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You may have come in here to flame but too bad, this is not what you think
I will be detailing my progress with playing on sysnand on Nintendo Online. Yes, I can afford to get banned. So dont even mention it.

So here's my setup:

SX OS
Emunand with a bunch of NSPs installed
Sysnand booted into only with OFW mode (not CFW) and playing legit cart version of Smash online

What we need to find out?
We need to find out if playing on Sysnand with the above set up will get us banned

I will keep you guys updated. But, I have been online for 24 hours and I haven't been banned yet

If you have any questions please ask.
Are you using emuNAND on SD as files, hidden partition, or in internal NAND? I don't think it matters as far as bans go, at least as long as it's on SD it shouldn't be detected by Nintendo until (and if) they decide to add checks to a firmware update.
 

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Just chiming in on my experience, since I was too was wondering this a while ago and there wasn't any info about this setup, only snippets of info here and there which I didn't get my answer.
Yes this is all obvious for most, but for others that might just getting on board the EmuNAND train, it might not be so obvious.
For those who are on the fence of getting a hackable Switch or who already has one and would like to use EmuNAND.

For me, when EmuNAND was an option to be stored on the SD CARD (Before EmuNAND had an options to be as a hidden partition):

- Factory reset OFW to start on a clean slate.
- When the Switch shuts down, I boot into SXOS boot loader and made a EmuNAND on SD CARD (also applies to hidden partition EmuNAND).
- Booted into OFW and setup the Switch as per normal until I got to the home menu.
- Booted into EmuNAND and setup the Switch as per normal until I got to the home menu.
- In EmuNAND, enabled FLIGHT mode and turned Controller Connection (Bluetooth) and NFC to ON.
- Changed the Themes to Basic Black, so OFW is on Basic White and EmuNAND on Basic Black, I do this so I know if I'm on OFW or EmuNAND, very handy.
- Then continue to setup/customise both the OFW and EmuNAND.

Now you have:
OFW: Use this for online stuff, games, eshop, etc...
EmuNAND: This is where you do ALL your dirty stuff offline, stay off grid.

Since I only got the Switch recently and since the EmuNAND on SD CARD is kind of new (not talking about Hidden Partition EmuNAND here), I have been online in OFW to grab YouTube and Fortnite, booting up legit Splatoons 2 cart and doing online game update and installing eShop demos. Have not been banned yet, touch wood, but I might have a high chance of not being banned, since, as for as the Switch and Nintendo servers are concerned, it doesn't know anything about EmuNAND.

For those that don't know, when you create a EmuNAND as a Hidden Partition, that 30gb or so of space allocated on the SD CARD, this is not wasted space, this is your EmuNAND, feel free to install games/game updates to this NAND, as this is NOT your OFW NAND, but your EmuNAND, they are separate to your SYSTEM NAND.

I found that my 125GB card will filling quickly so I got myself a 400GB card, since I've already made the jump to the hidden partition EmuNAND, there was no easy way to migrate the hidden partition to the new card, there is a way of using the dd app, there is a post on GBATemp about it and how to do it.
Since I didn't want to factory reset my OFW and go through the above again, this time around I just setup EnuNAND as a hidden partition again, for those that don't know, yes it does make a CLONE of your OFW, so MAKE SURE you enable FLIGHT mode because when creating a EmuNAND, so you don't want to accidentally go online when you boot into EmuNAND.
When you boot into your EmuNAND, just do a factory reset within EmuNAND and your good to go, you'll have a fresh EmuNAND to start over.
This is good for that that don't want to do a factory reset of their OFW.

Hope this little info will help others.

Added Notes:
Just to add, before I did any of this, my OFW has been legit, meaning I never used CFW, never launched any homebrew stuff or installed NSP's, etc... So if you have messed around with your OFW and also went online with CFW, etc.. then you may have already been flagged for ban at some point so use at own risk. Again, if you have a clean system, then you may/might/could have a higher chance of not being banned.
 
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You may have come in here to flame but too bad, this is not what you think
I will be detailing my progress with playing on sysnand on Nintendo Online. Yes, I can afford to get banned. So dont even mention it.

So here's my setup:

SX OS
Emunand with a bunch of NSPs installed
Sysnand booted into only with OFW mode (not CFW) and playing legit cart version of Smash online

What we need to find out?
We need to find out if playing on Sysnand with the above set up will get us banned

I will keep you guys updated. But, I have been online for 24 hours and I haven't been banned yet

If you have any questions please ask.

Do you get ban yet?
 

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You may have come in here to flame but too bad, this is not what you think
I will be detailing my progress with playing on sysnand on Nintendo Online. Yes, I can afford to get banned. So dont even mention it.

So here's my setup:

SX OS
Emunand with a bunch of NSPs installed
Sysnand booted into only with OFW mode (not CFW) and playing legit cart version of Smash online

What we need to find out?
We need to find out if playing on Sysnand with the above set up will get us banned

I will keep you guys updated. But, I have been online for 24 hours and I haven't been banned yet

If you have any questions please ask.
You should have always clean nand backup for sysnand if you wanna for example backup saves or etc. And you have probably 0 chances for ban using emunand for homebrew. But I heared some rumors about that Nintendo probably is able to know if you're using AutoRCM...
 

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I have been doing this since Smash release. I got the leaked version, installed EmuNAND (SD EmuNAND) for it, played like crazy and then got my physical copy.

I play online no problem, check eshop and sometimes youtube.

I hope you get the same result, as of now EmuNAND is really good to avoid bans.
So your says u have sx os u go on the emunand and u go online like u have to turn off stealth mode then go online and it works ok because I don’t have online unless I turn that off
 

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I’m shore nity will/have implemented a emmc check for auto rcm as well as other checks..
Keep your system nand clean, no auto rcm, no home brew etc.... Anything!! this was the reason emunand was made, if using a second SD card and stick to the rules you should not get a ban!!
 

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Tbh, what you are trying to prove is exactly what everyone using Emunand has already doing for months. That's the whole point of it, isn't it?
If you have an absolutely clean Sysnand, and only do CFW on Emunand while never going online even once, then the chance of getting banned is highly unlikely.
I honestly think this did not need a new thread, and is just attention whoring.
 
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I’m shore nity will/have implemented a emmc check for auto rcm as well as other checks..
Keep your system nand clean, no auto rcm, no home brew etc.... Anything!! this was the reason emunand was made, if using a second SD card and stick to the rules you should not get a ban!!
Tru I have auto rcm on the emunand but I can disable it delete homebrew nsp and I should be set on the emunand to play online I just gotta turn stealth mode off right
 

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Tru I have auto rcm on the emunand but I can disable it delete homebrew nsp and I should be set on the emunand to play online I just gotta turn stealth mode off right
You should never play online on Emunand, and on Sysnand (without cfw) there is no such thing as a stealth mode, because you're not running SX os
 

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