Hacking Noob question: Loadiine vs WUP install

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I just hacked my Wii U. It seems almost all back ups available are in Loadiine ready format. This isn't the way to go, though, is it? You can't install this format with WUPInstaller GX, right?
 
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And you can use NUSPacker to convert from extracted format (vulgarly called loadiine format) to the installable one, although the result will of course be unsigned and therefore require CFW to install and run
 

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Loadiine should be avoided, yes. You need games that are installable with WUP Installer.
I'm curious why you say Loadiine should be avoided. Most might argue that it's outdated or no longer the preferred method, but I think it has it's merits.
 

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I'm curious why you say Loadiine should be avoided. Most might argue that it's outdated or no longer the preferred method, but I think it has it's merits.
WUP installations allow one to play a game as if it had been installed over the eShop with no loss of functionality. Loadiine has issues with loading times, compatibility, lack of online play, etc.
 

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WUP installations allow one to play a game as if it had been installed over the eShop with no loss of functionality. Loadiine has issues with loading times, compatibility, lack of online play, etc.
Understandable. I've been out of the scene for a while and wasn't sure if there was something more sinister. I like the fact that you can have a self-contained ecosystem on your sd card with Loadiine. I just got my system out of storage, only to find that it's a brick. Any games/saves on the NAND/USB drive are lost for good, but I can just put my SD card into a new system and have all my Loadiine games/saves exactly how I left them. That's quite a big plus in my book.
 

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How did that happen?
I honestly have no idea. The system boots to the Wii U logo screen and then just sits there indefinitely. At first, I thought it might have been something stupid I did hacking wise, but I saw that the same thing happened to a few other people no one found an explanation. I noticed that other people also said that it happened after their system sat unused for a long time (mine was about 2 years) and I least one mentioned that theirs was a Nintendo refurb, which mine was as well. There were also people who said that their system was never hacked, so my best guess is that it is caused by some component failure that affects a small percentage of systems. It anybody's guess though. I just order a used system with a pro controller on ebay for $50. I'd like to fix my system just for the satisfaction of doing it, but I'm not sure if it's fixable and $50 is too cheap for me to waste more time on it. In this case, I'm glad that most of my games were Loadiine.
 

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I honestly have no idea. The system boots to the Wii U logo screen and then just sits there indefinitely. At first, I thought it might have been something stupid I did hacking wise, but I saw that the same thing happened to a few other people no one found an explanation. I noticed that other people also said that it happened after their system sat unused for a long time (mine was about 2 years) and I least one mentioned that theirs was a Nintendo refurb, which mine was as well. There were also people who said that their system was never hacked, so my best guess is that it is caused by some component failure that affects a small percentage of systems. It anybody's guess though. I just order a used system with a pro controller on ebay for $50. I'd like to fix my system just for the satisfaction of doing it, but I'm not sure if it's fixable and $50 is too cheap for me to waste more time on it. In this case, I'm glad that most of my games were Loadiine.
What all did you do "hacking wise"? The Wii U might be recoverable.
 

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First, Loadiine (obviously). I eventually did the "Brazilian method", which I think is Haxchi/WUP installer. I remember buying a DS game for Haxchi. I don't think I did cbhc, but I suppose it's possible that I did. One of the last things I remember doing on the system with formatting an external hard drive to use with the system. Just a few days before I got my system out of storage, I reformatted the external hard drive so I could use it to backup a laptop. I figured I wouldn't care about any of the games I might have on it. Then, when I couldn't get my system to boot, I thought that maybe I installed cbhc and then moved the DS game to the, now formatted, external hard drive. After reading up on it though, there are supposedly protections in place against moving the DS game. Then, after I read about about an unhacked system having the same issue, I figured that it was probably unrelated to hacks on the system. It's possible that I have a NAND backup on my PC somewhere. I don't specifically remember doing one, but if a guide explicitly told me to do it, I may have done one.
 

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First, Loadiine (obviously). I eventually did the "Brazilian method", which I think is Haxchi/WUP installer. I remember buying a DS game for Haxchi. I don't think I did cbhc, but I suppose it's possible that I did. One of the last things I remember doing on the system with formatting an external hard drive to use with the system. Just a few days before I got my system out of storage, I reformatted the external hard drive so I could use it to backup a laptop. I figured I wouldn't care about any of the games I might have on it. Then, when I couldn't get my system to boot, I thought that maybe I installed cbhc and then moved the DS game to the, now formatted, external hard drive. After reading up on it though, there are supposedly protections in place against moving the DS game. Then, after I read about about an unhacked system having the same issue, I figured that it was probably unrelated to hacks on the system. It's possible that I have a NAND backup on my PC somewhere. I don't specifically remember doing one, but if a guide explicitly told me to do it, I may have done one.
Did you check the WiiU clock battery?
 

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Uhhhgg Loadiine. I don't want to be the sadlad that tried to copy Breath of the Wild into his SD card only to take up to 3 hours to copy (too many small files that's my 1. Reason to hate Loadiine) and then boot up the game only to find out it's literally unplayable.
 

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I haven't, but I probably should. At this point, I got the used system that I ordered from ebay, so fixing the other one isn't something I want to invest much more time into.
Not booting up after a while is pretty normal with flash media. Sometimes it just takes a few power cycles and warming up the NAND for it to come back to life.

When you get around to it, try this: start it up and leave it plugged in for 5 minutes or so, turn it off and then try booting directly into the System Settings menu.
To boot directly to the System Settings menu, hold “A” “B” “D-pad Up” “Start” on the Wii U tablet and then press the power button.

From there you can try checking what data is on the system storage to figure ou twhat you did. If CBHC is not installed, then updating it would be perfectly safe, as would resetting the system to defaults. The Wii U does take a while to start if WiFi is enabled, so try deleting any saved network, just in case.
 

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