Sony showcases loading times for their next generation hardware versus the PS4 Pro

wiewiec · May 21, 2019

I hope that i won't be same SSD crap as Apple use -> mobo soldered SSD

Ericthegreat · May 21, 2019

Bladexdsl said:
man i wish i could afford one of these...

Adata xpg, and (maybe Intel recently? I think the adata might be faster but the Intel has their ram boost or somthing so I'm not sure which is better) You can get for around $150 for 1tb. You gotta also have a motherboard that has a name slot though, be careful there are some nvme that are really just SATA drives that fit into nvme slots (the cheaper Samsung's ect) but for gaming alone the load times won't really change between a fast nvme vs a fast SSD. Nvme is mostly for video editing/other professional uses.

DeslotlCL · May 21, 2019

DiscostewSM said:
Rather deceptive to use a PS4 game to demonstrate fast loading on a PS5 when the real question is how fast a PS5 game will load on it.

finally someone not shitting crap for the sake of doing it that asks a real question.

graeme122 · May 21, 2019

"8k, oh you thought it was 8k gaming lmao, No no no it's photos in 8k. But thanks for the $500" - SIE

DinohScene · May 21, 2019

The only game I played on PS4 is Ni No Kuni II.

I'm kinda indifferent about the PS5.

smf · May 21, 2019

DiscostewSM said:
Rather deceptive to use a PS4 game to demonstrate fast loading on a PS5 when the real question is how fast a PS5 game will load on it.

A PS5 will load a PS5 game faster than a PS4 will load a PS5 game as well ;-)

DiscostewSM · May 22, 2019

smf said:
A PS5 will load a PS5 game faster than a PS4 will load a PS5 game as well ;-)

KazoWAR · May 22, 2019

tabzer said:
Except that when you put an SSD into a PS4, you don't see that dramatic of a "bump" (10x). The implication is that the entire build is catering to the potential of SSD.

The main problem is that the ps4 used usb for the eternal hdd. so even if you put in a ssd, your locked at usb speeds which is quite slow.

https://i.imgur.com/FXnyY4h.png

guily6669 · May 22, 2019

I think 3 USB 3.1 on the PS4 Pro are more than enough for anyone's in terms of data transfer speed... I think the majority will most likely be running like a 2 - 4 TB small 2.5 external HDD than like 500GB - 1 TB external SSD which were very damn expensive and only recently we can finally buy a 1TB SSD for a good price, they are already at around the 100€ range the cheapest ones (internal), but still you can also probably buy a 4TB external HDD for around the same price and I think most ppl would still go with a 4TB external HDD over a 1TB SSD for the PS4\PS4 Pro as external storage...

I dont even know where they got broadband name from, did they steal it from the broadband internet or something? (I wonder what broadband speeds are we talking here, 3G, 4G, 5G, 1gbps fiber optic? :rofl2:

) LOL

Also 8K = LOL, when the PS4 Pro the so called 4K barely has 4K games, only the Xbox One X really have a good number of true 4K games, but PS4 Pro only has very few...

Anyway I just hope they put something around 12Tflops of GPU power on it, if they go to like 8 or 9 will be kinda disappointing when a current Xone X already has around 6... And specially if they really want to have anything with anything that can even be called ray-tracing they really better be around 12Tflops or else the ray-tracing will be like poo which even at 12 won't be that amazing already...

In the PC world at least even though its a very different thing, anything below a RTX2080 for ray tracing is just mehhh when even RTX2080TI is kinda still poor for the price it costs, its good that Nvidia started trying bringing to gaming right now, but its just sadly not the right time for actual good ray-tracing in real time as it cost way too much for still quite poor results\performance, I guess for most its just better to let the computer ON all day, all night 24/7 rendering a small scene with ray tracing in super high real life like quality, because sadly in real-time is still not quite there...

YugamiSekai · May 22, 2019

PS5 not releasing until at least 3 years from now? This gives Nintendo enough time for a perfect Switch Pro release

tabzer · May 22, 2019

KazoWAR said:
The main problem is that the ps4 used usb for the eternal hdd. so even if you put in a ssd, your locked at usb speeds which is quite slow.

https://i.imgur.com/FXnyY4h.png

Yes. PS4 didn't cater to SSD speeds. The speed of a SSD was bottlenecked by the PS4 hardware. People like @Xzi are being disingenuous by suggesting that an SSD is the primary component that makes the next gen demo fast. SSD seems to become the bottleneck, which is why Sony customized a faster type of SSD. That's the impression I get

Xzi · May 22, 2019

tabzer said:
Yes. PS4 didn't cater to SSD speeds. The speed of a SSD was bottlenecked by the PS4 hardware. People like @Xzi are being disingenuous by suggesting that an SSD is the primary component that makes the next gen demo fast. SSD seems to become the bottleneck, which is why Sony customized a faster type of SSD. That's the impression I get

Are people really unaware that you can get half-second load times in a lot of games on PC already? It's not uncommon or something Sony just now invented.

tabzer · May 22, 2019

Xzi said:
Are people really unaware that you can get half-second load times in a lot of games on PC already? It's not uncommon or something Sony just now invented.

The insinuation there is that,"people buy consoles because they outperform PCs."

That's funny. While it's possible that Sony's new SDD might outperform current SSDs on the market (not by much, nor for long), I don't think the gravitas in console marketing has been in out-performing PC benchmarks. If that's the reason consoles exist, they'd be dead by the time they actually hit the market.

smf · May 22, 2019

guily6669 said:
I dont even know where they got broadband name from, did they steal it from the broadband internet or something?

No, people are dumb and use words incorrectly.

broadband: a high-capacity transmission technique using a wide range of frequencies, which enables a large number of messages to be communicated simultaneously.

I don't know whether their SSD is using broadband, but then I don't know whether your "broadband" is using broadband either.

We use words wrong all the time. All vacuum cleaners are hoovers, you put food in a microwave. etc

Xzi · May 22, 2019

tabzer said:
The insinuation there is that,"people buy consoles because they outperform PCs."

The only people who implied that PS5 could outperform PCs were Sony and you.

tabzer · May 22, 2019

Xzi said:
The only people who implied that PS5 could outperform PCs were Sony and you.

No I didn't, and I don't exactly see where Sony said that, other than about their "broadband SSD". Being stupid doesn't help anybody.

Xzi · May 22, 2019

tabzer said:
No I didn't, and I don't exactly see where Sony said that, other than about their "broadband SSD". Being stupid doesn't help anybody.

'8K' and 'ray-tracing' imply that. Especially without asterisks next to both. Being stupid indeed helps nobody, which is why Sony shouldn't be stupid about their marketing. People would be happy just to hear '60 FPS,' myself included.

tabzer · May 22, 2019

Xzi said:
'8K' and 'ray-tracing' imply that. Especially without asterisks next to both.

No they don't. The demo compared their development to PS4. You want to suggest that for successful marketing that they would emphasize their inadequacies and glorify PCMR? I don't think so, bud.

Xzi · May 22, 2019

tabzer said:
No they don't. The demo compared their development to PS4. You want to suggest that for successful marketing that they would emphasize their inadequacies and glorify PCMR? I don't think so, bud.

IDGAF what you compare it to, a console isn't running 8K and/or ray-tracing without A: being ~$2000 at launch, or B: they're fucking lying and it's going to be 4K@30 FPS upscaled at best. I don't expect it to be as strong as my gaming PC, but that doesn't mean Sony needs to exaggerate. As I said, I think more people would be happy just to hear '1080p@60 FPS support' because that's all I want for features after both PS4 and PS4 Pro failed to deliver on it.

Dominator211 · May 22, 2019

Let’s see if all of these features can go off without a hitch

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