Proposed rewriting of social norms to prevent mis-gendering people

Deleted User · Apr 14, 2019

Just because someone has boobs and a vagina and a feminine appearance is doesn't mean she's a woman. For all you know, the person you're talking to might have a Y chromosomes. Likewise, that chiseled "man" with a penis might have two X chromosomes.

Misgendering a transwoman as a woman and a transman as a man hurts the fragile feelings of Ben Shaprio followers and they can become very distressed when you use pronouns based on a person's appearance instead of taking a DNA test of the person to find out a couple of invisible letters, which don't modify a person's sexual characteristics, to determine which pronouns to use.

In order to combat the pandemic crisis of mis-gendering people and triggering Ben Shaprio followers, I propose we completely change the way society does things by completely abandoning physical observation in favor forcing everyone to take a DNA test and sharing the information with every new person you meet.
This way everyone can use your correct pronouns and avoid accidentally referring to XY people with female hormones and bodies as she and XX people with male hormones and bodies as he, so Ben can live a happy and peaceful life.

Checkmate physiologists.

DeadlyFoez · Apr 14, 2019

Is this bait? This really sounds like what someone that wants to start a problem would say.

nero99 · Apr 14, 2019

If you have a dick, you're a guy. If you have a vag, you're a woman. People need to learn that there are only two genders. None of the made up ones count. So until you get your man hood removed and your lady parts removed, you're still the same gender you started as.

Deleted User · Apr 14, 2019

DeadlyFoez said:
Is this bait? This really sounds like what someone that wants to start a problem would say.

It's satire of some of the stupidest things I've seen from both "pro" and anti trans stances.

A conversation shouldn't start with "what's your pronouns?" or "what's your chromosomes?", that's absolutely ludicrous. Just use common sense and try to make the best observation you can and if you do misgender someone, just be respectful when they correct you.

Xzi · Apr 14, 2019

DeadlyFoez said:
Is this bait?

Ooh...definitely bait-y, but kind of satire bordering on the edge of bait...yeah I'm not touching this one. Mods will decide what to do or not to do.

Kioku · Apr 14, 2019

Xzi said:
Ooh...definitely bait-y, but kind of satire bordering on the edge of bait...yeah I'm not touching this one. Mods will decide what to do or not to do.

It's EOF at best...

Xzi · Apr 14, 2019

Memoir said:
It's EOF at best...

I somewhat agree, but my mod powers are rather limited anyway and as a contributor I'm meant to avoid using them as much as possible. Feel free to report it with that same complaint, though.

CORE · Apr 14, 2019

nero99 said:
If you have a dick, you're a guy. If you have a vag, you're a woman.

Not exactly some have both and I in all honesty dont know there?

Kioku · Apr 14, 2019

Xzi said:
I somewhat agree, but my mod powers are rather limited anyway and as a contributor I'm meant to avoid using them as much as possible. Feel free to report it with that same complaint, though.

Way ahead of you.

WeedZ · Apr 14, 2019

We're done for today, find something to do.

Deleted User · Apr 14, 2019

Just want to apologize as this was accidentally posted in the wrong forum. As @Memoir pointed out, it's EoF at best and that's where I had meant to write this post for.

I'm sorry to anyone who thought I was trying to inflame. My intention with this was lighthearted satire.

If people are still offended/stirred even after the correction, then I don't mind if the mods close it again, as that isn't my intention.

Mollycule · Apr 14, 2019

Lol there are layers guys, like onions.

There are only 2, non genetically mutated genders, and there are deviations, just like how when the SHH gene is inhibited in the womb, the child isn't going to come out correctly.

Then there is gender identity which is not always correlated with the primary 2 unmutated physical genders or chromosomes, and we don't understand nearly 10% of what consciousness is, so to say that feeling such a way is just an error brought about by being a product of one's environment or chromosomes is narrow minded and unfounded.

The spirit by my experience is genderless, and to see beyond the veil of the collective hallucination stresses this in ways words cannot describe, yet bears the significance of the purpose we have been given biologically to reproduce and give more spirits vessels to roam this existence.

x65943 · Apr 14, 2019

Elemi said:
Lol there are layers guys, like onions.

There are only 2, non genetically mutated genders, and there are deviations, just like how when the SHH gene is inhibited in the womb, the child isn't going to come out correctly.

Then there is gender identity which is not always correlated with the primary 2 unmutated physical genders or chromosomes, and we don't understand nearly 10% of what consciousness is, so to say that feeling such a way is just an error brought about by being a product of one's environment or chromosomes is narrow minded and unfounded.

The spirit by my experience is genderless, and to see beyond the veil of the collective hallucination stresses this in ways words cannot describe, yet bears the significance of the purpose we have been given biologically to reproduce and give more spirits vessels to roam this existence.

So it sounds like you are saying there is no gender

Since a "spirit" is genderless, or am I misunderstanding?

Mollycule · Apr 14, 2019

x65943 said:
So it sounds like you are saying there is no gender

Since a "spirit" is genderless, or am I misunderstanding?

Gender == Meatsuit config.
Gender identity == Mental construct.

There are 2 genders, but the spirit beyond is unbound by any of our preconceived constructs.

Think about those fucking fish which are born female but become male during the second half of their lives, lol.

x65943 · Apr 14, 2019

Elemi said:
Gender == Meatsuit config.
Gender identity == Mental construct.

There are 2 genders, but the spirit beyond is unbound by any of our preconceived constructs.

Think about those fucking fish which are born female but become male during the second half of their lives, lol.

I think it's a bit odd to talk about "spirits" because they are not scientific and don't have much to do with the topic

fixingmytoys · Apr 14, 2019

DNA . THE WORLD IS FUCKED.
I think it is all the shit in our food which makes it last a long time in the supermarket
Person goes to s doctor says they are a woman tells doctor that “she” has a medical problem gets meds that to fix said problem, meds that are made to work with female DNA has a problem with meds because “her” DNA from birth is Male, watch out for the lawsuits, because doctors have to take you at face value ie what you identify as not what you are born as. The world is truly fucked

Mollycule · Apr 14, 2019

x65943 said:
I think it's a bit odd to talk about "spirits" because they are not scientific and don't have much to do with the topic

DMT is more than just a drug, it's a glimpse of the eternal and chaotic nature of post reality existence.

We are so lucky to be given an existence so seemingly solid, like an island in the middle of a sea of unrest.

But I understand that it should not probably be discussed here.

I will say that I no longer fear death and no longer feel anxiety.

x65943 · Apr 14, 2019

Elemi said:
DMT is more than just a drug, it's a glimpse of the eternal and chaotic nature of post reality existence.

We are so lucky to be given an existence so seemingly solid, like an island in the middle of a sea of unrest.

But I understand that it should not probably be discussed here.

I will say that I no longer fear death and no longer feel anxiety.

Discuss whatever you want this is EOF

But I just mean if you want to convince people it's not a good idea to use spirits and other non-scientific stuff

Because anyone can say anything they want about spirits, and as there is no proof to back up anyone either way - it devolves pretty quickly

Mollycule · Apr 14, 2019

x65943 said:
Discuss whatever you want this is EOF

But I just mean if you want to convince people it's not a good idea to use spirits and other non-scientific stuff

Because anyone can say anything they want about spirits, and as there is no proof to back up anyone either way - it devolves pretty quickly

I agree, and I know that my experience and 'knowledge' by this point is purely subjective when it comes to any basis in the 'real world' to do with the spirit.

My experience with gender, strong psychedelics and alternative lifestyle have put me in a really happy and worry free state of mind that I can only really discuss with those who are there too.

But when I see threads like this I just want to be that person who can say that there might be basis beyond the usual 'product of environment' argument.

I am not religious, I have not been brought up an atheist, or this or that, just a person who asks too many questions.

I think that because of human history and this fascination with the spirit it would be ignorant to sweep it aside for a few centuries of science.

I don't want to convince anyone but inspire them to maybe think outside the box a bit more!

Veho · Apr 14, 2019

I propose a law that would abolish all personal pronouns and gender-specific terms in favour of the non-specific, gender-neutral "asshole". Make it the mandatory term of address for all sexes, genders, declarations, and combinations thereof. Everyone has an asshole, everyone should be referred to as one.

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