Team behind Sonic movie to “fix” character design following negative reception

Ev1l0rd · May 3, 2019

The only real way to fix that abomination is with napalm and fire.

Jokes aside, this probably won't be too hard to fix.

iirc in a making of of a different movie, they explained that for 3D model characters in movies like these, on set they use iron balls instead of the actual character so that the actors can still have an idea what to interact with. Then later, during the special effects phase, they edit the 3D model over the iron balls.

So it'd basically be swapping out the 3D model with a better one and that's it.

FAST6191 · May 3, 2019

Ev1l0rd said:
The only real way to fix that abomination is with napalm and fire.

Jokes aside, this probably won't be too hard to fix.

iirc in a making of of a different movie, they explained that for 3D model characters in movies like these, on set they use iron balls instead of the actual character so that the actors can still have an idea what to interact with. Then later, during the special effects phase, they edit the 3D model over the iron balls.

So it'd basically be swapping out the 3D model with a better one and that's it.

It depends how much they want to change.

It is not just the model but the eye animations as well that would need to be changed if the sizes are going to be different, lip syncing possibly (I don't know what they have here for automated stuff these days).

If they are going to have to change the height/proportions as well then they might have to build an offsets model into it too -- make something taller with animated arms and unless you want to have it look like they are covering for sweaty pits by just moving at the elbows then you have to figure out how that changes. That also says nothing about the time paused rockets scene if they change the height there, or some of the blocking as a result...

If they are going to sort the colours then they will want to change the shader model a bit and that is fairly doable (colour correction being all but mandatory today in films and this falling more or less with that).

Granted the effort shown for Sonic in the pickup truck scene was anything to go by then they made fairly minimal efforts with a lot of things.

If it is just a space ship flying through space it is one thing. Something interacting with "real world" objects is a whole different game*.

*marginally relevant

DAZA · May 3, 2019

Ouch.. thats going to financially hurt graphically changing so many scenes with him in. that will hurt in the long run and be lucky if they make a profit from the film!

Always a big risk when taking on a franchise from game to movie, i hate to say this but id rather they use the shell / likeness of sonic from adventure or boom over what they have atm

Grmmish · May 3, 2019

Wait...... Production on the movie already finished. :wtf:

How could they redo Sonic himself if he is already in the footage without.. Deleting the footage, basically making the movie again? ?_? (Scenes with him in it at least.)
..... AND in the span of 6 months. XDD?????

Also. I think everythign about the trailer was great OTHER THAN Sonic. In fact, THE FACT it's a Sonic movie is the problem. But Jim was great and everything else was great.... I just hope Jim wasn't... Acting as Eggman because... That is NOT Eggman... XD
Either way, the way Sonic acts, looks and sound is bad. If they removed Sonic and changed the names and maybe made Sonic a super fast..... Robot toy thing from space? Then it would serve as a legitimate movie.

Deleted member 487613 · May 3, 2019

I doubt they will re-do all the CGI they have.

Teletron1 · May 3, 2019

Well this is somewhat positive and also strange to learn the team behind this was Marza aka Sega V.A just makes you wonder if they were just trying too hard to compete with Detective Pikachu which the premiere in NY has people saying it is awesome .. Funny thing my 6-year-old was like dad I want to see the Sonic movie but Sonic looks weird :rofl2:

hopefully this does well for Sega because they are hanging on by threads now

also learned "Gagsters Paradise" was supposed to be an easter egg it was the 1st song on a Sonic music disc, wonder how many copies were sold because no one got that :wacko:

Eggman doesn't stay that way in the movie for those who also are wondering why he looks that way :rolleyes:

FAST6191 · May 3, 2019

Grmmish said:
Wait...... Production on the movie already finished. How could they redo Sonic himself if he is already in the footage without.. Deleting the footage, basically making the movie again? ?_? (Scenes with him in it at least.)
..... AND in the span of 6 months. XDD?????

Also. I think everythign about the trailer was great OTHER THAN Sonic. In fact, THE FACT it's a Sonic movie is the problem. But Jim was great and everything else was great.... I just hope Jim wasn't... Acting as Eggman because... That is NOT Eggman... XD
Either way, the way Sonic acts, looks and sound is bad. If they removed Sonic and changed the names and maybe made Sonic a super fast..... Robot toy thing from space? Then it would serve as a legitimate movie.

As was mentioned above Sonic was most likely done via 3d modelling. You have something on set for the actors to look at and interact with (see the video above for some other films, and some oddities that result).

If you are making a 3d model dance to an existing pattern then you can replace said model.

Very basic version thereof

Here is a space scene, red dots represent the location I want for each segment. In a computer model they would note the locations, indeed to make this I had a path I duplicated between the background.

I can put the battlestar galactica

I can put megamaid from spaceballs in there

Or I can put a space velociraptor in there with very minimal effort

Dr.Hacknik · May 3, 2019

Ahem

Just use this

eyeliner · May 3, 2019

Dr.Hacknik said:
Ahem

Snip

Just use this

This could work, but the voice would have to change to something more "arrogant"

DinohScene · May 3, 2019

That... thing.. still sends shivers down me spine.

lexarvn · May 3, 2019

MintTears said:
More like they based movie Sonic off Sanic.

It sure looks like it

Grmmish · May 3, 2019

FAST6191 said:
As was mentioned above Sonic was most likely done via 3d modelling. You have something on set for the actors to look at and interact with (see the video above for some other films, and some oddities that result).

If you are making a 3d model dance to an existing pattern then you can replace said model.

Very basic version thereof

Here is a space scene, red dots represent the location I want for each segment. In a computer model they would note the locations, indeed to make this I had a path I duplicated between the background.

View attachment 165818

I can put the battlestar galactica
View attachment 165821

I can put megamaid from spaceballs in there
View attachment 165820

Or I can put a space velociraptor in there with very minimal effort
View attachment 165819

I appreciate the effort. LOL BUT I do indeed know how it can be done. But, despite how simple some things are, it is just hard to believe they would do that within 6 months really quickly because companies simply do not. :S

Rabbid4240 · May 3, 2019

They're prolly gonna make him a penguin or something

Xabring · May 3, 2019

welp, they better take their sweet time or they gonna rush the design.....6 months for a redesigned character on CGI? hmm...at least is not an ENTIRE movie out of it.

reddragon105 · May 3, 2019

Great news. I mean I was looking forward to all the amazing memes and the fun we were going to have ripping this movie to shreds, but I'm sure that's still going to happen and Trailer Sonic will forever be immortalised in what we have so far.

chrisrlink · May 3, 2019

and for once they listen but i wouldn't put those pitchforks and torches away just yet I wonder if the director is even a fan of sonic that DB movie the director hated the series iirc

Bladexdsl · May 3, 2019

even wreck it Ralph made a better looking cgi sonic

Rabbid4240 · May 3, 2019

what's wrong with this?

i found this frame myself btw

the_randomizer · May 3, 2019

SexySpai said:
what's wrong with this?

i found this frame myself btw

Looks like he walked right in the middle of an orgy

extrablade · May 3, 2019

this was all planned...

How to increase your ticket sales:
1 - Create an ugly character and release a trailer with it so that all the news and everybody is talking about it.
2 - Say that you are going to fix it because you are "listening to your audience".
3 - Just show the movie with the "fixed design" which has been the original hidden one since the beginning.

#marketingTactics

Gon Freecss · May 3, 2019

Dr.Hacknik said:
Ahem

Just use this

Now they only need to hire they guy who did his voice in Shadow The Hedgehog.

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