beginning, Wi-Fi always on, even went to eShop once for a minute. But what banned me, was Pokemon. Today I tried to catch Mew from the Poke Ball Plus device and it tried to connect to the internet, which lead to a ban.

Would prefer a full report which you can find in the first post of this thread.

jacopastorius · Jun 21, 2019

hi all. I just accidentally pressed the eshop icon while i was with wifi on in atmosphere. I got a window saying something about errors. I suddendly got rid of it pressing home button and turning wifi off. Do you think i got banned?

wiifii · Jun 21, 2019

try again see what it says without atmosphere of cos

jacopastorius · Jun 21, 2019

do you mean from a clean nand backup?

Draxzelex · Jun 21, 2019

jacopastorius said:
do you mean from a clean nand backup?

Well what do you mean by errors? What error code did you get? Did you try connecting while running 90DNS/Stealth Mode/Incognito?

If yes, then you are probably not banned yet as those are designed to prevent connections to Nintendo.

If no, then you may not be banned now but you are most likely flagged on their servers. Also your clean NAND backup would be useless in this scenario because now Nintendo knows you are running CFW. Your NAND backup is still useful for recovering from a brick but it will no longer help prevent a ban.

jacopastorius · Jun 21, 2019

Draxzelex said:
Well what do you mean by errors? What error code did you get? Did you try connecting while running 90DNS/Stealth Mode/Incognito?

If yes, then you are probably not banned yet as those are designed to prevent connections to Nintendo.

If no, then you may not be banned now but you are most likely flagged on their servers. Also your clean NAND backup would be useless in this scenario because now Nintendo knows you are running CFW. Your NAND backup is still useful for recovering from a brick but it will no longer help prevent a ban.

I was using 90 DNS. Unfortunately I can't remember what errors I got because I suddenly got rid of that window. So if you were me, would you try to restore the clean nand and try to access the eshop?

chrisrlink · Jun 21, 2019

probably too late man those nintendo ninja's are fast

someonenoone11 · Jun 22, 2019

I was gonna fill out the questionnaire but it was too complicated. Since this forum helped me out a lot I'll just post what I know and hope it helps.

I installed layeredFS solely for modding. I installed Atmosphere and did the recovery mode boot with Tegra and that's all I did. No homebrew or piracy or anything. And I'm not banned.

edit: I also never went online and played on airplane mode exclusively.

Draxzelex · Jun 22, 2019

jacopastorius said:
I was using 90 DNS. Unfortunately I can't remember what errors I got because I suddenly got rid of that window. So if you were me, would you try to restore the clean nand and try to access the eshop?

Draxzelex said:
Well what do you mean by errors? What error code did you get? Did you try connecting while running 90DNS/Stealth Mode/Incognito?

If yes, then you are probably not banned yet as those are designed to prevent connections to Nintendo.

If no, then you may not be banned now but you are most likely flagged on their servers. Also your clean NAND backup would be useless in this scenario because now Nintendo knows you are running CFW. Your NAND backup is still useful for recovering from a brick but it will no longer help prevent a ban.

someonenoone11 said:
I was gonna fill out the questionnaire but it was too complicated. Since this forum helped me out a lot I'll just post what I know and hope it helps.

I installed layeredFS solely for modding. I installed Atmosphere and did the recovery mode boot with Tegra and that's all I did. No homebrew or piracy or anything. And I'm not banned.

edit: I also never went online and played on airplane mode exclusively.

You should still fill it out. All except one question are yes/no or where you pick from one choice. If you don't know the answer, chances are you probably do not use it.

huma_dawii · Jun 22, 2019

Are the bans back?

[Truth] · Jun 22, 2019

Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y
If you cannot access the eShop, when was the last time/date you were able to?
Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? N
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? N
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? N
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
SX OS used? N
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? N
Trimmed .XCI? N
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? N
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? N
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? N
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? N
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? N
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? N
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? N
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? N
Used DevMenu? N
Installed any .NSP? N
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? N
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? N
Did you ever use ReiNX? N
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Y
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? Y
AutoRCM? N
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? N
Did you install the exFAT update offline? N
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? N
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? N
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? N
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? N
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? N
Console/Account Region(s) EU
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? PC
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? Y
If Banned, provide proof (video preferred)
Additional Comments:
Homebrew used: Edizon, Checkpoint, sys-clk, sys-FTPD (save backup/restoring/editing, Atmosphere cheats (offline only), overclocking)
No piracy, no nsp, no modding of files (except savegames).

Draxzelex · Jun 22, 2019

huma_dawii said:
Are the bans back?

The last reported ban I have was in May. This could be for multiple reasons. What it ultimately comes down to is either Nintendo has stopped banning people or no one is being banned anymore. These may sound similar but in actuality are two different scenarios. The first situation implies that you won't be banned for doing anything. The second implies that the actions people are currently taking will never lead to a ban. Now the only way to differentiate between the two is for some to do something that is considered "ban-worthy" which some people might consider installing a .NSP file or cheating in an online game. Problem is the fear of getting banned for these actions prevent anyone from testing that theory which results in us not being able to differentiate whether Nintendo is still banning people or if current actions are "safe".

huma_dawii · Jun 22, 2019

Draxzelex said:
The last reported ban I have was in May. This could be for multiple reasons. What it ultimately comes down to is either Nintendo has stopped banning people or no one is being banned anymore. These may sound similar but in actuality are two different scenarios. The first situation implies that you won't be banned for doing anything. The second implies that the actions people are currently taking will never lead to a ban. Now the only way to differentiate between the two is for some to do something that is considered "ban-worthy" which some people might consider installing a .NSP file or cheating in an online game. Problem is the fear of getting banned for these actions prevent anyone from testing that theory which results in us not being able to differentiate whether Nintendo is still banning people or if current actions are "safe".

Well my XCI only Switch is been safe since September 2018, I think Nintendo stopped banning people... and im too scared to test installing NSPs xDDDD

Draxzelex · Jun 22, 2019

huma_dawii said:
Well my XCI only Switch is been safe since September 2018, I think Nintendo stopped banning people... and im too scared to test installing NSPs xDDDD

See what I mean? No one takes the risk so we don't know if Nintendo is still banning people. Leads to a permanent cycle of no one testing if Nintendo still banning people and thus no one bothers trying.

BloodRose · Jun 25, 2019

Draxzelex said:
See what I mean? No one takes the risk so we don't know if Nintendo is still banning people. Leads to a permanent cycle of no one testing if Nintendo still banning people and thus no one bothers trying.

I think more likely is that the stealth features implemented in the current CFW versions are doing their jobs correctly. Either that or Nintendo have had to revisit their policies to avoid false positives.

If you think back to the 360 days, it wasn't user behavior that mostly changed in the later years. It was Commodore4Eva's ability to circumvent Microsoft's detection mechanisms.

DidCart · Jun 25, 2019

Hi guys...

Just to let you know that Nintendo IS banning people. I accidentally started the eShop while on CFW and got banned IMMEDIATELY.

Draxzelex · Jun 25, 2019

DidCart said:
Hi guys...

Just to let you know that Nintendo IS banning people. I accidentally started the eShop while on CFW and got banned IMMEDIATELY.

If you could fill out the report form in the first post, that would be great.

DiJornios · Jun 26, 2019

Immediately? That's crazy, I've browsed the eShop a couple of times with CFW and my Switch is still unbanned, as well as having multiple NSPs on the console

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