PlayStation 4 lifetime sales reach 96.8 million, closing in on the Wii's massive 101.6 million sold

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When it comes to high-selling video game systems, what pops up in most people's minds are likely the PlayStation 2, the Nintendo DS, and of course, the Nintendo Wii. Now that the most recent financial results have been reported, we can see that Sony's PlayStation 4 is closing in on 100 million units sold, with the PS4 selling a grand total of 96.8 million since the system's launch in 2013. 17.8 mil PlayStation 4s were shipped throughout all of 2018, showing a slight decline in sales compared to last year as it reaches the end of its lifespan, while hype begins to build for the upcoming "PlayStation 5". As of April 2019, the PlayStation 4 is the sixth highest selling video game console of all time, sitting just below the Nintendo Wii's 101.6 million, and above its predecessor, the PlayStation 3, which reached 87.4 million. Sony's company analysts project that around 16 million more PS4s will be sold within 2019, and if that expectation is managed, then that'll put the PlayStation 4 above both the PS1 and the Wii, in terms of sales.

Do you expect the PlayStation 4 to surpass the Nintendo Wii's total sales? With such a successful console on their hands, Sony has a lot to live up to, as they plan for the future and their next home console.

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PS4 is a horrible portable console though
why portabilise the ps4 when you can remote play it??
the switch doesn't have enough battery life to use it outside of your house (exaggeration, I know, but it's still pretty bad), so using remote play inside your house is like the same thing.
 

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why portabilise the ps4 when you can remote play it??
the switch doesn't have enough battery life to use it outside of your house (exaggeration, I know, but it's still pretty bad), so using remote play inside your house is like the same thing.
Switch lasts for 2-3 hours with AAA titles and 5-6 with indies - unless you're on a really long bus/plane trip, it's unlikely that you'll play more than that on the go.

I don't even want to start on why Remote Play is a poor substitute for an actual handheld device - from extra costs, to input lag, to occasional artifacts/microfreezes/etc., to the fact that "always online" requirement kinda kills the purpose of on-the-go gaming in the first place.

I don't want to stir a debate - I just think that the whole "PS4 vs Switch" cock-measuring is kinda pointless since Switch is by default designed for a different kind of audience. I, for once, simply can't enjoy PS4 because it requires time investment of sitting my ass in front of TV for long periods of time, which is the kind of luxury I don't have. Where PS4 wins with third-party support, Switch wins with convenience and portabiliy, therefore they compete in completely different categories.
 
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Switch lasts for 2-3 hours with AAA titles and 5-6 with indies - unless you're on a really long bus/plane trip, it's unlikely that you'll play more than that on the go.

I don't even want to start on why Remote Play is a poor substitute for an actual handheld device - from extra costs, to input lag, to occasional artifacts/microfreezes/etc., to the fact that "always online" requirement kinda kills the purpose of on-the-go gaming in the first place.

I don't want to stir a debate - I just think that the whole "PS4 vs Switch" cock-measuring is kinda pointless since Switch is by default designed for a different kind of audience. I, for once, simply can't enjoy PS4 because it requires time investment of sitting my ass in front of TV for long periods of time, which is the kind of luxury I don't have. Where PS4 wins with third-party support, Switch wins with convenience and portabiliy, therefore they compete in completely different categories.
at last, someone that understands.
the ps4 and switch aim at different goals, that's right and all.

but I'm still disappointed because nintendo painted the picture in a different manner back in 2016/2017 when they announced and launched their new home console, that's right, the switch is a home console that you can take with you.
their goal was to blur the barrier between home console and portable... and they totally missed that goal. the switch can't do any of the tasks it was made to do right, it's an underpowered home console and a terrible portable.
now that they knew that they fucked up they completely dropped the whole home console concept and left the switch as a dedicated portable with the convenience of being able to connect it to the tv and even as a dedicated portable is not good, as you stated the switch last mere 3 hours while running AAA games (which is what most people want to be playing most of the time) and that is embarrassing.
that move (and the poor execution of the concept on top of the "betrayal" to the wii u users) left the image of nintendo on the ground in my eyes. they are not trying as hard as before and all that forced innovation is creating more problems that solutions and the users are the ones paying the price.

ain't gonna defend remote play in the outside, because is not as good as a dedicated device, but is good and convenient enough for what it is and the excuse of "b-but always online" is kinda ridiculous when most people have 100% internet availability anywhere anyway.
when connected to the same network remote play is as good as the wii u gamepad, so you can do the same trick of going to poop while playing that switch owners always brag about. so there is that at least.
 

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PS4 is a horrible portable console though
I didn't start the what is better childish debate-I couldnt giv a cows arse as I've said before I hav both machines-but as I've said before nintendo needs to up its game with next machine especially to make games with more realism like having dolby digital and having more triple AAA titles from third party and everybody knows this but as said I'm happy to just play nintendo first party games if thts what the machine only has to offer
 
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It's pretty amazing that the PS4 hasn't managed to outsell the Wii even now that it's nearing it's end of life. Not only is the overall industry much larger today than it was back in 2006 when the Wii came out, but the PS4 pretty much had no competition this generation with the Xbone being such a colossal failure.
Console market has shrinked in favour of mobile gaming market.
 

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100 million sales in a population of 25 million? Very odd. Something tells me the red line of death has some impact in sales figure.
 

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FINALLY, the only profitable division of $ony! Meanwhile anything else are still red on last fiscal year....
 
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Didn't know the PS4 had that much juice in it, and it does not seem to have much in the way of "is also a DVD player" thing going for it either.

Worse is I am still not sure what I will want one for in 10 years where every other console I have had at least had something to say for it.
 
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Didn't know the PS4 had that much juice in it, and it does not seem to have much in the way of "is also a DVD player" thing going for it either.

Worse is I am still not sure what I will want one for in 10 years where every other console I have had at least had something to say for it.
Go buy one today with the last of us and become one of us the ps4 gang:D
 

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Go buy one today with the last of us and become one of us the ps4 gang:D
My brother has a PS4 and I play that often enough, and have had a few games on it serve as mainstream and oddball titles given to me for review as well. However looking at the library, having also previously contemplated it in the past ( https://gbatemp.net/threads/the-games-you-will-keep-for-your-ps4-and-xbox-one.499105/ ), and looking at what I did I have nothing I will care to play in 10 years, or note as a new or notable development in a given genre/mechanic.

Last of us never did that much for me. It could be one of those rare games I have to sink something into to properly enjoy but it gave me no hints that it might be one of those.

Same for the xbone, same for the wii u and so far same for the Switch. Not sure why this is as I had a fantastic time on the 360 and previous devices, still do when I fish them out ( https://gbatemp.net/threads/so-i-got-my-gamecube-out-and-was-playing-it-lately.533900/ ) and most of the games are recognisable in those (not like a NES to 360 leap or anything). Guess it is just this generation.
 

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The Switch has maybe 2 or 3 exclusives I like better than anything on PS4 and the DS4 battery life sucks, but I'd still probably say PS4 is the best all around console I've ever owned in the past 30 years. Sure, I'm not really into it as much as I was during SNES through Dreamcast (pre-alcoholism) and I'd say games are generally less inspired today, but PS4 is solid and legit. I actually fucking despise Sony as a company too.
 

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Didn't know the PS4 had that much juice in it, and it does not seem to have much in the way of "is also a DVD player" thing going for it either.

Worse is I am still not sure what I will want one for in 10 years where every other console I have had at least had something to say for it.
It plays blurays though. Not it's fault bluray didn't take off well :P It's also a USB media player with the ability to play the sound through headphones via the controller. That to me is a big plus tbh. I use it to watch tv in bed late at night
 

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Console market has shrinked in favour of mobile gaming market.
False. Console gamers did not go from playing quality games on consoles to playing crappy mobile games on smart phones. Console gaming has shrunk in favour of pc gaming. Xbox did not sell well this generation because they had no exclusives, which meant instead of buying an Xbox people built/bought a pc. That's also why Sony won this generation, exclusives that can not be had else where. If Xbox has no exclusives next gen it will do just as bad as it did this gen. If PlayStation had no exclusives next gen, it too would to just as bad as Xbox did this gen. Why buy a console that has no exclusives and will only be supported for 5 years, when you can build a pc that'll be powerful enough to compete with 2 generations of consoles?
 

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It plays blurays though. Not it's fault bluray didn't take off well :P It's also a USB media player with the ability to play the sound through headphones via the controller. That to me is a big plus tbh. I use it to watch tv in bed late at night
That is not really where I was heading.

The PS2 was bought in fairly large numbers (and ultimately killed the dreamcast for many) because it played DVDs, and did so either cheaper or better than most alternatives at the time. That would explain a large amount of PS2s out there in the world, and the wii was a wii sports machine for many. The PS3 also had a minor bump for being a cheap blu ray player (indeed it might be one of the few early ones to have got all the firmware updates and whatever else) but as you say the format was not embraced as fully as DVD was before it, and people tell me streaming is where it is at nowadays, so that is a lesser bump. Not to mention today I can buy from from LG in town in 30 minutes time for £55.00.
I have no idea what the PS4 offers in that regard (could be streaming services but its offerings are not up to much compared to other things people can do for much less). The hardware failure rates and likely upgrade rates would also not explain much here.

As mentioned I don't have much idea what it offers as far as games compared to older systems -- sports games are floundering somewhat, cod and battlefield are not doing much, we have not got this generation's final fantasy 7 equivalent. While the xbone lost ground compared to the 360 where it was riding high throughout it it is not so much that it is an also ran that the PS4 took over its user base, and the PC has similarly not fallen off a cliff of anything. I don't know that it is much of a Wii60 a like setup going on (many once advocated a Wii and a 360 to get a nice rounded experience, this while the PS3 was floundering during those early years) with people owning a PS4 and xbone -- I guess the PS4 actually has a few exclusives (sad day really when it looked like exclusives were dropping in number on older devices ( https://gbatemp.net/threads/ps3-and-360-exclusives-a-discussion.360416/ )
This means there are either a lot more gamers* after a fairly mediocre experience (if they lack the frame of reference for a good generation, or it was so long/gradual that they all forgot was quality was like then maybe) or there was some non gamer draw factor that I missed out on, or that its mediocre streaming facilities are still enough of a draw for people (I am not seeing it in any of the tech rags doing set up a media centre on the cheap or lifestyle magazines so I doubt it). Game sales don't seem to be doing all that much, and the library is not so broad that you have radically different tribes (not like you have a DS a like setup with a few million traditional "gamers" and a few million housewives doing colour matching hidden object games that never meet and never speak).

*largely from the same markets too -- sure South Korea, Thailand, central and south America, maybe some of the middle east and Africa, and parts of Eastern Europe are on the up but surely not to this degree. It could be the little brother effect -- I meet enough families on limited incomes that still manage to stump up for each kid to have their own tablet before they hit double digits. Maybe more of those got a PS4 each where before it was more of a family machine setup.


The Switch has maybe 2 or 3 exclusives I like better than anything on PS4 and the DS4 battery life sucks, but I'd still probably say PS4 is the best all around console I've ever owned in the past 30 years.

I would make that claim for the 360 and if you actually liked the PS3 controller I could see making the claim for it as well as the libraries were so similar in the end (see link above for my discussion of that one). With the possible exception of the side scrolling beat em ups being a bit mediocre compared to the height of the 16 bit era I reckon they were some of the most well rounded consoles I have ever played.
Can not even get close for the PS4 (though the controller is better than the PS3 claw maker).
I don't know if it is just me being a super fan of somewhat experimental European games and local co-op, neither of which seem to still exist, but I am nowhere near being able to make that claim for the PS4.
 

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