Not every Pokémon will be available in Pokémon Sword and Shield

AkitoUF · Jun 15, 2019

Lazy Freak never fails to disappoint.
And each Pokemon game will continue to be worse and have less content than the last one as long as you keep buying them.
And sadly Pokemon fans are the easiest to please and will swallo any shit with the Pokemon logo on it.

SG854 · Jun 15, 2019

WiikeyHacker said:
but unlike Pokemon which is aimed at "CHILRDEN" let me say that again CHILDREN aged from 6. I play games that actually require more thinking not just a rinse and repeat that has been going on for the past 20 plus years . Oooo throw a metal ball and enslave a animal to do more or less legal cock fighting. and fire emblem and dark souls aswell as age of empires are liteyears beter than a game that requires no skill to learn and is target for CHILDREN NOT ADULTS!

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last time i played was soul silver and then i gave up after realizing the game got stale. and stagnated only kept alive though the 30+ year old players that should be doing other things with there life and not waste it playing something their own kids could play. Oh who am I kidding those virgins would get laid unless it was pity sex and even then that would be pathetic. Even the Sims has more plot development than Pokemon.

IV’s, Ev’s, Nature, Item Holding, Physical Sweeper, Special Sweeper, Mixed Sweeper, Tank, Abilities, Type Coverage, Entry Hazards, Lead, Crippler, Physical Tank, Special Tank, Move Choice, Team Building to cover weaknesses......

WiikeyHacker · Jun 15, 2019

This is further proving my point on why this game is played by the wrong people. I couldn't care less about iv/evs or whatever i just play the game beat the then sell it. end of discussion.

00technocolor00 · Jun 15, 2019

'I- I dont feel so good...'

While I dont agree with this but I understand. I think a lot of pokemon esp from older games need some stat changes and givin good moves. Like Pelipper got. (Castform is one I think is particularly neat but isnt usable cus its so weak. Ive tried.) Theres limits to how much can fit on a switch cart. Maybe they can be part of an update later on :/

SG854 · Jun 15, 2019

WiikeyHacker said:
This is further proving my point on why this game is played by the wrong people. I couldn't care less about iv/evs or whatever i just play the game beat the then sell it. end of discussion.

Then don’t complain about the game battle system being too simplistic. And praise other games for having depth. Then when I give you reasons on how it can be more engaging you then back away and say I don’t care about any of that. So the Pokémon game is perfect for you right since it’s simplistic and you can play casually and never come back to it again.

codezer0 · Jun 15, 2019

the_randomizer said:
I'm sure it will. If people can program all 850+ pokemon into a game, have them all use dynamax, have them all perfectly balanced and all within the constraints of Switch hardware, please, by all means let me know.

Don't you just love double standards?

Game Freak is infamous for laziness. The core mechanics themselves haven't really changed since the original glitchy mess that was the Game Boy Gen 1 release. Never mind with Masuda as producer, pretty much means we're going to have some pretty esoteric requirements for some specific sub-quests. Forget Pokemon that only show up once a week, that dude would make the rumor mill that got people to try to glitch to the truck outside of the SS Anne's tile-set in Gen 1 look pedestrian. Or did everyone conveniently forget the asinine requirements listed to get to the Regi's in Or/As?

Dynamax can be done with a simple scaling operation on the models/etc, and then programming moves accordingly. Removing megas and z-moves for it? that is a load of horse. And I'm not referring to zebstrika here.

There is no need for them to "program" 800+ pokemon. The program just loads the model for the 'mon, lets you pick the attacks and keeps track of which moves it's able to learn naturally, via TM, tutor, egg move, so on.

Game Freak however, are infamous for taking lazy cop-outs. They get privy to the SDK's of new console and handheld hardware faster than anyone but Nintendo internally. Yet they can't be arsed to give full speed 3D mode on the 3DS, and cop out of it by simply disabling 3D support altogether in successive games. Sakurai of Smash had better looking models at a faster frame-rate and input lag even with 3D enabled. GF and everyone there have Minus Infinity excuses to validate this dick move on their part.

Something whatever · Jun 15, 2019

Well Pokemon is dead to me now. I'm sick of Gamefreak culling out GOOD and FUN features and either not replacign them with anything or their replacements being worse.

Yes lets remove this feature that lets some Pokemon be USABLE and get a cool new look and replace it with "Magic wand make my monster grow!" with no meaningful visual change or anything really interesting about it besides "Big monsters!"

On top of them now selectively deciding which of our Pokemon we've collected and trained over the years we're allowed to even bring to new games.

Like I'll still collect the cards and play the side games but I'm not support Lamefreak anymore.

Kurt91 · Jun 15, 2019

I really hope that they either overturn this decision and add everyone back in, or they have some way of letting us continue to use our collections.

I've been playing the series in order from the beginning, using emulation and some tools to import my team from one generation to the next, mainly so I could get around the Gen III disconnect. (Yeah, if you import a save file from Gen I and II into certain programs, they can convert the data into a working Gen III equivalent) I've just finished Emerald, and I have Colosseum, XD, and either Fire Red or Leaf Green as far as Gen III goes, to try and get as many of my missing spots filled in before starting Gen IV.

I know at this rate it's going to be quite a while before it affects me, but it's really going to suck when I eventually get to Sword/Shield and all of my collecting is for naught. I mean, yes, I can always just import my compatible ones only, but I'm still going to have several hundred Pokemon that I can't do anything with. I know that a lot of people were complaining about things like Sun/Moon making it too easy to over-level, but I was honestly figuring that it would be helpful in getting my low-level Pokemon caught up more easily.

If Pokemon Home ends up being a one-way trip and essentially a glorified trophy case, then I'm not really sure what the point is. If they were going to do this, they should have just gone with "full reboot" and just stuck with only the new ones. The only way that I can see them salvaging this without going back on what they've said would be if they actually go with the pseudo-MMO route and have some sort of central open-world game or something where the point is no longer transferring everything to each new game, but transferring the new teams from each new game into this central game, and having it updated accordingly each time.

I honestly wouldn't mind something like Pokemon Box/Bank/Home for free, and then a monthly subscription for an open-world expansion to give you something to do with the stored Pokemon. Hell, it doesn't even need to really be open-world. Make it something like an airport and let people travel to Let's Go-styled rebuilds of each Region. (Let's Go-styled meaning 3D versions, not catching/gameplay mechanics)

Xzi · Jun 15, 2019

WiikeyHacker said:
but unlike Pokemon which is aimed at "CHILRDEN" let me say that again CHILDREN aged from 6.

There are people who think all video games are for children, and you'd be hard pressed to change their minds. Besides, children are able to adapt to and overcome difficult games anyway. Dark Souls has nothing on Battletoads and The Lion King, which are the type of games I was powering through as kid. Hell, I probably had more patience for difficulty spikes back then than I do now.

Though I do agree that kids today are spoiled on creatively bankrupt garbage like Fortnite.

Memoir said:
To be fair, none of that is required to enjoy how casual Pokémon can be.

True, Pokemon is one of those franchises that's only as deep as you make it.

AlexMCS · Jun 15, 2019

High Level PvP Pokémon can be harder than any of the games WiikeyHacker mentioned, but for casual play, literally anyone can beat it.

Ericthegreat · Jun 15, 2019

pedro702 said:
there isnt a single hard pokemon game lol, sun and moon were probably the easiest ones ever where they basicaly explained every single step of the way to you, and then lets go was even easier, so yeah i doubt this game will be easier than sun/moon or pokemon lets go tbh.

Eh, I wouldn't say red/blue/yellow(green too I guess) are hard, but I would not say a kid could easily beat them, for casuals these days they would be too "hard".

Deleted User · Jun 15, 2019

AkitoUF said:
Lazy Freak never fails to disappoint.
And each Pokemon game will continue to be worse and have less content than the last one as long as you keep buying them.
And sadly Pokemon fans are the easiest to please and will swallo any shit with the Pokemon logo on it.

This is true, I sold some dead AA batteries for $20 once because they were Pikachu branded.

madmert9 · Jun 15, 2019

They didn't have to waste their time with something called "Dynamax".It was enough to adapt all of the pokemons to Switch from 3DS.They also say there are lots of pokemons and that's why they don't add all of them.I would rather playing with Sun & Moon Pokedex instead of new Pokemons.

KingVamp · Jun 15, 2019

They did all that work, only for a lot of people to prefer Megas and Z-moves anyway.

Xzi · Jun 15, 2019

KingVamp said:
They did all that work, only for a lot of people to prefer Megas and Z-moves anyway.

All they had to do was give a select number of new and old Pokemon armored evolutions, and import the rest as is. People would've been perfectly happy with that, even if mega evolutions and Z-moves were excluded. I have no idea where the hell the idea for Dynamax came from, it's like they spun a wheel or drew from a hat. "You know what the words 'sword' and 'shield' bring to mind? Godzilla!"

ertaboy356b · Jun 15, 2019

I hope they revise the EV IV system.

pedro702 · Jun 15, 2019

AlexMCS said:
Uh... no. I just finished Pokémon X main story last week having finished Ultra Sun and Sun an year ago.
Gen 6 was BY FAR the easiest, dullest and the emptiest, with the lame enemy team and your cheerleading rivals. I was more than 10 levels higher than anything the Elite Four had, with literally 0 grinding, and was usually overleveled for the whole game, even after switching like 5 pokes off the team for new, underleved ones (compared to the rest of the team), like my team was level 58-59 when I got the level 50 Xerneas. I still like it though, but it was definitely a huge step down from B2/W2.

Sun/Moon were instantly better for getting rid of HMs, having more of an impact in story and presentation, and a better enemy presence.
I had to have a HM Slave (Pangoro) for pretty much the whole X run.

Let's Go was just a nostalgia cash grab. Still fun, other than no random poke fights and that stupid aim to catch mechanic.

As for the "not all pokemon are available" controversy, I've always played like this, with each title being standalone, so it does nothing for me.
However, it is a huge blow to collectors/breeders/fanatics of the series, and I feel sorry for them.

What I do want from Nintendo (zero hopes in GameFreak doing it) is a Pokémon World game, encompassing all regions/mechanics.
But I doubt they will ever do it.

sun and moon are the worst pokemon games, just look online and you will find lots of people ha to force themselves to finish them, the evil team was so dumb lol and their base attack had zero wow factor i take gen 6 over any day.

for me its

gen2>gen1>gen4>gen5>gen6>gen3>gen7

yeah i wasnt a fan of 3 either, dont know why maybe because of the water routes and the backtracking? no idea even when i was a kid i was like meh gen 3.

RedBlueGreen · Jun 15, 2019

Good job Game Freak. It's not like they already have my animations and models for 800 Pokémon they could just reuse. They need to atop trying to reinvent the series because all they're doing is messing it up. Even Black and White which had no non-Unova Pokémon natively let you transfer the older ones.

Minox · Jun 15, 2019

The 2nd generation was when I last enjoyed Pkmn. Ever since it just feels like they're rehashing the same games with increasingly weird-looking pokefreaks.

WiikeyHacker · Jun 15, 2019

ok i agree with fortnite that game is casual cancer.

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