Do you support marijuana legalization?

Mythical · May 11, 2019

dude1 said:
personally i'm against most if not all drug laws, if you commit a crime high that crime is already illegal we should charge you with that crime period.
increased likelihood's just means that past "sober you" made a informed choice before getting high and should deal with the consequences.

its the same reason im against other laws including but not limited too hate crimes to speeding tickets.

increasing severity of punishment because someone/something says you might do something illegal more often, shouldn't change the punishment for that crime, if i commit one act of murder high i should face murder charges sober or high equally

if people argue the mental state gets altered thus they should be illegal then be consistent in your views outlaw many over the counter drugs and all alcohol.

the hypocrisy of these laws piss me off the most.

I'm unaware of any times where "I was high officer" was ever a legal excuse other than non consenting usage of whatever got you high was ever used in.
From my understanding if say you smoked a fattie, then robbed a bank, then got caught; They wouldn't just drop or reduce your charges/sentencing just because your were high

^ Also pushing your smoke/smell on people isn't conducive to any specific type of smoker. It's just an inconsiderate thing to do

Carlos_DobleC · May 11, 2019

I am a habitual marijuana consumer (I smoke at least 1g a day) for 1 year and a little.
In this time I've become a more open-minded, more affectionate, less confrontational person and have experienced great stories with my friends.
On the other hand I drank alcohol partying for 4 or 5 years, I never saw anything beneficial outside of that environment.
Clearly marijuana should be legal and alcohol not.
Of the tobacco I don't give opinion because at least the people who consume it don't bother the rest.

EmanueleBGN said:
Indeed: caffeine can be addictive. But its addiction don't burn your brain because it's only a physical addiction. Smoke too: it destroy your lungs but not your brain.
I don't drink coffee, alcoholic drinks nor I smoke.

Do you at least fuck? Or that either?

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Lacius · May 11, 2019

For one to be consistent, there are only two possible positions:

Marijuana should be legal, and alcohol should be legal.
Marijuana should be illegal, and alcohol should be illegal.

The science is clear that alcohol is more harmful and more addictive than marijuana. Also, much of the history behind marijuana laws is racist.

_abysswalker_ · May 11, 2019

EmanueleBGN said:
No, I'm acting like marijuana is a drug

This is hardly an argument. You don't have experience of what you're condemning, that much is clear.

Benja81 · May 11, 2019

Here is the feeling I get. Some people are screaming out, Marijuana makes me happy/cures my medical condition!!

The detractors: But there is some off chance and outdated stereotype that it could effect you or me in some way!! Since I'm so afraid of it I will ignore other's (more experienced) opinions, and stick close to my misconceptions and prejudiced. After all big government says its bad!!!

GhostLatte · May 11, 2019

Maluma said:
It should be illegal because a large amount of people are too slow to know what is best for their lives.We shouldn't help people self destruct if it can be prevented.

You must believe alcohol should be illegal then.

zomborg · May 11, 2019

Subtle Demise said:
Nicotene is a CNS stimulant and euphoriant. You think people smoke because they enjoy birning their lungs with burning paper and plant matter.

Never thought of it like that. When you put it that way it makes sense

Deleted-401606 · May 11, 2019

Benja81 said:
Here is the feeling I get. Some people are screaming out, Marijuana makes me happy/cures my medical condition!!

The detractors: But there is some off chance and outdated stereotype that it could effect you or me in some way!! Since I'm so afraid of it I will ignore other's (more experienced) opinions, and stick close to my misconceptions and prejudiced. After all big government says its bad!!!

No it's more like people are dependent on a drug to deal with their poor quality of life and they don't have the mental fortitude to at least admit to themselves that they are dependent on a substance to deal with their problems.If you are going to smoke marijuana,at least own up to it instead of pretending you are doing something healthy.

Benja81 · May 11, 2019

Maluma said:
No it's more like people are dependent on a drug to deal with their poor quality of life and they don't have the mental fortitude to at least admit to themselves that they are dependent on a substance to deal with their problems.If you are going to smoke marijuana,at least own up to it instead of pretending you are doing something healthy.

So I'm supposed to be ashamed of or call it unhealthy for using a medication to improve my quality of life? So that you will think better of me or something. Sounds like you are the one with a false sense of reality.

FAST6191 · May 12, 2019

Maluma said:
No it's more like people are dependent on a drug to deal with their poor quality of life and they don't have the mental fortitude to at least admit to themselves that they are dependent on a substance to deal with their problems.If you are going to smoke marijuana,at least own up to it instead of pretending you are doing something healthy.

What if they are instead doing something unhealthy, or at least of dubious or negligible health benefits, to have a good time?

There are doubtless those that indulge to escape from reality* but it need not be all of them. For some people getting a bit further from their mind, breaking a cycle or similar can be a wonderful thing.

*I think it was Doug Stanhope that had the skit about good drugs and bad drugs, the idea being good drugs make a good time better but little for bad times (dropping acid because your girlfriend left is probably not going to do much other than increase chances of a bad trip), bad drugs make a bad time seem better but in reality don't (this is your cocaine, speed, alcohol... sort of thing). Weed probably would be a good time one but not as much as some things.

The legislation question coming in as a balance of risks, rewards and what ideals society cares to promote or hold dearest. At this point in history many then wondering if things maybe went a bit too far for whatever reason and seeking to bring it into line with newer ideas, or older ideas in the case of personal liberty.

Pleng · May 12, 2019

Maluma said:
Smoking weed isn't good for you.Once you mature you will realize this is a simple fact of life.If you want to believe otherwise,go ahead.If you want to get high everyday and believe it is improving your life,knock yourself right out.

There's a middle ground between "not smoking weed" and "get[ting] high every day". I think you'll find that the majority of people actually /are/ able to find that middle ground. And those that aren't are just going to end up finding something else to abuse if weed isn't available.

GhostLatte · May 12, 2019

Pleng said:
There's a middle ground between "not smoking weed" and "get[ting] high every day". I think you'll find that the majority of people actually /are/ able to find that middle ground. And those that aren't are just going to end up finding something else to abuse if weed isn't available.

Exactly! I enjoy smoking a bowl or two with friends or by myself, but it's not something I do everyday or feel the urge to do everyday.

_abysswalker_ · May 12, 2019

Maluma said:
No it's more like people are dependent on a drug to deal with their poor quality of life and they don't have the mental fortitude to at least admit to themselves that they are dependent on a substance to deal with their problems.If you are going to smoke marijuana,at least own up to it instead of pretending you are doing something healthy.

That's a lot of assumptions to make; I hope I fit your profound stereotype and lead a poor life cause my mental fortitude, unlike yours, must be non-existent. Replace "drug" in your first sentence with all the unhealthy habits people do when they have problems and you got yourself a world of pretenders.

So what's my punishment for vaping sir? Is it good enough to admit it to myself? own it up to you and your peers? or would you feel safer if the state punished me for my crime?

Admittedly the world would be much simpler if we could tag everything as black and white. Sadly your mental fortitude also blinds you from the whole spectrum in between. So please, I implore you to take a step back and comprehend how many people you're condemning with that statement.

Ericthegreat · May 12, 2019

GhostLatte said:
I totally do, but I'm curious what you guys think. Let's debate!

I do, support it (it's legal where I live), but I don't like how since it's been legal people think it's fine for younger people/kids to do it too, so far study's have shown that marijuana is harmful for the brain, always if used too often, but especially harmful to children/those under 25 as the brain hasn't fully matured yet, and it could possibly stunt brain growth, now for adults and kids yes alchohol is just as bad if you an alcoholic, but I'd like to know how much marijuana does it take to hard a child/young adult, I'm sure used sparingly it's probably fine, so if your underage and smoked a few times don't become paranoid, but still it is a topic I see ignored, and more and more people just push how natural and non damaging it is, where I live, so much so that they had to start putting up billboards and signs to explain that even though it's natural it is not for pregnant women. This is in no way a anti marijuana argument, just that people need to be more well informed that it isn't perfectly safe for everyone. (Just like alchohol, but possibly to a much higher extent, we don't really know, just most modern studies just show BAD, and no I'm not going by past studies that were done falsly to prove it was bad, go look them up yourselves though because I'm too lazy)

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Xzi said:
Fact check: CBD containing below 0.1% THC has never been on the list of scheduled substances.

As far as I know CBD is fine, but did you know more and more low quality CBD contains higher amounts of thc, and I'm starting to wonder if it's done on purpose because of some states allowing the sale of CBD but not marijuana. CBD is looking to me as possibly a great medicine for a lot of people(especially arthritis sufferers), I'm sure some major studies will conclude soon.

Deleted-401606 · May 12, 2019

splymb said:
That's a lot of assumptions to make; I hope I fit your profound stereotype and lead a poor life cause my mental fortitude, unlike yours, must be non-existent. Replace "drug" in your first sentence with all the unhealthy habits people do when they have problems and you got yourself a world of pretenders.

So what's my punishment for vaping sir? Is it good enough to admit it to myself? own it up to you and your peers? or would you feel safer if the state punished me for my crime?

Admittedly the world would be much simpler if we could tag everything as black and white. Sadly your mental fortitude also blinds you from the whole spectrum in between. So please, I implore you to take a step back and comprehend how many people you're condemning with that statement.

ok

_abysswalker_ · May 12, 2019

^ Thank you

Deleted-401606 · May 12, 2019

You can't tell someone something that they don't want to hear.

WD_GASTER2 · May 13, 2019

funny how very few people mention that it usually is not an issue of what it is that you are consuming but more if you have an "addictive" personality.
The inconvenient truth is that being addicted to MJ is no different than being addicted to alcohol. If you have an addiction problem it has to do quite a bit more with your own personality than you think. Even after kicking it as a "habit" humans can easily substitute that addiction for something else (gambling, sex, alchohol, anything that triggers the part of the brain that feels rewarded)

I personally dont use it, but I have seen it do wonders for people in chronic pain. I am all for people using it since there are far far far worse things that people could be doing.

live and let live and all that jazz

FAST6191 · May 13, 2019

WD_GASTER2 said:
The inconvenient truth is that being addicted to MJ is no different than being addicted to alcohol.

While I would agree personality and possibly some genetic factors come into play at a level greater than most imagine (it going both ways -- heroin use in vietnam among US military types being a fun one there) I do have to pull you up on that one -- stopping alcohol cold turkey at the higher levels of consumption commonly leads to serious medical side effects, up to and including death, such that things want to be managed properly here. Do a search for alcohol withdrawal protocol and alcohol withdrawal syndrome and any number of good sources will come back to you here. Same for a lot of opiates. Weed not so much. By all means get a proper medic in that knows what they are doing and the outcomes will likely be quicker, better, more reliable as far as working first time and all that good stuff.

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