Hacking my DS Mode is Still bricked!

MDashK · May 7, 2019

CodyWGamer said:
same here lol, so back to the TwlightMenu, so u said ur ds bricked during the setup how is that?

Well, more or less... I found out it had DS mode bricked when I went to try to install TWiLight menu...
But I wasn't even able to run it 1 time or anything...
If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't even find the issue...

CodyWGamer · May 7, 2019

so u TRIED to install it so did u get installed?

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and now im just having a huge flashback on that app and i think that is the reason

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also keep in mind im just trying to see what the hell is wrong with our ds modes and why they dont work... so i cant help solve the problem

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and if there WAS a solution then this thread wouldnt even exist XD

MDashK · May 7, 2019

CodyWGamer said:
so u TRIED to install it so did u get installed?
and now im just having a huge flashback on that app and i think that is the reason
also keep in mind im just trying to see what the hell is wrong with our ds modes and why they dont work... so i cant help solve the problem
and if there WAS a solution then this thread wouldnt even exist XD

Well, I managed to install the CIAs and run the TWiLight updater, after that, when I went to enter the main app to select the 3DS model, etc etc, that's when I found out the issue... I'm assuming the updater uses 3DS mode and not DS mode, since it works...

CodyWGamer · May 7, 2019

i mean if it doesnt immediately go to sleep mode and the whole top screen is filled then yes it uses 3ds mode

MDashK · May 7, 2019

CodyWGamer said:
i mean if it doesnt immediately go to sleep mode and the whole top screen is filled then yes it uses 3ds mode

Question: have you, by chance, tried to perform a full factory reset to the system to check if it fixes the issue?

CodyWGamer · May 7, 2019

no and how could i do that lol

MDashK · May 7, 2019

CodyWGamer said:
no and how could i do that lol

I think I phrase it wrong. It's the system format option. xD

KleinesSinchen · May 7, 2019

MDashK said:
If my information is correct, then yes.
AFAIK, ntrboot uses DS mode.
Hmm.... Now that I think about it... If I was able to enter that DS mode at boot to install CFW... Something along the installation got f*d up, somehow...

Two different things.

"DS(i) mode" = rebooting into TWL_FIRM
"ntrboot" = launching software from an ntr(DS) cartridge instead of normal boot

For whatever reason the DS(i) mode fails on your devices: TWL_FIRM is not loaded when installing CFW with a flashcart. The software on the NAND is completely ignored.

3dbrew.org/wiki/Bootloader said:
Additionally, if the shell is closed and a special key combination (Start + Select + X) is held, boot9 will attempt to boot from an inserted NTR cartridge before booting from NAND.

@CodyWGamer You never mentioned problems with your camera before…
I wonder if there is a connection between those two problems. A faulty camera can cause other "funny" issues; at least on the N3DSXL (black screens in normal mode, but working recovery mode).

GothicIII · May 7, 2019

This is quite an interesting read.

@CodyWGamer
I'm not sure if it would help, but I have xorpads and a few firmware dumps of an o3ds lying around. I could check (pm me) what kind of files and/or partitions are missing, corrupted or damaged in any way.
If this would return zero problems then this would be an indicator for a hardware problem.
I'm pretty skilled with that kind of stuff I did manual system transfers multiple times already.

MDashK · May 7, 2019

GothicIII said:
This is quite an interesting read.

@CodyWGamer
I'm not sure if it would help, but I have xorpads and a few firmware dumps of an o3ds lying around. I could check (pm me) what kind of files and/or partitions are missing, corrupted or damaged in any way.
If this would return zero problems then this would be an indicator for a hardware problem.
I'm pretty skilled with that kind of stuff I did manual system transfers multiple times already.

What would you need? xD
Just a NAND dump or some more specific files?

GothicIII · May 7, 2019

MDashK said:
What would you need? xD
Just a NAND dump or some more specific files?

Either the decrypted nand dump or nand dump and xorpads.

MDashK · May 7, 2019

GothicIII said:
Either the decrypted nand dump or nand dump and xorpads.

Can GodMode9 create the decrypted NAND easily?
Is there a way to make it fast 'n' easy? xD (for example, can I use this? https://gbatemp.net/threads/extract...nd-backups-and-sd-contents-with-ninfs.499994/)

CodyWGamer · May 8, 2019

KleinesSinchen said:
Two different things.

"DS(i) mode" = rebooting into TWL_FIRM
"ntrboot" = launching software from an ntr(DS) cartridge instead of normal boot

For whatever reason the DS(i) mode fails on your devices: TWL_FIRM is not loaded when installing CFW with a flashcart. The software on the NAND is completely ignored.

@CodyWGamer You never mentioned problems with your camera before…
I wonder if there is a connection between those two problems. A faulty camera can cause other "funny" issues; at least on the N3DSXL (black screens in normal mode, but working recovery mode).

i never mentioned the camera app being broken because it wasn't that important to me

MDashK · May 8, 2019

Just tried this fix: https://gbatemp.net/threads/restore-sysnand-twlp-and-twln.482834/#post-7555009
No luck. DS mode still broken, even using NAND from a good 3DS doner... =\

TurdPooCharger · May 8, 2019

MDashK said:
Just tried this fix: https://gbatemp.net/threads/restore-sysnand-twlp-and-twln.482834/#post-7555009
No luck. DS mode still broken, even using NAND from a good 3DS doner... =\

Turn on the 3DS and hold (SELECT) button to boot Luma3DS v9.1 configuration.
DS(i) mode does not work with EmuNAND. Ensure that your setup isn't using EmuNAND like this:

( ) Autoboot EmuNAND
(x) Show NAND or user string in System Settings

Go in System Settings and look for Sys 11.9.0-42E.

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Go to FBI → Titles.

If you're on 3DS firmware 11.9.0-42E and depending on old or new series (2/3)DS, the latest TWL_FIRM is:

0004013800000102
- Old_3DS TWL_FIRM
- Version: 10864 (10.39.0)
- Product Code: CTR-P-CTAP
0004013820000102
- New_3DS TWL_FIRM
- Version: 10962 (10.45.2)
- Product Code: CTR-P-CTAP

The other four (4) TWL system titles.

00048005484E4441
- DS Download Play
- Version: 1024 (1.0.0)
- Product Code: dlplay
0004800542383841
- Nintendo DSi™
- Version: 2048 (2.0.0)
- Product Code: DS INTERNET
0004800F484E4841
- Nintendo DS Cart Whitelist
- Version: 11264 (11.0.0)
- Product Code: <blank>
0004800F484E4C41
- TWL Version Data
- Version: 0 (0.0.0)
- Product Code: <blank>

CodyWGamer · May 8, 2019

TurdPooCharger said:
Turn on the 3DS and hold (SELECT) button to boot Luma3DS v9.1 configuration.
DS(i) mode does not work with EmuNAND. Ensure that your setup isn't using EmuNAND like this:

( ) Autoboot EmuNAND

(x) Show NAND or user string in System Settings

Go in System Settings and look for Sys 11.9.0-42E.

***

Go to FBI → Titles.

If you're on 3DS firmware 11.9.0-42E and depending on old or new series (2/3)DS, the latest TWL_FIRM is:

0004013800000102

Old_3DS TWL_FIRM

Version: 10864 (10.39.0)

Product Code: CTR-P-CTAP

0004013820000102

New_3DS TWL_FIRM

Version: 10962 (10.45.2)

Product Code: CTR-P-CTAP

The other four (4) TWL system titles.

00048005484E4441

DS Download Play

Version: 1024 (1.0.0)

Product Code: dlplay

0004800542383841

Nintendo DSi™

Version: 2048 (2.0.0)

Product Code: DS INTERNET

0004800F484E4841

Nintendo DS Cart Whitelist

Version: 11264 (11.0.0)

Product Code: <blank>

0004800F484E4C41

TWL Version Data

Version: 0 (0.0.0)

Product Code: <blank>

there's the man himself

MDashK · May 8, 2019

The system does not have emunand. autoboot setting is not enabled.
Title information is correct according to the post.

CodyWGamer · May 8, 2019

no it's not that it's if you have autoboot emunand checked just uncheck it

TurdPooCharger · May 8, 2019

MDashK said:
The system does not have emunand. autoboot setting is not enabled.
Title information is correct according to the post.

You're the third person who has a broken DS(i) mode like this despite:

not using EmuNAND
have all updated TWL system titles
tried CTRTransfer
tried TWLTransfer (per AnalogMan's gm9 script)
- CodyWGamer has does something similiar using verified good twlmbr.bin, twln.bin, and twlp.bin partitions.
used NVRAM unbricker
cleared HOME Menu extdata

The other person had a strangely broken touchscreen despite it perfectly working in 3DS mode.

Since we have nothing else to go by from a software standpoint, I would have to agree with @KleinesSinchen that the issue stems with something wrong at the hardware level.
Not directly related to broken DS(i) mode, but read here how a non-functioning camera can cause a 3DS system to partially not work with BSoD brick.

New 3DS XL Screens only display recovery mode

The 3DS systems don't have fail safes and will act erratically if any the daughter/accessory components are not properly communicating with the motherboard.

Because both Cody and you state that your 3DS cameras aren't working correctly, we can only guess this part somehow interferes with DS(i) mode.
Maybe booting to TWL_FIRM fails to call/handshake with camera, so it panics and boots back to HOME Menu.

The only way to test or rule out the camera would to be fix/replace it. That repair task is extremely difficulty due to the hinge often breaking the top LCD, speaker + volume, and camera flex cables..

MDashK · May 8, 2019

TurdPooCharger said:
The only way to test or rule out the camera would to be fix/replace it. That repair task is extremely difficulty due to the hinge often breaking the top LCD, speaker + volume, and camera flex cables..

If that's the case, then it's not worth the effort...
I'll just tell him to use his old DS Lite to play DS games and leave it has is.

Hacking my DS Mode is Still bricked!

are you having the same problem?

Yes

No

yes but it's fixed

no i have a different ds mode problem...

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