ROM Hack APM MHX/MHGen Save Editor

RinKisaragi · Apr 28, 2019

iSharingan said:
There was a way in Gen/X, but it doesn't work in GenU/XX. Forte-specific actions cheated onto cats would never be used by the AI anyway, making 99% of potential applications of the loophole pointless. 'Ideal' cheated Gen builds ultimately looked a lot like GenU/XX builds (without the increased memory slots or the new skills/actions) - since typically you could only fit and use 1 extra good skill/action, which became officially possible in GenU/XX via the second learn slot. My loopholed bomb cat in Gen only added Piercing rangs in addition to being taught Emergency Escape - which is legitimately possible in GenU via the second learn slot. Everything else I optimized on my cats was was possible legitimately by getting the right skill/action patterns. The only remaining way to 'cheat' cats that works across all games is to apply the DLC flag to a cat (add 80 to byte 0xE0 after the first letter in the cat's name - which also indicates whether the cat is selected as prowler) and switch the first "B" tier skill with a DLC skill.

Bombing was technically better than Assist for gauge gain in combat mainly due to EVERY action getting increased gauge when fighting a large monster (Assist only benefited from rangs) - at least in Gen. GenU reworked a fair bit of the gauge gain mechanics so only a few points actively stand out as better in specific cases on certain biases. Assist, Gathering, and Healing are technically better for elemental and status effects due to the motion values on the third boomerangs. Bombing gets an adept evade, though, letting you keep up your DPS without worrying about getting hit as much.

As a side note: Bombing also gets ridiculous gauge gain from successful hits with bombs in GenU/XX (it gave zero gauge on hit in Gen/X), so if you master the melee combo -> mini barrel bombay cancel (support actions can cancel the endlag of the combo finishers and mini barrel bombay is fast and lets you move again faster than even barrel bombay) you can potentially build gauge stupid fast and repeatedly nuke monsters with Giga Barrel bombays every 15-30ish seconds for insane flat damage, taking down G rank monsters faster than boomerang builds can. The adept evade implies this may well be an intended strategy for Bomb cats.

Thanks a lot for those info, @iSharingan
I've been trying to create a usable palico but to no avail as they all kinda end up with no action when enter quest so have been running the around with your ultimate bomb cat and have to say he's great. Was originally trying to see if I can abuse the skills using editor by giving them more than they could have equip normally in game like Crit L, Handicraft, Last Stand and so on guess that didn't go too well with the game check every quest. With that said, would you happen to have an Assist cat available since mainly I still run around and rang the monster more than I get close to them.

Yuusha-sama · Jun 12, 2019

@APM what should I do after dragging and dropping the .catz file on the palico checker tool?

Yuusha-sama · Jun 12, 2019

iSharingan said:
As promised: the save. Import using the Character Exporter over another character slot (be sure to copy over character data). Using a GC ID of 0 will not let your GC be sent/viewed, although no name can be fun (you're not announced entering/exiting online/local rooms or for actions like carting/etc. on a quest) but will likely get you kicked for hacking if the host cares.

Also note that while the Arena quests have been completed at S rank, the earring rewards have already been picked up (and were deleted with the rest of the equipment). Just manually add them if you need them after importing the rest of your armor/weapons.

I did hide a tiny 'marker' on the guild card. If you find it please leave it. I'm just curious to see if I bump into anyone using my save

my game crashes whenever I talk to the palico armory

Yuusha-sama · Jun 12, 2019

ukee said:
Can confirm they are 2 bytes, tested it and worked.

Also, here's a fixed armor equip ids.

how about the decoration values?

iSharingan · Jun 12, 2019

Yuusha-sama said:
my game crashes whenever I talk to the palico armory

this is most likely due to cats not having a weapon equipped/having a weapon equipped in an armor slot/having armor equipped in the weapon slot. If you imported cats, make sure you also duplicate your old palico weapons/armor box exactly. If that doesn't help, the safest action would be to just fire/delete all your cats, hire new ones in-game, then edit the new cats to match the ones you fired/deleted.

Yuusha-sama · Jun 22, 2019

@APM Mosgharl & Arc set(including high rank) are treated as if they don't exist if generated and can't be crafted in armory if used the "unlock all craftable armor"

Dynamite2boom · Jun 26, 2019

Hello, ive been trying to make a good bomb palico. It loads up fine --However, when ever I go into a hunt all its skills and move sets clears. It has nothing in hunting areas; i can go back and put them in however it clears as soon as i'm in a quest in both powler mode or hunter mode.

iSharingan · Jun 27, 2019

Dynamite2boom said:
whenever I go into a hunt all its skills and move sets clears.

Same as all the others that have this issue, the game detected your palico as illegal. Skills and support action have specific patterns they must follow on the Learned lists. You can't just slap any skills/support actions on the cat and expect it to work.

If you really want an illegal bomb cat that works, use the one I attached here. This is the optimal boomerang bomb cat designed for raw damage and abusing the bombing forte's increased gauge for all actions (bombs give no gauge, sadly, so the bonus is wasted...) while in combat with a large monster. For it's weapon, use the F Silverwind Star. Do NOT use armor or it loses the effect of World's Strongest. It is set to use the top left slot of page 1 of your palicos' equipment box when first imported to your game (will always be a weapon if you have at least 1 F Bone Wedge and sorted you palico box or left the starting weapon where it was, so it shouldn't crash your game after importing it unless the slot is empty), so just give it a new weapon when you're ready to use it.

Bonus points: this cat actually becomes perfectly legal in GenU if you transfer your save (thanks to an extra slot each to teach skills/support actions in GenU), so just replace World's Strongest (the skill got nerfed hard in GenU) with Weakness Exploit (a GenU-only event skill. You'll need the event cat or a hacked cat with the skill to teach it in-game) and once you unlock all the memory to use for equipping skills (should be at about level 80), set Earplugs, Weakness Exploit, Crit L, Crit S, and Boomerang Pro (not possible in Gen due to lower limits). Optionally, you can also replace Go-Fight-Win with the new Far-cat-ster at the dojo in GenU. The new weapon to use in GenU is the F Seregios Edge XR (reaches 80% affinity when Weakness Exploit activates, plus white sharpness and high raw resulting in a net damage that which can't be beat by any other elementless cat weapon) and you're free to use any armor you want since World's Strongest wont be used.

Ron1103 · Jul 17, 2019

Hey I’m not the smartest guy in the world and I don’t know these big technical words and codes and whatnot and I know it has been forever sense you made this save editor but does this use the proxy at all? That’s what I did in monster hunter ultimate

Wrathalos · Jul 18, 2019

Ron1103 said:
Hey I’m not the smartest guy in the world and I don’t know these big technical words and codes and whatnot and I know it has been forever since you made this save editor but does this use the proxy at all? That’s what I did in monster hunter ultimate

Barely coherent to me, but here goes nothing:

1) This doesn't use any sort of proxy, it's a save editor, you need to pull a save from your 3DS via homebrew.

2) There's several "ultimate" monster hunters, you need to specify MH3U, MH4U, MHGU.

3) Hi.

Ron1103 · Jul 19, 2019

Wrathalos said:
Barely coherent to me, but here goes nothing:

1) This doesn't use any sort of proxy, it's a save editor, you need to pull a save from your 3DS via homebrew.

2) There's several "ultimate" monster hunters, you need to specify MH3U, MH4U, MHGU.

3) Hi.

Oh ok thanks and yeah I’m going to have to figure out home brew to and it’s mh4u

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Wrathalos said:
Barely coherent to me, but here goes nothing:

1) This doesn't use any sort of proxy, it's a save editor, you need to pull a save from your 3DS via homebrew.

2) There's several "ultimate" monster hunters, you need to specify MH3U, MH4U, MHGU.

3) Hi.

Also is there a way I can use a proxy to hack it was like and editor but it used a proxy server?

Chow-Mein · Jul 19, 2019

Hi, all! Just save edited my file. Didn’t do anything crazy - unlocked hunter and palico armor, bunch of items in the item box, and customized some palicos. I hacked a fresh save file... HR1, 1 star Village (didn’t change these). The palicos are working fine in quest (no move/skill loss) but the palico armor is where I’m having trouble. I can view all craftable armor and weapons but it’s all greyed out. Take for instance the F Mizu Kasa armor, it’s listed but even though I traded for its scraps and I have all requirements, it’s still grayed out. What do I do?

And there’s a small issue with the hunter armor list as well. I have S. Magala parts in my item box but neither the Storge or Arc armor are listed.

Can anyone suggest a fix? Thanks!

To the devs: Awesome job!!!!

iSharingan · Jul 19, 2019

Chow-Mein said:
Hi, all! Just save edited my file. Didn’t do anything crazy - unlocked hunter and palico armor, bunch of items in the item box, and customized some palicos. I hacked a fresh save file... HR1, 1 star Village (didn’t change these). The palicos are working fine in quest (no move/skill loss) but the palico armor is where I’m having trouble. I can view all craftable armor and weapons but it’s all greyed out. Take for instance the F Mizu Kasa armor, it’s listed but even though I traded for its scraps and I have all requirements, it’s still grayed out. What do I do?

And there’s a small issue with the hunter armor list as well. I have S. Magala parts in my item box but neither the Storge or Arc armor are listed.

Can anyone suggest a fix? Thanks!

To the devs: Awesome job!!!!

As has been stated countless times, simply putting materials in you box isnt enough. Take them on a quest then redeposit them.

Chow-Mein · Jul 19, 2019

iSharingan said:
As has been stated countless times, simply putting materials in you box isnt enough. Take them on a quest then redeposit them.

I must have misunderstood bc I just put them in my pouch and redeposited before. Thank you, it works now!

Wrathalos · Jul 21, 2019

Ron1103 said:
Oh ok thanks and yeah I’m going to have to figure out home brew to and it’s mh4u

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Also is there a way I can use a proxy to hack it was like and editor but it used a proxy server?

No.

hunter24 · Jul 29, 2019

This may not be the right topic to talk about but here it is. Due to not having mhx, in order to perform a transfer from mhgen to mhx to mhxx. Would it be possible to have a .catzx file of your godcat in order to put it on mhxx, please @iSharingan

. If you have other palico says perfect and legal, I'm interested.

Shindouz · Aug 11, 2019

Hey guys I have a question. I imported all items with set quantity of 65 each and I tried crafting some weapons. The odd thing is some weapon like le desir I'm not able to upgrade it to the final form because the upgrade button is grey out despite I have all the materials and money require and also its not like I don't have space in my weapon inventory. However some weapons I'm able to upgrade to the final form. I believe there is no I need to clear a certain quest to be able to craft this weapon I basically just need to craft it. Please advise

iSharingan · Aug 11, 2019

Shindouz said:
Hey guys I have a question. I imported all items with set quantity of 65 each and I tried crafting some weapons. The odd thing is some weapon like le desir I'm not able to upgrade it to the final form because the upgrade button is grey out despite I have all the materials and money require and also its not like I don't have space in my weapon inventory. However some weapons I'm able to upgrade to the final form. I believe there is no I need to clear a certain quest to be able to craft this weapon I basically just need to craft it. Please advise

take the items on a quest. once you complete the quest, you can use the items you took with you when crafting.

iSharingan · Aug 19, 2019

Did some testing with .catz and .catzx files. You can convert .catz (Gen format) to .catzx (GenU) by adding "00 00 00 F1 FF" to the end of the .catz file (in a hex editor) and changing the extension. You lose the RNG pattern data and the cat's appearance when importing the edited file, but those can easily be set again in the GU editor. I'm pretty sure equipment data is also lost, so assign a loadout to any cats converted this way before viewing its summary or using it in-game to prevent game crashes.

You're welcome.

Important note: Double check your learned and equipped abilities and support actions on the cats, as I didn't test every possibility to make sure they transferred identically. Skills you cant edit in the GU editor shouldn't be affected - so primarily check any DLC skills. I'm fairly sure the IDs are the same for the old moves, but checking will only help in cases I'm wrong. If you're losing skills/support actions at quest start and you're sure the RNG values you set are correct, this one or more likely changed when 'converting'.

Echo7Solo · Aug 26, 2019

I'm considering starting MHGU all over (200+ hrs in) just so that I can get a particular talisman that is theoretically obtainable in MHGU. However, from what I've found online, the talisman I want is not obtainable in Generations, even though it's obtainable in MHGU from an Enduring Charm. It's a 3 slot talisman with Spirt +5 & Crit Boost +4. If I were to buy Generations and use this save editor and create such a talisman, would I be able to create such a talisman and transfer it along with the character to MHGU via the Generation/MHGU Transfer Tool in Nintendo's eShop? I know I've read of where people have somehow managed to transfer ridiculously OP talismans into MHGU, and I'm hoping that I can get a legit obtainable talisman in, that I'll probably never be able to obtain via charm farming.

I appreciate any help in advance!

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